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I also live in North Carolina...

It's actually going to be pretty hot and humid on Sunday... it has been an uncharacterically cool and wet summer in in NC...

I expect lots of players cramping up this Sunday.

It has been fairly hot and humid (not South hot and humid, though!!) in Seattle over the past few weeks, so I think they will be fine.
 

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That book is favorite skewed. 5dimes @ -110 , TB is -3.5, Hawks -3.5 , and Texans buy to -116 at -3.5.

It sucks to lose the hook but it sure is better than - 4, -4.5 and -5 respectively. Many fg games but there are also the 20-16, the 27-23, the 21 - 17 type games where your -3.5 is good. -4.5 might as well be -5.5.

TB seems too easy which is scary. Doug Martin, VJack, MWilliams with a solid OL. Freeman just play conservative and let the playmakers do their thing. Add in Revis and Goldson to the secondary, their weak 2012 area. They "should" destroy the Jets. Setting myself up for some smack talk, but I don't care.

Texans at -3.5. Chargers are a name brand. Rivers is a statue and is in serious trouble against JJ and the boys. I don't care who is totin the rock, they'll be tough. Tate is a great 2nd back. Andre and now DeAndre, who can ball. One of the Hawk losses will be in Houston.

I can see the Texans destroying SD and I can't stand away faves, but -3.5 was too appetizing.

I have a couple of other games but it's not a great weekend. Go lean but pound what you like. Sucks there are only two - 4:15 games.

VCash is monopoly $$. Good Luck. :suds:


Tampa Bay Buccaneers at New York Jets - Week 1Sun 9/8
459 Tampa Bay Buccaneers -3½ -110 -3 -133-4 -102-185 o39½ -110 1:00PM
460 New York Jets +3½ -110 +3 +113+4 -118 +160 u39½ -110

Seattle Seahawks at Carolina Panthers - Week 1Sun 9/8
467 Seattle Seahawks -3½ -110 -3 -133-4 -102-185 o45 -110 1:00PM
468 Carolina Panthers +3½ -110+3 +113+4 -118 +160 u45 -110

Oakland Raiders at Indianapolis Colts - Week 1Sun 9/8
471 Oakland Raiders +10½ -135+9½ -110+10 -123+9 -104+350 o47 -110 1:00PM
472 Indianapolis Colts -10½ +115 -9½ -110 -10 +103-9 -116 -440 u47 -110

Houston Texans at San Diego Chargers - Week 1Mon 9/9
481 Houston Texans -4 -110 -3½ -116 -4½ -102-200 o44 -110 10:20PM
482 San Diego Chargers +4 -110 +3½ -104+4½ -118 +170 u44 -110

My brother in law is a huge Charger fan so I tend to watch a bit of Charger ball. Their OL is HORRIBLE. Rivers is going to get teed off on. Any team with a halfway decent pass rush is going to destroy them. Couple that with an average at best running game and with the injuries that they have had at WR this offseason, if I were a betting man, I would bet the house that Texans cover....but I'm not.
 

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Yahh. I'd take the Texans on this one. The Chargers Oline looked incredibly bad when the Seahawks played them in preseason. JJ Swat is going to blow up Rivers all game long.

As long as the Seahawks D and O doesn't come out flat in a early on the road game, I think we win this 3-10 points. And as pointed out, there are books offering better than Hawks -4.5, but there are very legit reasons we aren't favored more considering.

Remember an interview with a Vegas sportsbook guy on Seattle sports radio a few week ago. Said the betting action on the Seahawks was incredibly high over the summer.
 

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So here's how I see the game going.

On offense, Seattle will run the ball more than enough to keep the defense honest, but given the stout front 7 Carolina has, where they're going to make their yards and points, in the first half at least, is in the passing game. Wilson's elusiveness combined with injuries in the Carolina secondary mean there will be the opportunity for some big plays there, especially on the play action pass. Ideally, in the second half, as the the front 7 get worn out a little more chasing Wilson around, the running game should pick up a little bit.

Defensively, the thing I fear most is Cam's ability to run, since I'm worried about our D line in this game. However, I think if they can force him to put the ball in the air with some second/third and longs, that plays into our strength, especially given that Steve Smith is the only real receiving threat they have. I'd bet Olsen actually gets better production than Smith in this game, given our trouble at times last year covering the TEs, though I'm hoping Thurmond instead of Trufant should help that some. While our D is not as good as I'd like with the injuries right now, I still think they're able to make enough stops to make the difference in this game.

Not taking special teams into account on this one, though that part of the team is very above average, so I'm not worried about them being a liability at least. In the end, I say the Hawks take this one 23-14, and can hopefully get the D-Line more healthy for the home opener against the 49ers
 

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Here are my concerns for the game...

1) D-line
- This is without of a doubt the biggest question mark for the Seahawks heading into the season. We kept telling ourselves that our two young dts will step up and contribute in some way but one is already out for the year and the other is hampered with injuries. Avril and Clemons aren't on any injury lists but it doesn't look like they're 100 % either. We lost scruggs for the year already. I'm hoping Bennett can be as good as he was last year and hold the fort down. Also a healthy red bryant could be huge.

2) Penalties
- My concern with penalties is more so with the offense than the defense. We aren't an explosive potent offense like those early 2000 rams, but with our efficiency in running the ball and throwing the ball we could be one of the higher scoring teams in the league. The only thing that can really hold back our offense from scoring a of points will be undisciplined penalties. I'm talking about the unnecessary holding calls that take away big runs/passes and kill drives.

3) Third down defense
- Easily one of the most frustrating pet peeve of the defense last year. We single handedly lost the Detroit game because of our third down defense. I'm hoping with our change in d coordinator that we can be more aggressive on third downs, play more man, possibly send in more creative blitzes and make this issue a non issue.


Other than that, if we just play our game like we should, we're more than capable of winning by double digits.
 

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I simply seeing you guys running the ball down their throats. You have three bowling balls of butcher knives for RBs and an OL that is frankly better at run blocking then pass blocking. I cannot fathom a situation where CAR on paper scares the hawks away from what they do best. Will RW throw the ball? Of course, picking his shots. But I don't see him chucking it 35+ times in this game.

Defensively, I feel that your lack of a true pass rush in this game almost means that you can run blitz every play and still be in position to defend the Cam Newton version of the read option. Your CB are collectively WAY better then their WR/TE corps which means that Cam will have a unique look at a tough defense.

Hawks 28
Panthers 13
 

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Lots of BeastMode & Turbo all game long, along with R.O. and passes to multiple targets. Keep the Carolina D on the field and wear them down till waving the white flag in the 4th.

P.S. Good luck Scam Newton trying to pass it on the legion of boom.

Seahawks 27 - Panthers 13
 

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Heard on KJR this morning while driving to work that Browner might or might not play?
 

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Whats wrong with Browner?

Im seeing hamstring, I will be surprised if he doesnt play. I think a lot of guys that had "injuries" during preseason are going to play week 1.
 
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Some good news.

https://twitter.com/Liz_Mathews/statuses/375749617293348864


Yes, that's not a typo. Multiple sources saying Avril practiced today.
 
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Whats wrong with Browner?

Im seeing hamstring, I will be surprised if he doesnt play. I think a lot of guys that had "injuries" during preseason are going to play week 1.

If Browner doesn't start, Thurmond will start, go inside on nickel, and Byron Maxwell covers the edge. Not optimal, but Maxwell did play in 9 games last year so he's got experience.
 

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I hate to say it but I have a bad feeling about this game. I think Carolina's going to come out hot and we're going to need to score 24+ to win this game.
 

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I hate to say it but I have a bad feeling about this game. I think Carolina's going to come out hot and we're going to need to score 24+ to win this game.



I don't think that SEA is going to have a problem discarding CAR pretty quickly. I'm not as impressed with their defensive front as other people and I think you guys are going to run all over them. Your RB are all too strong to not.
 

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I hate to say it but I have a bad feeling about this game. I think Carolina's going to come out hot and we're going to need to score 24+ to win this game.

I truly doubt they will be that successful against our D.
 

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Even the GM is hedging his bets on the Carolina o-line because they have some serious question marks with 3 positions.. Consequently, they have no running game and I'm not worried about Seattle's inactives on the d-line.

Cam is a big play QB, and no team is better at defending the big play than Seattle. He doesn't stand in the pocket and go through his progressions to find open receivers (outside of Smith and Olsen, I'm not really worried about anyone getting open even if Cam spread it around).

Their defense may be improved, but their secondary is still the weakest link. Their starting safety was a street FA last week....... Star may be a huge upgrade for their line, but I certainly wouldn't bank on my rookie 320 lber dominating for 30 minutes. It generally takes time for a guy that big to develop that kind of conditioning.
 

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Browner and Avril are both game time decisions. Browner is questionable, Avril is doubtful. I have a hunch Avril will sit but I really don't know the severity of Browner's situation.
 

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Browner and Avril are both game time decisions. Browner is questionable, Avril is doubtful. I have a hunch Avril will sit but I really don't know the severity of Browner's situation.
Strange about Avril. Heard John Clayton on tv today talking about how Avril was probably going to play Sunday.
 
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