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He doesn't like to be called names. he's smarter than you, knows more about the redskins than you, knows more about our opponents than you, and has that "dean gene" that he's never wrong and everyone else is.

Yup. I also love how when you prove him wrong using his own beloved stats, he just changes the narrative. Sound familiar? My guess is the Steelers board ran him out of there and he is looking for a place to land.

If you wanna talk about me, at least have the balls to tag me so I can respond.
 

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If you wanna talk about me, at least have the balls to tag me so I can respond.
OK. I'm talking about you. My balls big enough for you now?
 

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Nope. Too late to grow your balls now.
oh, wow. That's disconcerting. Is it just my balls you have interest in or just balls in general?
 

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If you wanna talk about me, at least have the balls to tag me so I can respond.

Uh oh I've pissed off "Internet tough guy" I see you've made lots and lots of friends here. I'll tag you if I feel like it dickhead.
 

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Uh oh I've pissed off "Internet tough guy" I see you've made lots and lots of friends here. I'll tag you if I feel like it dickhead.

You took too long to answer. I'm already over it.
 

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Just because you don't agree, doesn't make you right.

Let's play this your way. We go for a first down and fail to get it, then kick a FG, leaving them about a minute to get into field position for a game winning FG, which they would have gotten anyways. Only difference is we don't have a chance to win.

We have a better chance to get a TD when the other team isn't expecting a play.




It isn't a blunder. If you burn time without the points, you limit yourself. If you are burning time without a lead, you are playing for a tie.

Stopping the clock after the Ct run only gave the Chiefs more time to win. Gruden did not think about failing on third down. He went for the TD without considering the consequences. Even if we fail to get the first down the clock stil burns 30 seconds if we didnt take the TO after the Ct run. Gruden put all his eggs in one basket. It was a risk. A first down gives us plenty of time for a TD or Fg and it gives no time to the Chiefs to win the game. Less risk and more reward that way
 

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If you wanna talk about me, at least have the balls to tag me so I can respond.

LOL - This coming from Mr "Lighten Up - It is all in fun" What's the matter Skippy - did someone hit a nerve?

You are rapidly becoming the court jester for this forum. Feel free to tag my post anyhow that you like & call me any name in the book. BTW - I am laughing about this now & won't be offended by anything that you say about me since you are a complete joke in my book (feel free to find some stats that will help clarify this).

HTTR
 

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Stopping the clock after the Ct run only gave the Chiefs more time to win. Gruden did not think about failing on third down. He went for the TD without considering the consequences. Even if we fail to get the first down the clock stil burns 30 seconds if we didnt take the TO after the Ct run. Gruden put all his eggs in one basket. It was a risk. A first down gives us plenty of time for a TD or Fg and it gives no time to the Chiefs to win the game. Less risk and more reward that way

Again you are looking at this the following day from the comfort of your living room with all of the time that you need to second guess things. Try doing it in front of 70k+ fans in a hostile environment when you can hardly hear yourself think & when you literally have seconds to make decisions.

What is your endgame here? Are you suggesting that Gruden is not a good coach & perhaps should be on the hot seat? I hope not because that would be ridiculous.
 

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Again you are looking at this the following day from the comfort of your living room with all of the time that you need to second guess things. Try doing it in front of 70k+ fans in a hostile environment when you can hardly hear yourself think & when you literally have seconds to make decisions.

What is your endgame here? Are you suggesting that Gruden is not a good coach & perhaps should be on the hot seat? I hope not because that would be ridiculous.

Are you serious? Coaches get paid millions of dollars to make these decisions. My end game is Gruden should be called out on it. Why give him a free pass?
 

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Stopping the clock after the Ct run only gave the Chiefs more time to win. Gruden did not think about failing on third down. He went for the TD without considering the consequences. Even if we fail to get the first down the clock stil burns 30 seconds if we didnt take the TO after the Ct run. Gruden put all his eggs in one basket. It was a risk. A first down gives us plenty of time for a TD or Fg and it gives no time to the Chiefs to win the game. Less risk and more reward that way

He called the time out and then decided to go for the kill shot. There is merit for burning clock and there is merit for calling a timeout. If you can't see that, then you simply want to hate.

As for more risk, here are your options...

1- go for the homerun and fail kicking FG.

2- go for the homerun and succeed likely winning the game.

3- go for the first down and fail, kicking a FG. Same result as failing on a homerun.

4- go for the first down and make it. This gives you no greater shot at a TD but does increase the possibility of fumbles, interceptions, and penalties knocking you out of FG range.

You see, there is risk in each way. See, you are worries about losing in regulation...the rest of us just don't want to lose. Losing is losing, no matter when it happens.
 

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He called the time out and then decided to go for the kill shot. There is merit for burning clock and there is merit for calling a timeout. If you can't see that, then you simply want to hate.

As for more risk, here are your options...

1- go for the homerun and fail kicking FG.

2- go for the homerun and succeed likely winning the game.

3- go for the first down and fail, kicking a FG. Same result as failing on a homerun.

4- go for the first down and make it. This gives you no greater shot at a TD but does increase the possibility of fumbles, interceptions, and penalties knocking you out of FG range.

You see, there is risk in each way. See, you are worries about losing in regulation...the rest of us just don't want to lose. Losing is losing, no matter when it happens.

You are not factoring in the TO after CT's run in options 1,3,4. If we get the first down how does not increase the chance of getting a TD? Losing is not losing. There are always reasons why you lost. Clock mgt matters. You are totally dismissing it.
 

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He called the time out and then decided to go for the kill shot. There is merit for burning clock and there is merit for calling a timeout. If you can't see that, then you simply want to hate.

As for more risk, here are your options...

1- go for the homerun and fail kicking FG.

2- go for the homerun and succeed likely winning the game.

3- go for the first down and fail, kicking a FG. Same result as failing on a homerun.

4- go for the first down and make it. This gives you no greater shot at a TD but does increase the possibility of fumbles, interceptions, and penalties knocking you out of FG range.

You see, there is risk in each way. See, you are worries about losing in regulation...the rest of us just don't want to lose. Losing is losing, no matter when it happens.


I got this from a tandler poster.

The Skins played a tough and gritty game against a very good team on the road. It was their best performance on Monday night since 2014. At WORST, they should have gone to OT . Gruden, again, mismanaged the clock at the end of the game. Looked like he panicked and called that timeout before the 3rd and 2 play. Should have let another 20 seconds run off before calling it. Honestly, Reid should have called it, but he's historically terrible at clock management. I don't mind taking the shot in the end zone, be it Doctson or the hitch-and-go to Reed. But the Chiefs should not have had more than 20-25 seconds at the end, not 50 seconds. 35 seconds from their 20 with 2 timeouts would have given the Skins at least 4 plays, if not 5...tough to watch the repeated clock mismanagement.
 

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That's fine if you want to hold Cousins responsible for the loss as long as you hold every QB in the league for every loss, including Brady and Rogers. Because based on your reasoning, it is always the QB's fault. Cousins showed growth and maturity last night, particularly on that last drive, where on 3 separate occasions he made plays out of nothing. Without his "off schedule" playmaking, we would not have even scored on that last drive. I hope you can atleast recognize that he did things last night that many of you have said he couldn't (not you specifically as I don't remember your specific beef with him).
Sometime JY you guys can be ridiculous with your counter comments. I'm not here to beat up Cousins and my comments clearly praised Cousins in the paragraph multiple times. Therefore, I did NOT hold Cousins clearly responsible for this loss. Based on my reasoning, I hold everyone on offense responsible, including Cousins, the coach calling plays etc. Cousins did show some moxy picking up several first downs running the ball. The old adage in coaching, "If no one is open, then you are open", hence take off and run. As for any beef, apparently you don't really pay attention to post, you just attack them with vigor to get a rise out of some posters. I wish Cousins was already signed, sealed and delivered as our QB for the foreseeable future. However, that's not the case. Do I blame anyone for that? Yes, all involved so there you have it.

HTTR!
 

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Are you serious? Coaches get paid millions of dollars to make these decisions. My end game is Gruden should be called out on it. Why give him a free pass?

You are being ridiculous. First of all - you go for the TD & you don't get bogged down in everything else. If Doctson made the catch would you still be bitching? Secondly - so what how much someone gets paid - it is still a tough job & decisions made in those situations are much different than the ones you might make sitting on your ass the following day reviewing the play.

You are probably one of these guys who is delusional enough to believe that you could do a better job than Gruden. Keep dreaming pal & be all means keep pointing out everything that is wrong with this team. If you had your way McCoy would be running this team right now.
 

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You are not factoring in the TO after CT's run in options 1,3,4. If we get the first down how does not increase the chance of getting a TD? Losing is not losing. There are always reasons why you lost. Clock mgt matters. You are totally dismissing it.

It doesn't increase our chances because of the limited time available and we lose the element of surprise. I am absolutely factoring in time remaining. Had we not taken the timeout and done it your way, we were down to 40 seconds, and barely made the first with the clock still running.
 

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I got this from a tandler poster.

The Skins played a tough and gritty game against a very good team on the road. It was their best performance on Monday night since 2014. At WORST, they should have gone to OT . Gruden, again, mismanaged the clock at the end of the game. Looked like he panicked and called that timeout before the 3rd and 2 play. Should have let another 20 seconds run off before calling it. Honestly, Reid should have called it, but he's historically terrible at clock management. I don't mind taking the shot in the end zone, be it Doctson or the hitch-and-go to Reed. But the Chiefs should not have had more than 20-25 seconds at the end, not 50 seconds. 35 seconds from their 20 with 2 timeouts would have given the Skins at least 4 plays, if not 5...tough to watch the repeated clock mismanagement.

Just because he claims it is a mismanaged clock in hindsight, doesn't make it so.
 

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You are being ridiculous. First of all - you go for the TD & you don't get bogged down in everything else. If Doctson made the catch would you still be bitching? Secondly - so what how much someone gets paid - it is still a tough job & decisions made in those situations are much different than the ones you might make sitting on your ass the following day reviewing the play.

You are probably one of these guys who is delusional enough to believe that you could do a better job than Gruden. Keep dreaming pal & be all means keep pointing out everything that is wrong with this team. If you had your way McCoy would be running this team right now.

dont even comment to me you don't understand clock mgt.
 
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