BOWL SEASON (and playoff season also)!!

[Ron G]

On paper would seem to be a better matchup for us.

Guess dealing with 18–22-year-olds so never know.

Hence the problem. Neither the loser of this game nor the ND/ Penn State game should be referred to as anything but excellent teams.

Depending on when and how the points are scored, a 37 to 20 game could be viewed as a blow out or a close game.

 

[tc1]

Where's the guy who claimed Oregon should be the co National Champion even if they don't win the playoff. Not sure if he meant the actual championship game or any playoff game. I will watch for his next post explaining why.

[ Sorry to keep you waiting, I was out of town for a while. ]

I explained it about a dozen times already, so I'm sure you can find those posts.

And the point has not changed. Whoever wins the last game is not going to have a resume better than Oregon's. Notre Dame can match their single loss, but the other teams will all have more losses and not-more quality wins. I don't think either Penn State or Texas can catch Oregon on the various math-based selectors, although I have not delved into the formulas. Oregon still has wins over half of the remaining teams, so their SOS is still going up.

All that said, if people want to call Notre Dame -- which is practically an ACC team, since they play most of an ACC schedule and have an ACC quarterback -- the champions, I am here for the ensuing entertainment.

 

[dtgold88]

[ Sorry to keep you waiting, I was out of town for a while. ]

I explained it about a dozen times already, so I'm sure you can find those posts.

And the point has not changed. Whoever wins the last game is not going to have a resume better than Oregon's. Notre Dame can match their single loss, but the other teams will all have more losses and not-more quality wins. I don't think either Penn State or Texas can catch Oregon on the various math-based selectors, although I have not delved into the formulas. Oregon still has wins over half of the remaining teams, so their SOS is still going up.

All that said, if people want to call Notre Dame -- which is practically an ACC team, since they play most of an ACC schedule and have an ACC quarterback -- the champions, I am here for the ensuing entertainment.

OSU also has wins over half the remaining teams and while they lost to Oregon it was AT Oregon by a point. Beat them (by a lot) at a neutral site. IF we win it all can also add wins over Texas and either ND or another over PSU (plus the TN win).

But the idea you'd make the comments you do and claim you'd be entertained by calling ND the champ after winning the championship is next level.

 

[Ron G]

[ Sorry to keep you waiting, I was out of town for a while. ]

I explained it about a dozen times already, so I'm sure you can find those posts.

And the point has not changed. Whoever wins the last game is not going to have a resume better than Oregon's. Notre Dame can match their single loss, but the other teams will all have more losses and not-more quality wins. I don't think either Penn State or Texas can catch Oregon on the various math-based selectors, although I have not delved into the formulas. Oregon still has wins over half of the remaining teams, so their SOS is still going up.

All that said, if people want to call Notre Dame -- which is practically an ACC team, since they play most of an ACC schedule and have an ACC quarterback -- the champions, I am here for the ensuing entertainment.

If Riley Leonard is an ACC QB, please let us know what Dillian Garbriel is. UCF , Oklahoma or Oregon, pick one.

For benefit of the doubt, let's give Oregon the best resume, how much does the CHOKE factor enter into the equation when determining the champion. Let's face it, when the real pressure was on, Oregon spit the bit.

In their biggest and most important game of the year they lost by 20 points. Hard to see why anybody would not consider them the champion.

 

[dtgold88]

If Riley Leonard is an ACC QB, please let us know what Dillian Garbriel is. UCF , Oklahoma or Oregon, pick one.

For benefit of the doubt, let's give Oregon the best resume, how much does the CHOKE factor enter into the equation when determining the champion. Let's face it, when the real pressure was on, Oregon spit the bit.

In their biggest and most important game of the year they lost by 20 points. Hard to see why anybody would not consider them the champion.

and the resume thing is nuts as IF OSU won they would have played and beaten at least 2 and maybe all 3 of the semi teams. In addition beat Tennessee and Indiana from the CFP.

Oregon would have beaten OSU at home by 1 (OSU beat them neutral by 20), PSU neutral (OSU beat them at PSU) and BSU at home by a FG?

But sure.....raise a banner and have a parade for it if they want.

 

[Dolgevillefootballfan]

Semifinal picks

So the semifinals begin tonight... Well, I see Notre Dame beating Penn State 27-20 in the Orange Bowl. And tomorrow night, Texas should slow down Ohio State long enough to win 37-34.

 

[tc1]

If Riley Leonard is an ACC QB, please let us know what Dillian Garbriel is. UCF , Oklahoma or Oregon, pick one.

First off, who says we have to pick one? Second, Gabriel has not been a 3-year starter in any conference -- Leonard has. Finally, Leonard has only played for one college football team that belongs to a conference -- again, unlike Gabriel.

For benefit of the doubt, let's give Oregon the best resume, how much does the CHOKE factor enter into the equation when determining the champion. Let's face it, when the real pressure was on, Oregon spit the bit.

Oregon played one terrible quarter, against a quality opponent. As did all of the teams who had nearly a month off before the playoff. On the other hand, the remaining teams all lost multiple games or lost to a weak opponent. If you want to say that two losses sans pressure is better than one with pressure, we'll have to agree to disagree on that point.

In their biggest and most important game of the year they lost by 20 points. Hard to see why anybody would not consider them the champion.

Again, I don't follow your logic that losing multiple games is better than losing one, regardless of circumstance.

If that's the case, why play the games?

 

[UK Cowboy]

If Penn State had a QB they would win the whole thing

 

[DJ Fieri]

LFG Notre Dame!!!

 

[PIBuckeye]

If Penn State had a QB they would win the whole thing

Yeah they have a good defense
Guess whose is better……

 

[UK Cowboy]

Yeah they have a good defense
Guess whose is better……

I don't know that it is. They just have Jeremiah Smith and outscore everyone

 

[PIBuckeye]

I don't know that it is.

Then you haven’t watched many of their games…..

 

[UK Cowboy]

Then you haven’t watched many of their games…..

I watched a few. Lets see how their defense looks against Texas tomorrow. They are going to come to understand the term pick on somebody your own size

 

[Ron G]

Looks like ND's injuries have finally caught up to them. Especially if Leonard does not return. Backup QB (although very good) and two backup tackles means they really need a lot of luck. Love does not yet appear to be threat.

Although at this point it might not have made a difference in the last drive, they probably could have called roughing the passer. The ball was gone, he knees were down, and defender drove him into the ground and landed on top of him. That may only be penalty in the pros, I am not sure about college. It should be hard for the refs to call a ticky-tacky roughing on the Penn State QB if one occurs.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Looks like ND's injuries have finally caught up to them. Especially if Leonard does not return. Backup QB (although very good) and two backup tackles means they really need a lot of luck. Love does not yet appear to be threat.

Although at this point it might not have made a difference in the last drive, they probably could have called roughing the passer. The ball was gone, he knees were down, and defender drove him into the ground and landed on top of him. That may only be penalty in the pros, I am not sure about college. It should be hard for the refs to call a ticky-tacky roughing on the Penn State QB if one occurs.

The backup QB played a Hell of a lot better than their starter

 

[Ron G]

The backup QB played a Hell of a lot better than their starter

Until. just now. I do think Penn State played too soft with just a minute to go.

 

[Ron G]

First off, who says we have to pick one? Second, Gabriel has not been a 3-year starter in any conference -- Leonard has. Finally, Leonard has only played for one college football team that belongs to a conference -- again, unlike Gabriel.



Oregon played one terrible quarter, against a quality opponent. As did all of the teams who had nearly a month off before the playoff. On the other hand, the remaining teams all lost multiple games or lost to a weak opponent. If you want to say that two losses sans pressure is better than one with pressure, we'll have to agree to disagree on that point.



Again, I don't follow your logic that losing multiple games is better than losing one, regardless of circumstance.

If that's the case, why play the games?

I was thinking about what you are doing tomorrow night. I do know what you are not doing, you are not watching the National Champion Oregon Ducks.

 

[PIBuckeye]

Interesting
Nd woke up

 

[tc1]

I was thinking about what you are doing tomorrow night. I do know what you are not doing, you are not watching the National Champion Oregon Ducks.

I guess I'm flattered that my schedule is of such interest to you. Suggest that you might want to seek a more fulfilling hobby though. If you're not careful you'll end up obsessed with me, like at least one other individual here is.

Anyway, whether or not Oregon is a national champion this season remains to be seen. If you are intending to injure me by mocking the Ducks, I'll remind you that I'm not an Oregon fan, so knock yourself out -- those comments will fall like water off a duck's back.

 

[Ron G]

There did seem to be no contact until after the ball was intercepted.