Breaking News: Satelite camps shut down immediately

[Bandwagonbo2]

Boy the NCAA moved fast on that. Why don't they act that fast on schools that are cheating or falsifying grades; NC, SYR, etc.

What a freaking joke they are.

This has been a

 

[cwerph]

Btw, if this is for the good of the kids - why are the camps all in the south in recruiting rich areas?

I guess Harbaugh is like - fuck those kids from Maine!

The MAC schools in Ohio do camps all over the state, or, at least they used to.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

In other words, the rest of the country OUTSIDE the B1G since the other 4 P5 conferences voted against it!

They bent to the will of the SEC. They saw a threat and they wanted it gone. It had nothing to do with the benefit to the student athlete (not having to travel thousands of miles on their own dime to go to football camps). Yes, it also benefited schools to go to camps in other states to see other talent -- but that's a good thing. Kids who never could have been seen by Harbaugh (or any other coach who did this, like Urban) because they weren't highly ranked by recruiting sites or they couldn't afford to come to camps were now being seen by one of the country's premier coaches. Kids who never would have landed a scholarship offer to schools could be seen by traveling MAC programs and get a full ride to college. This doesn't hurt the 4/5 star guys, this hurts the potential walk-ons and low 3 or 2 star guys that never have a chance otherwise.

NCAA bans use of satellite college football camps

"This happened because the SEC coaches are mad at Jim Harbaugh," said one non-Power Five head coach. "That's all. It's a (expletive) joke. Think about all the kids who could've ended up getting MAC scholarships because they got seen by someone who probably would never have saw them before. That's who you're really hurting. What about those kids? It's going to force these kids to spend more money. All you're doing is providing more exposure."


Satellite-camp ban hurts many, but not Michigan's Jim Harbaugh

"In a ruling that appeased seemingly nobody outside of a Southeastern coaches' office, the NCAA Division I council voted Friday to ban its football coaches from attending summer camps away from their campuses. "

"The biggest loss, though, belongs to prospective athletes who use these camps as a way to get noticed by coaches. Several successfulsatellite campers tweeted out their disapproval Friday afternoon."

So, sure, celebrate that your recruiting grounds are protected somewhat but in doing so you've harmed the student athlete. As it says in the article, Michigan still has it's spring practice trips and will likely find a way around this. But ultimately this rule is unnecessary and hidden behind the false premise of keeping things equal. In reality, it prevents other schools from gaining access to the most talent rich areas in CFB.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

Because the SEC has a rule against them and it created a disadvantage for SEC schools. They petitioned the SEC to change the rule if the NCAA did not rule against the satellite camps as it does give an unfair advantage to other conferences. Thats all the SEC coaches wanted was the ability to do as others were given the opportunity to do. Do you think its right they had an unfair advantage? Now due to Harbaugh they no longer have that advantage at all. Guess its time to be pissed at him huh?

No, the SEC should have removed that restriction. The SEC didn't think this was a disadvantage, the SEC wanted to keep schools out of their recruiting grounds because they wanted to keep their advantage. Stop hiding behind this false premise of equality because there's absolutely nothing equal about this. Schools that happen to reside in the most talent rich states, by no doing of their own, have a significant advantage in recruiting; especially when they're the only major school within that state. The SEC was willing to push for something that harms student athletes so they could keep that advantage.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

No, the SEC should have removed that restriction. The SEC didn't think this was a disadvantage, the SEC wanted to keep schools out of their recruiting grounds because they wanted to keep their advantage. Stop hiding behind this false premise of equality because there's absolutely nothing equal about this. Schools that happen to reside in the most talent rich states, by no doing of their own, have a significant advantage in recruiting; especially when they're the only major school within that state. The SEC was willing to push for something that harms student athletes so they could keep that advantage.

So its your premise that the NCAA has stated with this new rule that schools have to stay in their areas to recruit? Because thats how you made it sound? Sorry if you cannot see past the blinders you have on, but this is not a bad thing, its a good thing and allows all schools to be represented equally by this rule.

Here's a fact for you, the three most talent rich states in the US are California(due to its size, Texas(due to its size) and Florida. So if this is all about talent rich, why do schools regularly pull talent from all over the country? Alabama has had as many as 14 states represented in recent recruiting classes due to actual recruiting by the school all over the country. They identified players they wanted and went after them. If Bama is in such a talent rich area, then why are they reaching out to 14 different states? Can they not find players just as good in talent rich land?

Your whining premise is falling on deaf ears because we all know that your coach flaunting his skirt before the NCAA prompted this whole incident and now he has to stay in his (talentless) region or spend money to recruit kids like other schools do.

 

[MAIZEandBLUE09]

So its your premise that the NCAA has stated with this new rule that schools have to stay in their areas to recruit? Because thats how you made it sound? Sorry if you cannot see past the blinders you have on, but this is not a bad thing, its a good thing and allows all schools to be represented equally by this rule.

Here's a fact for you, the three most talent rich states in the US are California(due to its size, Texas(due to its size) and Florida. So if this is all about talent rich, why do schools regularly pull talent from all over the country? Alabama has had as many as 14 states represented in recent recruiting classes due to actual recruiting by the school all over the country. They identified players they wanted and went after them. If Bama is in such a talent rich area, then why are they reaching out to 14 different states? Can they not find players just as good in talent rich land?

Your whining premise is falling on deaf ears because we all know that your coach flaunting his skirt before the NCAA prompted this whole incident and now he has to stay in his (talentless) region or spend money to recruit kids like other schools do.

Schools can absolutely recruit different areas under the restricted times -- but nothing is quite the same as spending a week with a coach at a football camp. And now schools are limited to their own states to do so, which really benefits schools that happen to be in the most talent rich states. It's a significant advantage now only for some.

Half of Bama's recruiting class just last year came from in state or within states that border the state of Alabama (IE -- states where it would be of little cost to drive to a Bama camp). 50% of your class. You know how many kids would fit that same description in the Michigan class last year? 5 -- and one was a kicker.

It's simply not the same and the SEC wanted to maintain their advantage.

 

[cwerph]

LOL at the SEC fans pretending they don't know what this is about.

 

[ericd7633]

Really glad this was passed because it will help Notre Dame very much. ND plays a game in North Carolina, Florida, California and two in Texas. ND will be present 4 times in those talent rich states. One of the reasons its easier for ND to recruit nationally.

 

[Bandwagonbo2]

Schools can absolutely recruit different areas under the restricted times -- but nothing is quite the same as spending a week with a coach at a football camp. And now schools are limited to their own states to do so, which really benefits schools that happen to be in the most talent rich states. It's a significant advantage now only for some.

Half of Bama's recruiting class just last year came from in state or within states that border the state of Alabama (IE -- states where it would be of little cost to drive to a Bama camp). 50% of your class. You know how many kids would fit that same description in the Michigan class last year? 5 -- and one was a kicker.

It's simply not the same and the SEC wanted to maintain their advantage.

So you want us to shed a tear for you because your own coach flaunted his shit and made a big deal of things and the NCAA started looking at it. I can post words stated by my own coach that states he doesnt give a shit about these camps and sees little value in them versus the time the coaches have to spend with the kids. Its no surprise that Saban and his staff are consistently top recruiters and thats due to hard work and knowing talent when they look at film. Its not about keeping an advantage.

You seem to feel that the SEC has an advantage now, but imagine if the SEC had lifted its ban on these camps due to others doing it and not wanting to tie its teams hands and create a disadvantage. Can you imagine teams like LSU, Alabama, Ole Miss in your back yard taking your talent due to a satellite camp? Can you imagine the money they would be able to spend yo do multiple camps per year? Just think about how much money each SEC team gets from the SEC network and that rolling into camps and opportunities in multiple areas targeting not only your best players, but the best from other schools as well. So please, spare me the boo hoo act and realize the NCAA actually just saved your ass in a sense because you really dont want the best recruiting staffs in the country coming into your neighborhood and holding camps for players you depend on.

 

[Across The Field]

Boy the NCAA moved fast on that. Why don't they act that fast on schools that are cheating or falsifying grades; NC, SYR, etc.

What a freaking joke they are.

 

[Bamabino]

Schools can absolutely recruit different areas under the restricted times -- but nothing is quite the same as spending a week with a coach at a football camp. And now schools are limited to their own states to do so, which really benefits schools that happen to be in the most talent rich states. It's a significant advantage now only for some.

Half of Bama's recruiting class just last year came from in state or within states that border the state of Alabama (IE -- states where it would be of little cost to drive to a Bama camp). 50% of your class. You know how many kids would fit that same description in the Michigan class last year? 5 -- and one was a kicker.

It's simply not the same and the SEC wanted to maintain their advantage.

A whole week? Clueless again. Aren't these camps half a day, at best?

 

[GoldRusher]

So, no Briles and Harbaugh at the same time on the same field?

Harbaughs slumber parties and Briles teams record on r*pe.........yikes!

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

Man -- Can't believe I missed out on a 10 page thread like this. Potty training my little boy comes first though.

Haven't read and won't read 10 pages of posts.

I will just say this -- SEC fans arguing about a level playing field and that being the only reason why they want the camps banned are clueless. It was nothing more to try and protect the talent rich recruiting areas located in the SEC. The Bama fans saying -- Bama isn't Cali, Florida, Texas in terms of recruiting -- open your eyes. The SEC schools are located in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Louisiana, Texas, etc. They are brought up on SEC football, as the Midwest is brought up on the Big. The West coast is brought up on the Pac-12. THAT is why they don't want these camps. They don't want coaches like Urban Meyer and Harbaugh from the B1G doing camps in SEC territory. When it was James Franklin and Mike Riley -- they may not have liked it, but they didn't really care as they didn't pose a threat. When high profile coaches start doing it, then it does become a threat.

The reason the SEC didn't just raise their ban -- simple, they are already centrally located in the talent rich areas. Kids can drive to a camp at those schools. Kids can drive up to see a school and meet the staff.

It is what it is though -- UM will just find the next loop hole to exploit. Will be fun to see what it ends up being and even more fun to listen to the SEC cry about it.

 

[TrustMeIamRight]

A whole week? Clueless again. Aren't these camps half a day, at best?

No wonder the SEC wants these camps banned!!! A week long camp? MnB -- the camps are 3-4 hours long.

 

[HuskerinBig10]

What the B1G needs to do is start up two B1G Academies, one in the west division, I guess Iowa is the most centrally located, and one in Pennsylvania, the most centrally located? There will be a pissing war about where they are located, that is why I said two, if just one then the pissing war would have involved many many penises.

Let any kid that wants to attend for sports go for free, all paid for by some "mysterious benefactor."

be sure to stress how it is for "academics"

Academics

For sports, the B1G can add Hockey and Field Hockey.

Looking at the IMG website, they never say what the tuition is. That is how you sell, never let people see the high price.

But that is where the B1GAcademy will force the issue. FREE for stud athletes.

 

[ellupo]

Man -- Can't believe I missed out on a 10 page thread like this. Potty training my little boy comes first though.

Haven't read and won't read 10 pages of posts.

I will just say this -- SEC fans arguing about a level playing field and that being the only reason why they want the camps banned are clueless. It was nothing more to try and protect the talent rich recruiting areas located in the SEC. The Bama fans saying -- Bama isn't Cali, Florida, Texas in terms of recruiting -- open your eyes. The SEC schools are located in Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Tennessee, Louisiana, Texas, etc. They are brought up on SEC football, as the Midwest is brought up on the Big. The West coast is brought up on the Pac-12. THAT is why they don't want these camps. They don't want coaches like Urban Meyer and Harbaugh from the B1G doing camps in SEC territory. When it was James Franklin and Mike Riley -- they may not have liked it, but they didn't really care as they didn't pose a threat. When high profile coaches start doing it, then it does become a threat.

The reason the SEC didn't just raise their ban -- simple, they are already centrally located in the talent rich areas. Kids can drive to a camp at those schools. Kids can drive up to see a school and meet the staff.

It is what it is though -- UM will just find the next loop hole to exploit. Will be fun to see what it ends up being and even more fun to listen to the SEC cry about it.

I feel so dirty agreeing with a Michigan fan especially Trustme and MnB but they are right.

If the NCAA cared about the student athlete they would have talked to the other P5 and had them lift their own ban so playing field was equal. All this ban does is screw those lower rated kids.

 

[HammerDown]

Boy the NCAA moved fast on that. Why don't they act that fast on schools that are cheating or falsifying grades; NC, SYR, etc.

What a freaking joke they are.

North Carolina shouldn't have even been playing in that tournament.

 

[HammerDown]

I feel so dirty agreeing with a Michigan fan especially Trustme and MnB but they are right.

...but since you follow the party, err I mean conference line, this time you will.

You're too much, man.

 

[ellupo]

...but since you follow the party, err I mean conference line, this time you will.

You're too much, man.

Do you every contribute to a thread? You need a special troll area. Or maybe a tag, "This guy has zero football knowledge." Move along son, the adults are talking.

 

[HammerDown]

Move along son, the 'swingers are 'swinging .

FIFY

Agreeing with Michigan fans when you KNOW they're wrong. Dude, this is a new low for you. I'm embarrassed.