Game Thread: CFP SEMIFINAL: Clemson (13-0) vs Ohio State (13-0) 8pm ET ESPN

[WizardHawk]

He didn't launch.

I get that you are going to try to argue or twist every possible thing that goes against your team today, but trying to get technical in choice of words while entirely ignoring the point doesn't shock me coming from you in the least.

Your defender lowered his head while going into that tackle and was leading with his helmet. They teach not to do that on at least the team I follow, if not every modern college football program. It was bad technique and was a preventable situation accordingly.

Stop blaming the wrong thing.

OSU didn't have to have a WR turn the wrong way and throw the game ending pick directly at a defender. The refs had nothing to do with how that game ended.

 

[Across The Field]

According to the rules, it would have been targeting. The official was pretty clear in the postgame comments why the foul was called:

"Referee Kevin Williamson stood behind the call, telling a pool reporter, "This was a crown-of-the-helmet targeting foul. Initial contact was with the crown of the helmet. Then he wrapped up for the tackle. So at that point, targeting was properly called."

Helmet to helmet is not mentioned.

So, again, you believe that if Wade's helmet went into Lawrence's mid-section, they would've called targeting? You've gotta be kidding. That happens on 90% of tackles.

 

[Across The Field]

I have provided the quotes from the official disproving this.

Show me a targeting call ever made where a player's helmet hit another players mid-section and targeting was called.

 

[osubuckeye89]

I was honestly shocked to see him back after one play and that no one on the broadcast team even brought it up. I would be asking about that as OSU staff. He looked bewildered on the ground. Closeup cameras made that clear. If you want to have rules to protect these kids they must be enforced or teams should suffer for bypassing it.

Yep. If you’re gonna play “by the rules” play by the rules on all fronts.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

So, again, you believe that if Wade's helmet went into Lawrence's mid-section, they would've called targeting? You've gotta be kidding. That happens on 90% of tackles.

Whether it would be called or not is difficult to say...it would have been targeting according to the rules.

 

[Across The Field]

I get that you are going to try to argue or twist every possible thing that goes against your team today, but trying to get technical in choice of words while entirely ignoring the point doesn't shock me coming from you in the least.

Your defender lowered his head while going into that tackle and was leading with his helmet. They teach not to do that on at least the team I follow, if not every modern college football program. It was bad technique and was a preventable situation accordingly.

Stop blaming the wrong thing.

OSU didn't have to have a WR turn the wrong way and throw the game ending pick directly at a defender. The refs had nothing to do with how that game ended.

Dude - every time a player goes into the tackle, the head gets lowered to a degree. Again, it's human anatomy. Try and run full speed and tackle someone in the mid-section and not have your helmet make some level of contact.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Show me a targeting call ever made where a player's helmet hit another players mid-section and targeting was called.

Helmet to helmet is not mentioned in the ref's postgame comments. Try again. It was all about "leading with the crown".

 

[Across The Field]

Whether it would be called or not is difficult to say...it would have been targeting according to the rules.

So you don't believe it would've been called then. Got it.

 

[Bayou Tiger]

Again...the fact that Trevor was hit in the head isn't what made this a penalty.

The tackler leading with the crown of the helmet is what drew the penalty. Hitting the body mass with the crown of the helmet is ALSO targeting.

And again...


What pray tell could the defender do to avoid Trevor ducking at the last minute, causing the helmets to collide?


When he launched, his trajectory would have taken him to Trevor's side. At the last second, after the defender spreads his arms and launches to tackle him, Trevor ducks. That is why the helmets collided.

 

[Across The Field]

Helmet to helmet is not mentioned in the ref's postgame comments. Try again. It was all about "leading with the crown".

Show me a targeting call ever made where a player's helmet hit another players mid-section and targeting was called.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

So you don't believe it would've been called then. Got it.

Never said that. I can't say definitively what someone else would do in an alternate timeline you imagined.

 

[Across The Field]

And again...


What pray tell could the defender do to avoid Trevor ducking at the last minute, causing the helmets to collide?


When he launched, his trajectory would have taken him to Trevor's side. At the last second, after the defender spreads his arms and launches to tackle him, Trevor ducks. That is why the helmets collided.

There's literally nothing Wade could've done outside of detaching his head and reattaching it at his knees that would've resulted in no level of helmet-to-body contact. It happens on basically every tackle to the mid-section. Anyone who has ever played football and tackled someone knows this.

 

[Across The Field]

Never said that. I can't say definitively what someone else would do in an alternate timeline you imagined.

So, again - Show me a targeting call ever made where a player's helmet hit another players mid-section and targeting was called.

 

[osubuckeye89]

Show me a targeting call ever made where a player's helmet hit another players mid-section and targeting was called.

Lol Joey Bosa fiesta bowl vs Notre Dame

 

[cwerph]

So, again - Show me a targeting call ever made where a player's helmet hit another players mid-section and targeting was called.

He's a troll. He will do this to you all day.

 

[WizardHawk]

Dude - every time a player goes into the tackle, the head gets lowered to a degree. Again, it's human anatomy. Try and run full speed and tackle someone in the mid-section and not have your helmet make some level of contact.

Dude - they are now taught to lower that head AND FUCKING MOVE IT TO THE SIDE to go into a tackle with their shoulder.

You are just looking like a pissed off homer to argue against this.

You can hate the rule, but this was called correctly under it. And it was preventable by using better technique.

 

[dtgold88]

A ref with no agenda agrees with what is really not debatable. So go ahead and debate...will it be irrelevant GIF/MEMEs or the "I cannot refute what you said" facepalm?

 

[cwerph]

Lol Joey Bosa fiesta bowl vs Notre Dame

There is one.

 

[Across The Field]

Dude - they are now taught to lower that head AND FUCKING MOVE IT TO THE SIDE to go into a tackle with their shoulder.

You are just looking like a pissed off homer to argue against this.

You can hate the rule, but this was called correctly under it. And it was preventable by using better technique.

So look at this -

The Clemson defender's helmet is ahead of his shoulders when making this tackle. Is this targeting? Of course not.

 

[dtgold88]

Here, dipshit. This is coming from a veteran referee who's job it is to break down rules for NBC. He's smarter than you, needless to say.

a ref with no agenda knows more than a troll with an agenda?