Ben Simmons formally demands trade

[The Q]

i dunno. I mean- I do agree- right now Brown has more value. I think you could squeeze extra out of the Sixers

but seems that Tatum and Brown are both pure wings. HAving a guy like Simmons next to Tatum makes more sense to me than Brown.

And it sure doesnt look like the Brown/TAtum pairing is so successful that it cant be broken up.

Unless that extra stuff rhymes with Taxi, it shouldn’t be a consideration

 

[flyerhawk]

Yeah. They’re being flipped

What do you think the picks in the harden and holiday deals are??

Getting 4 firsts is a better deal than what holiday went for but less than harden.

It gives you the ammo if a beal or dame want out at the TD or this summer.

That only makes sense if the pick next year is a sure fire lottery pick and unprotected.

Harden was a very different situation.

I know a lot of folks here feel that Morey has no choice but to dump him at the trade deadline but that really isn't the case.

 

[thunderc]

That only makes sense if the pick next year is a sure fire lottery pick and unprotected.

Harden was a very different situation.

I know a lot of folks here feel that Morey has no choice but to dump him at the trade deadline but that really isn't the case.

Nope, they can just keep fining his ass. That’s what I hope happens.

 

[flyerhawk]

Nope, they can just keep fining his ass. That’s what I hope happens.

And ultimately, Morey realizes that he needs to get the most value that he can from Simmons. Which is why he was trying to get Simmons to come back and play. Not because he really thinks that he could stay but rather because it's easier to trade a guy that was on a highlight reel for a big dunk than a guy playing Warzone.

 

[The Q]

That only makes sense if the pick next year is a sure fire lottery pick and unprotected.

Harden was a very different situation.

I know a lot of folks here feel that Morey has no choice but to dump him at the trade deadline but that really isn't the case.

No it doesn’t. Again, look what those deals were.

You’d have comparable ammo to a harden and jrue deal. You could easily have 5-6 picks (including some of your own) at your disposal to make that big swing when someone else inevitably gets unhappy

 

[flyerhawk]

No it doesn’t. Again, look what those deals were.

You’d have comparable ammo to a harden and jrue deal. You could easily have 5-6 picks (including some of your own) at your disposal to make that big swing when someone else inevitably gets unhappy

Sure but how long would that take?

I guess the Sixers could take 4 1sts and some filler. But that would mean that the team is giving you a pick 2028. That isn't going to wow a lot of GMs.

 

[mannyz]

Guys that don’t actually watch Cov think he’s an elite 3 and D guy. He gets stats as an off the ball defender but when you need him to lock down the team’s best scorer he gets exposed and cooked. The Sixers have been there and done that. They already maximized that asset. Time to move on.

When he played for the 6ers years ago, I could not wait for them to get him off the floor. You are absolutely right. I have watched almost every game over the past 5 years, Covington was not a money player. There were times, but not enough times.

 

[WiggyRuss]

And ultimately, Morey realizes that he needs to get the most value that he can from Simmons. Which is why he was trying to get Simmons to come back and play. Not because he really thinks that he could stay but rather because it's easier to trade a guy that was on a highlight reel for a big dunk than a guy playing Warzone.

Halliburton, Barnes, and a 1st round pick from the Kings?

Still think Jaylen Brown for Simmons and some stuff makes a lot of sense for both teams.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I wonder why the Cavs are still in on Simmons and what they are willing to give up for him.

Obviously they are not giving up Garland or Mobley. Allen makes no sense with Embiid in Philly.

Markkenen's shooting has been important- not sure if trading him and Okoro and a pick or two (even if philly wants that) makes too much sense.

id deal Sexton, Love and some picks- but with SExton hurt that has to be out.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I wonder why the Cavs are still in on Simmons and what they are willing to give up for him.

Obviously they are not giving up Garland or Mobley. Allen makes no sense with Embiid in Philly.

Markkenen's shooting has been important- not sure if trading him and Okoro and a pick or two (even if philly wants that) makes too much sense.

id deal Sexton, Love and some picks- but with SExton hurt that has to be out.

Could be just bad rumors bc it doesn't even make sense. I mean Okoro doesn't play Ben Simmons level of defense but he is pretty damn good. Offensively even in the last 5 games he's had more of a jumpshot than Simmons has in his entire career. Love with Tobias Harris doesn't make a whole lot of sense...if Sexton was healthy that is the only thing that makes sense. Not sure how Simmons would fit into the lineup unless Markkenen was somehow involved in the trade but then you lose a guy that can spread that floor at the 3. If the Cavs drafted Green instead of Mobley then I could see the fit...but now, not a chance unless it was case where the Sixers had little to few options a year from now or some situation like that.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Halliburton, Barnes, and a 1st round pick from the Kings?

Still think Jaylen Brown for Simmons and some stuff makes a lot of sense for both teams.

No way the Sixers accept a deal from the Kings that doesn't involve Hield or Fox

 

[fightinfunbags]

No way the Sixers accept a deal from the Kings that doesn't involve Hield or Fox

Disagree. The Barnes Halliburton deal fits Philly better. Kings won’t deal Fox and Sixers already have a Buddy Hield in Seth Curry.

 

[flyerhawk]

Disagree. The Barnes Halliburton deal fits Philly better. Kings won’t deal Fox and Sixers already have a Buddy Hield in Seth Curry.

Honestly, I think that Fox is a bit redundant for the Sixers now that Maxey has stepped up. Not saying that Maxey is as good or better than Fox but not sure we have a great need for him. We need a distributor that can create their own shot.

 

[Gman]

No way the Celtics are trading Jaylen Brown in a potential Simmons deal...

... (and no way are the 76ers trading Simmons to the Celtics without Jaylen Brown being included in the deal).

So... yeah.

 

[The Q]

No way are the Celtics are trading Jaylen Brown in a potential Simmons deal...

... (and no way are the 76ers trading Simmons to the Celtics without Jaylen Brown being included in the deal).

So... yeah.

They should take the picks and salary so they can figure out their own deal.

But they won’t.

 

[bksballer89]

Shocking

 

[The Q]

Could be just bad rumors bc it doesn't even make sense. I mean Okoro doesn't play Ben Simmons level of defense but he is pretty damn good. Offensively even in the last 5 games he's had more of a jumpshot than Simmons has in his entire career. Love with Tobias Harris doesn't make a whole lot of sense...if Sexton was healthy that is the only thing that makes sense. Not sure how Simmons would fit into the lineup unless Markkenen was somehow involved in the trade but then you lose a guy that can spread that floor at the 3. If the Cavs drafted Green instead of Mobley then I could see the fit...but now, not a chance unless it was case where the Sixers had little to few options a year from now or some situation like that.

Consider sextons knee injury is just a meniscus, it’s a pretty minor deal.

The real question is if Philly is willing to take him when he does miss most of the year (it’s a bizarrely long time for such a minor injury).

But sexton mark and okoro is a pretty legit starting point.

Idk if you can fit Rubio into the deal in some form.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Consider sextons knee injury is just a meniscus, it’s a pretty minor deal.

The real question is if Philly is willing to take him when he does miss most of the year (it’s a bizarrely long time for such a minor injury).

But sexton mark and okoro is a pretty legit starting point.

Idk if you can fit Rubio into the deal in some form.

I don't know how Rubio would get minutes with this current Sixers roster.

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Shocking

 

[Shanemansj13]

Consider sextons knee injury is just a meniscus, it’s a pretty minor deal.

The real question is if Philly is willing to take him when he does miss most of the year (it’s a bizarrely long time for such a minor injury).

But sexton mark and okoro is a pretty legit starting point.

Idk if you can fit Rubio into the deal in some form.

Yeah that would be too much for the Cavs to give up for a guy that won't shoot. Mark is 24, Sexton is 22 and Okoro is 20 and we have yet to see the best from Okoro and possibly Mark with the Cavs. They lose depth...if Simmons could shoot or even willing to shoot his value would be extremely high. I could also make the case if Okoro for example were to to middle out and be a decent 3 point shooter he is a better fit in CLE than Simmons.

Now, if we are talking about giving a package like that to N.O. for Ingram, absolutely.