bengals post game

[skinsdad62]

Film Room - Cooley Breaks Down Kelley's 21-Yard Gain 

cooley break down of kelley run . nice job by the o/line

 

[SoCalWizFan]

The entire team has looked sloppy and ill-prepared this preseason. Not just the QB. GO back and look at the games. The O-line has looked soft. The big WR acquisition has been playing Marvels Stone fist dropping balls. The Defense has been slow to gel. Add in that Reed has been hurt (again) and Doctson is doing his best impression of Malcolm Kelly ( A kid who wants to get paid for four years and retire with as little playing time as possible).

Yep & that is why you just have to be happy that this is preseason. Let's just wait a few weeks before coming to any conclusions. BTW - the defense will take a while to gel - why in the world would you think anything else? Tons of changes to the lineup & being manned primarily by younger guys with new coaches. Like it or not - this is how it works. I am at least excited by Brown - he looks like he is going to be a force vs. the run & looks like someone in the LFB mold.

 

[skinsdad62]

http://www.redskins.com/media-galle...d_Option/24fe49be-7233-4ef5-b0b6-3a2c5b966dba

read option , good job here

 

[SoCalWizFan]

there is no doom or gloom here. I an just pointing out rookie mistakes and decision making that should be corrected by now.

You mean like the pick 6 that Brady made in the SB? If he were yanked in the 3rd QTR (like is the case for most of these QBs in preseason) he would have looked like one of the worst QBs ever. You need to stop already by making so many damn conclusions based on these games. Cousins could still have his fair share of issues but now is not the time to get so bent out of shape over this & yes his O line didn't help him yesterday. In the case of Trent Williams I have no doubt that these will be corrected in the regular season.

 

[deanpet21]

You mean like the pick 6 that Brady made in the SB? If he were yanked in the 3rd QTR (like is the case for most of these QBs in preseason) he would have looked like one of the worst QBs ever. You need to stop already by making so many damn conclusions based on these games. Cousins could still have his fair share of issues but now is not the time to get so bent out of shape over this & yes his O line didn't help him yesterday. In the case of Trent Williams I have no doubt that these will be corrected in the regular season.

Im not bent at all. His decision making all pre season has been bad. Not just yesterday. I know its pre season. I just hope it doenst carry into the regular season.

 

[Sharkinva]

Yep & that is why you just have to be happy that this is preseason. Let's just wait a few weeks before coming to any conclusions. BTW - the defense will take a while to gel - why in the world would you think anything else? Tons of changes to the lineup & being manned primarily by younger guys with new coaches. Like it or not - this is how it works. I am at least excited by Brown - he looks like he is going to be a force vs. the run & looks like someone in the LFB mold.

NO doubt you are correct here. But then again there is a portion of our fan base watching the preseason with only one thing in mind. Cementing the notion that we were smart not to sign Cousins long term, and we should prepare ourselves for the drafting of one of these rookies next year. Should this team struggle for ANY reason, these same folks will be the ones screaming we need to do what ever it takes to trade up for (Darnold/Rosen/ or who ever the next Wonderkind is)

 

[deanpet21]

NO doubt you are correct here. But then again there is a portion of our fan base watching the preseason with only one thing in mind. Cementing the notion that we were smart not to sign Cousins long term, and we should prepare ourselves for the drafting of one of these rookies next year. Should this team struggle for ANY reason, these same folks will be the ones screaming we need to do what ever it takes to trade up for (Darnold/Rosen/ or who ever the next Wonderkind is)

So if Kc regresses this year, are you still going to bash the front office?

 

[Sharkinva]

So if Kc regresses this year, are you still going to bash the front office?

Yep.. because much like you the front office is short sighted and more concerned with what looks sexy over whats best for the team. Because if Cousins regresses he simply becomes average. And I would rather we build around an average QB and continue to build the team over the constant chase for an elite QB which has failed miserably for the past 20 years and lead to the rest of the team being horrid in some areas for a very long time.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Im not bent at all. His decision making all pre season has been bad. Not just yesterday. I know its pre season. I just hope it doenst carry into the regular season.

Agree but let's not portray this like Cousins is the only one having issues on the offense rt now. The line had problems & Pryor botched his only other potential reception. It is going to take a little time to get things going. The coaching staff is different & you are working in basically two new receivers (hopefully). If there are going to be issues now is the time for them to happen.

 

[deanpet21]

Yep.. because much like you the front office is short sighted and more concerned with what looks sexy over whats best for the team. Because if Cousins regresses he simply becomes average. And I would rather we build around an average QB and continue to build the team over the constant chase for an elite QB which has failed miserably for the past 20 years and lead to the rest of the team being horrid in some areas for a very long time.

Only you would pay the biggest contract in NFL history for an average QB. If KC succeeds the front office looks like asses. IF KC regresses then the front office looks like geniuses. So according to you it doesn't matter how KC performs he is going to get paid no matter what.

 

[deanpet21]

Agree but let's not portray this like Cousins is the only one having issues on the offense rt now. The line had problems & Pryor botched his only other potential reception. It is going to take a little time to get things going. The coaching staff is different & you are working in basically two new receivers (hopefully). If there are going to be issues now is the time for them to happen.

Yes, but the offense is the same. The only new player is Pryor. I don't see why this should be new to KC.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Only you would pay the biggest contract in NFL history for an average QB. If KC succeeds the front office looks like asses. IF KC regresses then the front office looks like geniuses. So according to you it doesn't matter how KC performs he is going to get paid no matter what.

It almost sounds like you are expecting KC to revert to his year 1 or 2 form & base this on a handful of plays in preseason. You are not giving the guy much credit. He is pretty smart & has shown the ability to adapt & learn.

I agree that he may have some issues this season (e.g. still not doing well in the clutch). However - in no way do I see him reverting to his early form where he is making disastrous mistakes in almost every game & not being effective. That is quite a stretch based on a few of these games.

 

[skinsdad62]

Yes, but the offense is the same. The only new player is Pryor. I don't see why this should be new to KC.

pryor 3 preseason drops in less then 10 targets . dox is also "new " and hasnt been in many game situations

as for " paying " for avg your ability to see into the future is either pathetic or clouded by hate . KC's new contract from whatever team is paying him will be avg in less then 3 years max

 

[deanpet21]

It almost sounds like you are expecting KC to revert to his year 1 or 2 form & base this on a handful of plays in preseason. You are not giving the guy much credit. He is pretty smart & has shown the ability to adapt & learn.

I agree that he may have some issues this season (e.g. still not doing well in the clutch). However - in no way do I see him reverting to his early form where he is making disastrous mistakes in almost every game & not being effective. That is quite a stretch based on a few of these games.

I don't expect him to struggle either. But it sounds like you have built in excuses if he fails. KC should be held to a higher standard right now being paid 24m a year.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Yes, but the offense is the same. The only new player is Pryor. I don't see why this should be new to KC.

Moving forward Pryor and Doctson will basically be new. Yes - the system is the same, but they will need to adapt to some degree by having Gruden assume a bigger role. Again - it is preseason - let's just take a deep breath & wait in see what happens in real games. If this continues to the same degree by all means be critical.

 

[deanpet21]

pryor 3 preseason drops in less then 10 targets . dox is also "new " and hasnt been in many game situations

as for " paying " for avg your ability to see into the future is either pathetic or clouded by hate . KC's new contract from whatever team is paying him will be avg in less then 3 years max

built in excuses just like I said. So no matter how he plays this year he is going to get paid.

 

[skinsdad62]

I don't expect him to struggle either. But it sounds like you have built in excuses if he fails. KC should be held to a higher standard right now being paid 24m a year.

good and when you bash any other qb for the same short comings i'll be waiting

i expect KC will have as good a year as he has had in the last 2

 

[Sharkinva]

Only you would pay the biggest contract in NFL history for an average QB. If KC succeeds the front office looks like asses. IF KC regresses then the front office looks like geniuses. So according to you it doesn't matter how KC performs he is going to get paid no matter what.

Wrong, they still look like idiots because they are once again desperate for a QB. And the last time they were desperate for a QB what did they do?? If they feared him regressing as much as you apparently do, they never should have tagged him in the first place. So they are in a no win situation unless the entire team fails, we finish 3-13 or worse, and they get to draft that shiny new toy some of you are itching for. Smart teams are NOT constantly hunting for QBs. Dumb fucks (See Dan Snyder, Bruce Allen) are constantly focused on the QB position to the detriment of the rest of the team.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

I don't expect him to struggle either. But it sounds like you have built in excuses if he fails. KC should be held to a higher standard right now being paid 24m a year.

Man you hate the guy & I am getting the feeling that you are hoping that he fails. What part of my replies indicates to you that I have built in excuse for if he fails? I have stated repeatedly that if these same issues exist in the regular season then by all means fans should be critical. Sorry that the Redskins didn't please you by trading Cousins already.

 

[deanpet21]

good and when you bash any other qb for the same short comings i'll be waiting

i expect KC will have as good a year as he has had in the last 2

I will be waiting for you built in excuses. Im judging the guy from a clean slate you are not.