Celtics Off-Season - the Quest for AD

[Gman]

There are rumors that he did everything but light the building on fire during his exit interview

I really hope the Knicks toss 12+ million per year at him.

 

[The Q]

I really hope the Knicks toss 12+ million per year at him.

I've already talked myself into renouncing everyone but the Berlin Wall and signing Russell.

Cause I don't see any other big time FA who might come here.

Might as well get one who could be worth a "mini-max" deal who could play either backcourt spot and is young enough to grow with the kids.

 

[Shanemansj13]

1.) Rozier was lousy on the court last season.

2.) There were rumblings that he was dissatisfied during the season.

3.) At the conclusion of the season, he ran to the media and proceeded to whine. He threw shade on both Kyrie and the Celtics coaching staff.

^ All of that together really pisses me off. If you're gonna be mouthy, you better be good.

And oh, btw, of course you lost "your role" to Kyrie. He's Kyrie Irving, you're Terry Rozier.

Terry could have made the best of the situation, but instead he took a lot of bad shots and was a drag on the 2nd unit.

Trade up to #4 and get Garland. I mean if ATL offers the #8 and 10 than no way Boston can beat it but if they don't sign Rozier they need a PG.

 

[The Q]

Trade up to #4 and get Garland. I mean if ATL offers the #8 and 10 than no way Boston can beat it but if they don't sign Rozier they need a PG.

The question is a PG for what.

Do you think they're still contenders?

Should they punt the season?

go piece meal so they can draft #17 next year?


Idk what the right answer is, but this draft has all the value in the front court where the C's are pick (based on projected mocks).

Garland is major boom/bust prospect. But I just don't see them beating that ATL offer so I find the point moot anyway.

 

[Gman]

Heading into FA, here is a quick look at the current Celtics depth chart.

I'm naturally assuming that both Kyrie and Horford are gone-zo.

Players that may or may not return are highlighted in red.

PG - Terry Rozier, Marcus Smart, Brad Wanamaker, Carsen Edwards, PJ Dozier, Tremont Waters

SG - Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, PJ Dozier, Romeo Langford, RJ Hunter

SF - Gordon Hayward, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Semi Ojeleye, Romeo Langford, Grant Williams

PF - Jayson Tatum, Marcus Morris, Daniel Theis, Semi Ojeleye, Grant Williams

C - Robert Williams III, Daniel Theis, Guerschon Yabusele, Semi Ojeleye

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There are big questions to answer at all of PG, PF, and C.

The C's are loaded with bodies at the wing positions... and this help answer some concerns in other areas, because in today's NBA you can trot out 3 or 4 or sometimes even 5 wings and still have a playable line-up.

Still... a whole lot up in the air. And perhaps most notably: not a single NBA big man with quality, proven experience is currently locked down. Tatum isn't a real big, he's more our PF by default.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Heading into FA, here is a quick look at the current Celtics depth chart.

I'm naturally assuming that both Kyrie and Horford are gone-zo.

Players that may or may not return are highlighted in red.

PG - Terry Rozier, Marcus Smart, Brad Wanamaker, Carsen Edwards, PJ Dozier, Tremont Waters

SG - Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, PJ Dozier, Romeo Langford, RJ Hunter

SF - Gordon Hayward, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Semi Ojeleye, Romeo Langford, Grant Williams

PF - Jayson Tatum, Marcus Morris, Daniel Theis, Semi Ojeleye, Grant Williams

C - Robert Williams III, Daniel Theis, Guerschon Yabusele, Semi Ojeleye

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There are big questions to answer at all of PG, PF, and C.

The C's are loaded with bodies at the wing positions... and this help answer some concerns in other areas, because in today's NBA you can trot out 3 or 4 or sometimes even 5 wings and still have a playable line-up.

Still... a whole lot up in the air. And perhaps most notably: not a single NBA big man with quality, proven experience is currently locked down. Tatum isn't a real big, he's more our PF by default.

They are interested in Steven Adams

 

[Gman]

They are interested in Steven Adams

Yep... among others.

I've seen Boston rumored to be interested in just about every big who might be available... which totally makes sense because 1.) the C's seemingly get attached to most rumors and 2.) the C's have a desperate need in this area.

So who knows what the move will end up actually being.

 

[The Q]

Heading into FA, here is a quick look at the current Celtics depth chart.

I'm naturally assuming that both Kyrie and Horford are gone-zo.

Players that may or may not return are highlighted in red.

PG - Terry Rozier, Marcus Smart, Brad Wanamaker, Carsen Edwards, PJ Dozier, Tremont Waters

SG - Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, PJ Dozier, Romeo Langford, RJ Hunter

SF - Gordon Hayward, Jayson Tatum, Marcus Morris, Jaylen Brown, Semi Ojeleye, Romeo Langford, Grant Williams

PF - Jayson Tatum, Marcus Morris, Daniel Theis, Semi Ojeleye, Grant Williams

C - Robert Williams III, Daniel Theis, Guerschon Yabusele, Semi Ojeleye

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There are big questions to answer at all of PG, PF, and C.

The C's are loaded with bodies at the wing positions... and this help answer some concerns in other areas, because in today's NBA you can trot out 3 or 4 or sometimes even 5 wings and still have a playable line-up.

Still... a whole lot up in the air. And perhaps most notably: not a single NBA big man with quality, proven experience is currently locked down. Tatum isn't a real big, he's more our PF by default.

The answer is deangelo Russell for the mini max and Nerlins Noel

 

[The Q]

They are interested in Steven Adams

The time to get him was at the draft. They wanted thybulle

 

[Gman]

The answer is deangelo Russell for the mini max and Nerlins Noel

Russell is an interesting option. And the fact that Boston traded away Baynes, who had a very team-friendly salary, just to open up more cap space suggests that the C's want to make a splash of some sort. Russell would definitely qualify as a splash.

I don't particularly like Noel... but he is a live, big man body... so he might be an option. How about Dedmon from Atlanta?

 

[The Q]

Russell is an interesting option. And the fact that Boston traded away Baynes, who had a very team-friendly salary, just to open up more cap space suggests that the C's want to make a splash of some sort. Russell would definitely qualify as a splash.

I don't particularly like Noel... but he is a live, big man body... so he might be an option. How about Dedmon from Atlanta?

That’s fine too. Ironically this was s good center draft late in the first

 

[Shanemansj13]

Yeah Adams seems unrealistic, I mean if OKC is just looking to dump salary they could give them Smart, Ojeleye and a future draft pick or something along those lines but it seems like the C's need to find a PG first. This is a shooting league, don't get me wrong big men are important, but not as much as they were in the past.

But even after making that trade and adding Adams to the roster, signing draft picks. If they were to renounce everyone they would have a little over 25M in cap. Not quite enough to get Russell but pretty damn close.

 

[The Q]

Yeah Adams seems unrealistic, I mean if OKC is just looking to dump salary they could give them Smart, Ojeleye and a future draft pick or something along those lines but it seems like the C's need to find a PG first. This is a shooting league, don't get me wrong big men are important, but not as much as they were in the past.

But even after making that trade and adding Adams to the roster, signing draft picks. If they were to renounce everyone they would have a little over 25M in cap. Not quite enough to get Russell but pretty damn close.

Dump dancing bear, that’s over 3m

 

[Shanemansj13]

Dump dancing bear, that’s over 3m

LOL yeah, they could find a way to make it work. Then they could acquire two big needs, an athletic, young center and an athletic young PG. That starting lineup would actually be really nice.

 

[LogicMan]

Yep... among others.

I've seen Boston rumored to be interested in just about every big who might be available... which totally makes sense because 1.) the C's seemingly get attached to most rumors and 2.) the C's have a desperate need in this area.

So who knows what the move will end up actually being.

Q good call. Dump dancing bear and for god sake don't sign Adams. Spend the money on Russell.

 

[The Q]

Kanter to Boston 2/10.

It’s decent value.

Defense plus minus hates him. DBPM has him almost neutral.

 

[Rock Strongo]

Kanter to Boston 2/10.

It’s decent value.

Defense plus minus hates him. DBPM has him almost neutral.

just saw this.

STEAL

 

[Gman]

Updated depth chart:

Guys who may or may not return in red.

PG - Kemba Walker, Marcus Smart, Brad Wanamaker, Carsen Edwards, PJ Dozier, Tremont Waters

SG - Jaylen Brown, Marcus Smart, Gordon Hayward, PJ Dozier, Romeo Langford, RJ Hunter

SF - Gordon Hayward, Jayson Tatum, Jaylen Brown, Semi Ojeleye, Romeo Langford, Grant Williams

PF - Jayson Tatum, Daniel Theis, Semi Ojeleye, Grant Williams

C - Enes Kanter, Robert Williams III, Daniel Theis, Guerschon Yabusele, Semi Ojeleye

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I went ahead and pulled Marcus Morris from the chart, the C's can't afford him. I kept Daniel Theis in red because I don't know if he's official and settled on the roster for next season.

Looks pretty settled at this point. Would be great if guys like Semi and RWIII can make strides and offer more in the upcoming.

 

[The Q]

PF is worse than C right now...

 

[Gman]

PF is worse than C right now...

Yeah, it's not a perfect picture in the traditional front court.

Guys like Semi and Grant Williams have muscle, at the very least.

But one is a rookie and the other is a guy who has only progressed at a painfully slow rate.

Can Semi give any more than he has shown and become a more steady contributor? Theoretically, he could be a workable 3+D option at the four. But he will always have limitations (no handle, no first step, no hops).

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Best guess is the C's are gonna have to ride non-traditional when it comes to the PF spot... attack teams with a flurry of wings and out-athlete them.