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I've had 5 knee surgeries and I really need to have my right knee replaced and I'm available. :wave:
How old will you be to start the 2022 season? We know you'll miss your rookie season. Question is do you you reinjure it again in the following seasons mini camps?
 

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How old will you be to start the 2022 season? We know you'll miss your rookie season. Question is do you you reinjure it again in the following seasons mini camps?


I'll be a month shy of 62 and it's likely I'll still be as fast on my feet as Brady ever was :nod:



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So let's see your lists! Positions you want to see the Pats address in the off season via FA or Draft. List them in order of importance.

1. WR: Need a speed guy someone to take the top off the D.
2. DT or NT we can't stop the run at all.
3. QB if TB leaves I feel they need a Vet FA and a rookie
4. TE
5. RT
6. S
 

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1). Agree with a WR who has speed, speed and alittle more speed. With good hands!

2). TE who can catch and block.

3). O-line. Center Guard Tackle

4). DT. One that can plug the middle and collapse the pocket.

5). Safety. One who is an enforcer. Make Wr’s scared to go over the middle.

6). Punt/kick return specialist. Not one of our starting WR’s or slow Bolden.

7). Kicker. Who knows if Gostkowski will return to form. He was iffy before the injury. Folk actually did a good job. But a reliable kicker would be great.
 

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So let's see your lists! Positions you want to see the Pats address in the off season via FA or Draft. List them in order of importance.

1. WR: Need a speed guy someone to take the top off the D.
2. DT or NT we can't stop the run at all.
3. QB if TB leaves I feel they need a Vet FA and a rookie
4. TE
5. RT
6. S

1) OL: OT, G, maybe C. I forget who is on IR and who may or may not comeback.

2) WR: Or a really good receiving TE that can block. I would take a Gronk or Marty with my 1st pick if he was there. That would lessen the load on the OL as well.

3) DT: Agreed, Big bodied runstopper. Or a hyper athletic DE if there.

4) TE: Or a tall speedster WR.

5) Hybrid S/LB to take over for Chung. He's about spent. McCourty will be back.

6) QB: Only if TB goes. Now, if there or if they could move up to get Eason, and Brady is still here to groom him for a year or so, take him.
 

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So let's see your lists! Positions you want to see the Pats address in the off season via FA or Draft. List them in order of importance.

1. QB - It'll be Tua if he's available at 23, otherwise I hope it's
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Case Cookus, QB, Northern Arizona
Height: 6-5. Weight: 235.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2020): 5-7.


1a. Center - If they don't get a good one in FA
2. TE - If they don't get a good one in FA
3. Safety - Devon may be retiring and Chung should.
4. WR - Big, fast like Metcalf
5. OT - Without a broken wheel
 

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Release Sanu and Harry....


Or is there any hope for these 2?
 

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1. QB - It'll be Tua if he's available at 23, otherwise I hope it's
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Case Cookus, QB, Northern Arizona
Height: 6-5. Weight: 235.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2020): 5-7.


1a. Center - If they don't get a good one in FA
2. TE - If they don't get a good one in FA
3. Safety - Devon may be retiring and Chung should.
4. WR - Big, fast like Metcalf
5. OT - Without a broken wheel

Why are you so amped about Tua? I feel he is as good as he is going to get I think his talents are capped. I like Eason from Washington who may or may not be there at 23.

Plus with Tuas injury history I am real skeptical.
 

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Why are you so amped about Tua? I feel he is as good as he is going to get I think his talents are capped. I like Eason from Washington who may or may not be there at 23.

Plus with Tuas injury history I am real skeptical.
IF and this is a BIG IF he can remain healthy he's a dual threat QB, which The Ravens are proving in this day and age is needed. I think the first NFL hit he takes it will be a career ender so huge risk
 

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Why are you so amped about Tua? I feel he is as good as he is going to get I think his talents are capped. I like Eason from Washington who may or may not be there at 23.

Plus with Tuas injury history I am real skeptical.[/QUOTE

I'm not amped about Tua. BB has a history of going after guys that have a history of injury. His greatest success was Rob Gronkowski. That compelled him to go after others including Isiah Wynn. He drafts them a bit late, they go on IR for a year and then after a year of weight room and training they're ready to play. Personally, I think Tua is small, 6'1" and the knee will slow him down. I like Eason but I also like the kid from Arizona Case Cookus. He's big, strong had a career 60+% completion rate and he can run. Cookus will be there in the 4th or 5th round.
 

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Release Sanu and Harry....


Or is there any hope for these 2?

Maybe Harry will have a few years of decent production as a #2/#3 guy - writing Sanu and that 2nd rounder off. Hopefully BB takes the Rutger's goggles off.
 

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I'm not amped about Tua. BB has a history of going after guys that have a history of injury. His greatest success was Rob Gronkowski. That compelled him to go after others including Isiah Wynn. He drafts them a bit late, they go on IR for a year and then after a year of weight room and training they're ready to play. Personally, I think Tua is small, 6'1" and the knee will slow him down. I like Eason but I also like the kid from Arizona Case Cookus. He's big, strong had a career 60+% completion rate and he can run. Cookus will be there in the 4th or 5th round.
You are too funny. BB has never felt compelled to do anything other than take his daily dump. He's gone after guys with injury history in an attempt to get value from his constant low first round picks. I'm sure he feels he can find guys in other places to make up for the whiffs. If you take in the win of Gronk plus a few others like UDF Butler and UDF Jon Jones, then subtract the whiffs and he still scoring pretty well.
 

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Here are the Patriots picks in the draft...... Does anyone see them actually keeping and using them instead of trading them away (of course assuming the league doesn't take some away)

Round 1 (No. 23)
Round 3 (No. 87)
Round 3 (No. 97) (compensatory pick)
Round 3 (No. 99) (compensatory pick)
Round 4 (No. 122) (via Chicago)
Round 6 (No. 195) (via Atlanta)
Round 6 (No. 205) (via Minnesota)
Round 6 (No. 212) (compensatory pick)
Round 6 (No. 214) (compensatory pick)
Round 7 (No. 230) (via Atlanta)
Round 7 (No. 235) (via Philadelphia)
Round 7 (No. 242) (via Seattle)
 

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According to WALTERS, these are the best TEs available in the 2020 NFL Draft. Are any better than what the Patriots have today??

  1. Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 260.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.67.
    Projected Round (2020): 1-3.

    1/4/20: In 2019, Pinkney had 20 receptions for 233 yards and two touchdowns. A struggling passing attack held him back all season.

    8/17/19: Pinkney was a very good tight end for Vanderbilt in 2018 and one of the most dangerous receiving tight ends in college football. He hauled in 50 passes for 774 yards and seven touchdowns in a breakout season. Pinkney made a big improvement in production from 2017 (22-279-3) and 2016 (22-274-2). He has a good combination of quickness, size and athleticism. While being a receiving mismatch, Pinkney also contributes some as a blocker.
  2. Albert Okwuegbunam*, TE, Missouri
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 260.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2020): 2-3.

    1/4/20: In 2019, Okwuegbunam caught 26 passes for 306 yards and six touchdowns. He is a mismatch weapon for the passing game, but his receiving production was hurt in 2019 by losing Drew Lock to the NFL and having Kelly Bryant replace Lock. Okwuegbunam's blocking looks somewhat improved year over year. Overall, his blocking is average for a receiving tight end. While Okwuegbunam is not a cowardly blocker like some receiving tight ends, Okwuegbunam lacks physicality and doesn't block to his size.

    8/17/19: Okwuegbunam was one of the most dangerous mismatch weapons in college football during 2018, even though Missouri did not always utilize him. When the Tigers did use him, he produced big plays for them via his speed to get down the seam and his size to wall off defenders or make catches over them when they were able to keep him from getting separation. In 2018, he had 43 receptions for 466 yards with six touchdowns. He also missed the last four games with a shoulder injury. Some team sources said that Okwuegbunam is not a bad guy, but he is high maintenance for his coaches.


  3. Colby Parkinson*, TE, Stanford
    Height: 6-7. Weight: 240.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2020): 2-4.

    1/4/20: Parkinson made 48 catches for 589 yards and a touchdown in 2019. He dealt with an injury to starting quarterback K.J. Costello.


  4. Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
    Height: 6-2. Weight: 239.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.60.
    Projected Round (2020): 3-5.

    1/4/20: Bryant was one of the top receiving tight ends in 2019, recording 52 receptions for 825 yards and three touchdowns. In the NFL, Bryant will have to be a rotational receiving tight end as he doesn't have size to be a three-down tight end who contributes as a blocker.

  5. Adam Trautman, TE, Dayton
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 251.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
    Projected Round (2020): 3-5.

    1/4/20: On the year, Trautman had 70 receptions for 916 yards and 14 touchdowns. He earned an invitation to the Senior Bowl.


  6. Matt Bushman, TE, BYU
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 245.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
    Projected Round (2020): 3-5.

    1/4/20: Bushman had 47 catches for 688 yards and four touchdowns in 2019.

  7. Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 248.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.76.
    Projected Round (2020): 3-5.

    1/4/20: In 2019, Breeland totaled 26 receptions for 405 yards and six scores.

    8/17/19: Breeland was a quality receiving tight end in 2018. The junior caught 24 passes for 377 yards and two touchdowns on the season. With Justin Herbert returning, Breeland could produce a huge senior year. As a sophomore, Breeland caught 18 passes for 320 yards and five touchdowns.

  8. Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 245.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
    Projected Round (2020): 3-5.

    1/4/20: Hopkins had 61 catches for 830 yards and seven touchdowns in 2019.


  9. Harrison Bryant, TE, Florida Atlantic
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 240.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
    Projected Round (2020): 4-6.

    1/4/20: Bryant recorded 65 receptions for 1,004 yards and seven touchdowns in 2019. He earned an invitation to the Senior Bowl.

  10. Sean McKeon, TE, Michigan
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 246.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.78.
    Projected Round (2020): 4-6.

    1/4/20: McKeon did not have a prolific 2019 as a receiver, but he played well enough to earn a roster spot at the Senior Bowl. McKeon had 13 catches for 235 yards and two touchdowns on the year. His best season for receiving production came as a sophomore with 31 catches for 301 yards and three scores. McKeon could gain some strength and get consideration as a Y - blocking - tight end in the NFL.

  11. Stephen Sullivan, TE, LSU
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 250.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
    Projected Round (2020): 4-6.

    1/4/20: Sullivan was able to get a Senior Bowl invitation despite not having a big season of production. Entering the National Championship, Sullivan has 12 receptions for 130 yards, but as a junior, he caught 23 passes for 363 yards and two touchdowns. With Ja'Marr Chase, Justin Jefferson, and others it can be hard to get targets, but Sullivan played well enough to have the opportunity to impress team evaluators in Mobile.

  12. Charlie Taumoepeau, TE, Portland State
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
    Projected Round (2020): 4-6.

    1/4/20: Taumoepeau had 36 receptions for 474 yards and two touchdowns in 2019.

    8/17/19: Taumoepeau is a small-school prospect who made it on NFL teams' preseason watch lists. He is an undersized receiving tight end, but he has been productive, including a 2017 season in which he snatched 45 passes for 673 yards and three touchdowns. In 2018, Taumoepeau had 28 catches for 580 yards and five scores.

  13. Josiah Deguara, TE, Cincinnati
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 240.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
    Projected Round (2020): 4-6.

    1/4/20: Deguara is an undersized tight end for the NFL, but he has some h-back potential and was a dangerous receiver for the Bearcats in 2019. Deguara was a red-zone weapon, showing a nose for the end zone and ability to score. He had 39 receptions for 504 yards and seven scores. With his strong senior season as a receiver, Deguara earned an invitation to the Senior Bowl.

  14. Jared Rice, TE, Fresno State
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 230.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.72.
    Projected Round (2020): 4-6.

    1/4/20: Rice had 32 catches in 2019, totaling 307 yards and four touchdowns.

    8/17/19: Rice was a productive receiving tight end for Fresno State in 2018, hauling in 55 receptions for 664 yards and three touchdowns. That was a big jump in production compared to his 2017 season of 22 receptions for 388 yards and two touchdowns. Scouts added him to their preseason watch lists for the 2020 NFL Draft. Rice could use more weight and strength as a blocker for the NFL.

  15. Matthew Wilkerson, TE, Edward Waters
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 270.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
    Projected Round (2020): 5-7.

    1/4/20: Wilkerson is a small-school sleeper who has generated some buzz in the scouting community. For Edwards Waters, Wilkerson showed off a good skill set and played both ways at tight end and defensive end. Wilkerson is said to have good quickness and athleticism to go along with his excellent size. It sounds like Wilkerson will compete at tight end for the NFL. If Wilkerson has a strong performance in an all-star game, he could rise in the leadup to the 2020 NFL Draft.

  16. Devin Asiasi*, TE, UCLA
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 279.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.82.
    Projected Round (2020): 5-7.

    1/4/20: In 2019, Asiasi had 44 receptions for 641 yards and four touchdowns. He started out his collegiate career at Michigan before transferring to UCLA. Asiasi should have returned to UCLA for his senior year.


  17. Mitchell Wilcox, TE, South Florida
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 245.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
    Projected Round (2020): 5-7.

    1/4/20: Wilcox totaled 28 catches for 350 yards and five touchdowns in 2019. Some team sources say that Wilcox could be a Tyler Higbee-type tight end if he manages to stick in the NFL. Multiple sources are projecting Wilcox to the third day of the 2020 NFL Draft.


  18. Charlie Woerner, TE, Georgia
    Height: 6-5. Weight: 245.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.68.
    Projected Round (2020): 5-7.

    1/4/20: Woerner had nine catches for 78 yards in 2019.

    8/17/19: Woerner had 11 receptions for 148 yards in 2018. That came off after little production in 2017 (9-100) and 2016 (5-50). Woerner still made it onto NFL teams' preseason watch lists.

  19. Grant Calcaterra*, TE, Oklahoma
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 221.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.67.
    Projected Round (2020): 5-7.

    1/4/20: Calcaterra notched five catches for 79 yards in 2019. He missed game action with an undisclosed injury.


  20. Rashod Berry*, TE, Ohio State
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 250.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
    Projected Round (2020): 6-FA.

    1/4/20: Berry had two catches for 20 yards in 2019. He missed a lot of time with an injury.

  21. Luke Farrell*, TE, Ohio State
    Height: 6-6. Weight: 250.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
    Projected Round (2020): 6-FA.

    1/4/20: In 2019, Farrell made seven catches for 119 yards and two touchdowns.


  22. Bryce Wolma*, TE, Arizona
    Height: 6-3. Weight: 252.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
    Projected Round (2020): 6-FA.

    1/4/20: Wolma had five catches for 62 yards and a touchdown in 2019.

    8/17/19: Wolma had a solid 2017 season with 28 receptions for 241 yards and two touchdowns. He totaled five catches for 69 yards in 2018, but Arizona anticipates him having a bigger role as a junior.

  23. Cheyenne O'Grady, TE, Arkansas
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 251.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.74.
    Projected Round (2020): 7-FA.

    1/4/20: In 2019, O'Grady notched 33 catches for 372 yards and three touchdowns. Team sources say they gave him a late-round and free agent grades.

    8/17/19: O'Grady went under the radar in the SEC playing for a bad team, but he produced well as a junior given his circumstance, totaling 30 receptions for 400 yards and six touchdowns. He made NFL teams' preseason watch lists.

  24. Daniel Imatorbhebhe, TE, USC
    Height: 6-4. Weight: 250.
    Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
    Projected Round (2020): 7-FA.

    1/4/20: Imatorbhebhe did not play in 2019.

    8/17/19: Imatorbhebhe missed the 2018 season due to a hip injury. He flashed as a freshman with 17 receptions for 250 yards and four touchdowns. His second season didn't go as planned because of his hip injury, which extended into the spring of 2018. Imatorbhebhe started out his collegiate career at Florida before transferring to the Trojans.

 

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This is the latest Salary Cap information. Officially according to this, the Patriots have $42M in cap space. I don't know exactly how much must be set aside for the draft but I assume it must be about $7M.

New England Patriots 2020 Salary Cap
 

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This is the latest Salary Cap information. Officially according to this, the Patriots have $42M in cap space. I don't know exactly how much must be set aside for the draft but I assume it must be about $7M.

New England Patriots 2020 Salary Cap

$30 for Brady and the rest for talent. I kid, I kid... Need to spend that on actual talent (not named Brady). I now only see Brady coming back if Kraft convinced him to take another team friendly deal
 
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