Ben Roethlisberger

[Superbelt]

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[FaCe-LeE-uS]

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Isn’t the term “pay cut” misleading though if they up the bonuses?

 

[Superbelt]

Isn’t the term “pay cut” misleading though if they up the bonuses?

Yup, I'm still skeptical on this.

He did what they want of lowering the cap hit this year, but there is still plenty of mystery for what happens in future years.

 

[SteelersPride]

Might have to move up to get him. He's been projected as high as #6 to the Eagles lately.

Dear god no. The not so good analysts and media folk have him high. The ones ive always looked to, and have uner better track records, are laughing at his stock.

 

[Bridgeburner]

Don’t be fooled. As we’ve mentioned before, this restructure is all about spreading out the cap hit. He’s not taking a pay cut. Even if his base pay is less it doesn’t mean they didn’t just roll that change into a bonus to soften the cap hit.

I took what you posted as a pay cut from what he was still owed to 14M.

If it's a restructure that has other years its not really a one year deal.

 

[Bridgeburner]

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This is what I was ecpecting.

 

[RaZon]

Look at his 2020 numbers compared to his other seasons, what is the problem? 65 comp%, 3800 yards, 33-10 TD/INT, a 94 QB rating. What is the problem?

Do what it takes to keep this future HOFer around next season.

They do need a speed RB, Conner more of a thumper. Give Ben a guy with some jets he can dump off to. Where is Fast Willie Parker when ya need him?

 

[Superbelt]

Look at his 2020 numbers compared to his other seasons, what is the problem? 65 comp%, 3800 yards, 33-10 TD/INT, a 94 QB rating. What is the problem?

Do what it takes to keep this future HOFer around next season.

They do need a speed RB, Conner more of a thumper. Give Ben a guy with some jets he can dump off to. Where is Fast Willie Parker when ya need him?

Ben can still play. Just not at the price he was set for. And not to the level we were accustomed to pre-elbow surgery.

He lost a bit of zip and power. But he can still QB. The team didn't do him ANY favors this year. Constant drops, a garbage O-Line and a nonexistent run game.

Too much of the passing offense was just an extension/replacement for a run game. It was hair pullingly frustrating. And Ben isn't the kind of guy who can bail them out like he used to.

He needs a competent run game, and needs to take a step back in leadership (and a few steps under center).

 

[SteelersPride]

Ben can still play. Just not at the price he was set for. And not to the level we were accustomed to pre-elbow surgery.

He lost a bit of zip and power. But he can still QB. The team didn't do him ANY favors this year. Constant drops, a garbage O-Line and a nonexistent run game.

Too much of the passing offense was just an extension/replacement for a run game. It was hair pullingly frustrating. And Ben isn't the kind of guy who can bail them out like he used to.

He needs a competent run game, and needs to take a step back in leadership (and a few steps under center).

Yep, thats the problem with only looking at the box scorezzz

 

[RaZon]

Ben can still play. Just not at the price he was set for. And not to the level we were accustomed to pre-elbow surgery.

He lost a bit of zip and power. But he can still QB. The team didn't do him ANY favors this year. Constant drops, a garbage O-Line and a nonexistent run game.

Too much of the passing offense was just an extension/replacement for a run game. It was hair pullingly frustrating. And Ben isn't the kind of guy who can bail them out like he used to.

He needs a competent run game, and needs to take a step back in leadership (and a few steps under center).

I can't add much to that, you pretty much nailed it. Bottom line is Ben has a couple years left with a few adjustments.

They do need another RB, Conner not the answer.

 

[Superbelt]

If they aren't starting Ben, they are starting Mason or Dwayne. And they would STILL be paying Ben at least 23 million dollars on the cap.

I like our prospects much better with a declining HOFer than with never was/willbees.

Mason Rudolph does not spark joy.

 

[Wamu]

So the same day the Steelers decide to keep BigBen around for the '21 season Baker Mayfield goes to the social medias to say he saw a UFO. Baker Mayfield almost certain he saw a UFO fly over Texas.

 

[thedddd]

If they aren't starting Ben, they are starting Mason or Dwayne. And they would STILL be paying Ben at least 23 million dollars on the cap.

I like our prospects much better with a declining HOFer than with never was/willbees.

Mason Rudolph does not spark joy.

The only positive for Mason over Ben.

Mason gets hot girlfriends.
Ben is not trusted near women's bathrooms.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

The only positive for Mason over Ben.

Mason gets hot girlfriends.
Ben is not trusted near women's bathrooms.

Would Mason be able to pull that tail without his status & paychecks though?

 

[SteelersPride]

Would Mason be able to pull that tail without his status & paychecks though?

Better ask T.

 

[thedddd]

Would Mason be able to pull that tail without his status & paychecks though?

Oh without a doubt he wouldn’t.

 

[shopson67]

Dear god no. The not so good analysts and media folk have him high. The ones ive always looked to, and have uner better track records, are laughing at his stock.

Oh, I agree. QBs typically do get taken too early though. He may be the hardest one to judge, given his wealth of options at Alabama. How many upcoming and future 1st round picks were on that offense? I'm not sure he's really much more than a borderline starter/backup.

 

[SteelersPride]

Oh, I agree. QBs typically do get taken too early though. He may be the hardest one to judge, given his wealth of options at Alabama. How many upcoming and future 1st round picks were on that offense? I'm not sure he's really much more than a borderline starter/backup.

Exactly! I dunno... that team is flat loaded.... id be curious how many make it to the nfl .

 

[shopson67]

So the same day the Steelers decide to keep BigBen around for the '21 season Baker Mayfield goes to the social medias to say he saw a UFO. Baker Mayfield almost certain he saw a UFO fly over Texas.

That was just one of those Jewish spaceships armed with lasers to zap those Texan windmills out of service.

 

[shopson67]

I can't add much to that, you pretty much nailed it. Bottom line is Ben has a couple years left with a few adjustments.

They do need another RB, Conner not the answer.

They still have McFarland who I think deserves increased opportunity.