Can We please STOP blaming Welker....

[TKO]

Anyone who thinks Brady's throw to Welker wasn't high, wide and to the wrong shoulder, must have missed the play.

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

Anyone who thinks Brady's throw to Welker wasn't high, wide and to the wrong shoulder, must have missed the play.

Apparently we all missed it? I don't know did you miss it?

 

[redseat]

Yes reseat, I read the thread title. It's astonishment at a Welker thread asking folks not to discuss Welker when nobody was discussing Welker that brings my query.

Any discussion on these boards that somehow gets to the topic of super bowls and the Patriots, Welker's name gets brought up everytime. It's plastered all over articles in papers and sports blogs, tv, etc. It happened, they lost... end of story

 

[Wazmankg]

So he he had to turn his body and leave his feet.
The ball would have hit him in the face if both hands hadn't gotten in the way. Some of you guys are hilarious. But I'll leave you Pats fans alone to discuss it amongst yourselves now.

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

So he he had to turn his body and leave his feet.
The ball would have hit him in the face if both hands hadn't gotten in the way. Some of you guys are hilarious. But I'll leave you Pats fans alone to discuss it amongst yourselves now.

LMAO So basically the majority of Pats fans know it was Brady's fault and some schlup from another team wants to tell us we are all wrong. Jeepers guys I guess we don't know our own team.

 

[NEhomer]

She should have kept her mouth shut but she was right. That's a drop if I did it in Boys Club ball when I was 13 and I would have heard about it from my coach, too. Anyone who doesn't think that was a drop has never been a receiver at any level.

Nah, in the heat of the moment being harassed by a dipshit Giant's fan, I couldn't blame her.

It was a poor throw but it was catchable. Welker has caught dozens of passes like that. Brady clearly overthrew it though.

 

[Wazmankg]

I lied. I'm not leaving yet. I have no idea what being a Pats fan has to do with evaluating a simple pass play in the Super Bowl, but I'll leave that alone. I'm wondering, for you Welker apologists, have any of you ever played receiver at any level ? Seriously. On a play that far downfield the QB's job is to put the ball where the receiver can catch it and the DBs can't. Period. That was done. A WRs job is to catch anything he can get his hands on. The ball hit Welker in both hands... not 1 hand... not his fingertips. It hit him in the palms of both hands and would have hit him in the face had his hands not gotten in the way. It was not thrown hard either. It was not a perfect pass but it was a very catchable one and Welker simply dropped it.

 

[TKO]

So he he had to turn his body and leave his feet.
The ball would have hit him in the face if both hands hadn't gotten in the way. Some of you guys are hilarious. But I'll leave you Pats fans alone to discuss it amongst yourselves now.

Watch the play sometime moron...then come back.

 

[TKO]

Apparently we all missed it? I don't know did you miss it?

Provide the code so I can decipher your point.

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

Provide the code so I can decipher your point.

Point was or is, we all seem to agree Brady was more at fault than anyone else. You stated the pass was high, behind and to the wrong shoulder and I agree. Code is if there is one, or at least what I was getting at, how does anyone else especially a fan of another team see it differently? I just don't get it.


Sorry I worded the response poorly.

 

[TKO]

Point was or is, we all seem to agree Brady was more at fault than anyone else. You stated the pass was high, behind and to the wrong shoulder and I agree. Code is if there is one, or at least what I was getting at, how does anyone else especially a fan of another team see it differently? I just don't get it.


Sorry I worded the response poorly.

Got it. I think it's mostly on Brady because it was a tough catch but it didn't need to be. That fan said it would have hit Welker in the face???...he needs to get his eyes examined or actually watch the video.

 

[redseat]

I lied. I'm not leaving yet. I have no idea what being a Pats fan has to do with evaluating a simple pass play in the Super Bowl, but I'll leave that alone. I'm wondering, for you Welker apologists, have any of you ever played receiver at any level ? Seriously. On a play that far downfield the QB's job is to put the ball where the receiver can catch it and the DBs can't. Period. That was done. A WRs job is to catch anything he can get his hands on. The ball hit Welker in both hands... not 1 hand... not his fingertips. It hit him in the palms of both hands and would have hit him in the face had his hands not gotten in the way. It was not thrown hard either. It was not a perfect pass but it was a very catchable one and Welker simply dropped it.

We get he didn't catch the ball because obviously he did not. What I am getting at is... he is not solely the reason why the Patriots lost. The defense didn't get it done either when it needed too. You can't simply just blame Welker without putting blame elsewhere as well.

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

Got it. I think it's mostly on Brady because it was a tough catch but it didn't need to be. That fan said it would have hit Welker in the face???...he needs to get his eyes examined or actually watch the video.

Right, most of his comments make me think he never saw the play. I guess he was the hero of his High School football team and he somehow feels that makes him more qualified then any other poster. I played Soccer, Hockey and Lacrosse in HS I know damn well when Lucic makes a bad pass, that does not make my opinion any better or more educated then yours.

 

[JDM]

I lied. I'm not leaving yet. I have no idea what being a Pats fan has to do with evaluating a simple pass play in the Super Bowl, but I'll leave that alone. I'm wondering, for you Welker apologists, have any of you ever played receiver at any level ? Seriously. On a play that far downfield the QB's job is to put the ball where the receiver can catch it and the DBs can't. Period. That was done. A WRs job is to catch anything he can get his hands on. The ball hit Welker in both hands... not 1 hand... not his fingertips. It hit him in the palms of both hands and would have hit him in the face had his hands not gotten in the way. It was not thrown hard either. It was not a perfect pass but it was a very catchable one and Welker simply dropped it.

This.

Even in high school any of our receivers would have been benched for dropping that ball. If you get one hand on it, it's a ball you should catch. If you get both, you can't blame anyone but yourself.

 

[TKO]

Right, most of his comments make me think he never saw the play. I guess he was the hero of his High School football team and he somehow feels that makes him more qualified then any other poster. I played Soccer, Hockey and Lacrosse in HS I know damn well when Lucic makes a bad pass, that does not make my opinion any better or more educated then yours.

He made a point of asking if any of us ever played WR at any level...probably because he was a starting WR on his four man neighborhood touch football team. One Mississippi--two Mississippi--three Mississippi etc.--- He was open when the count reached five.

 

[NEhomer]

http://thesportscult.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/welker.jpg

http://theurbantwist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/02062012-welker.jpg

Catchable but a poor throw.

 

[TKO]

This.

Even in high school any of our receivers would have been benched for dropping that ball. If you get one hand on it, it's a ball you should catch. If you get both, you can't blame anyone but yourself.

LOL! JDM grabs hold and never lets go. Would you have gotten benched for telling a foot joke too?

 

[TKO]

http://thesportscult.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/welker.jpg

http://theurbantwist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/02062012-welker.jpg

Catchable but a poor throw.

The video is a better way to assess that IMO. Welker had to do a 360 in midair and stretch to the limit just to get his hands on it. I'd say it's at least 80% on Brady but it's opinion.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT6XziIQ5RI]Wes Welker Superbowl XLVI Dropped Pass - YouTube[/ame]

 

[JDM]

Where is he supposed to put that ball exactly? Welker is not capable of fighting for a ball. There was one window to put that ball into and Brady put it there. He gave Welker the best opportunity there was to make a catch. Welker, like he has done his entire career, dropped it.

 

[TKO]

Where is he supposed to put that ball exactly? Welker is not capable of fighting for a ball. There was one window to put that ball into and Brady put it there. He gave Welker the best opportunity there was to make a catch. Welker, like he has done his entire career, dropped it.

Brady threw it HIGH...W-I-D-E and to the wrong shoulder...how is that giving Welker "the best opportunity"?
Stop the video at the 15 sec mark and you'll see the DBs were both about five yards away on either side of Welker. That's hyperbolically the equivalent of the Grand Canyon when you talk about tight NFL coverage. Brady had plenty of room to hit him on the inside shoulder. It's just FACT.