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[thedddd]

Yeah, as we know...the more success you have on the field, the more challenging it gets to sustain it....FA, Draft, Waiver Wire.. all designed with the intent to help the weaker teams the most.

When CLE starts picking in the late teens to the 20s for 3 or 4 yr in a row, and contract renewals come along for a lot of those high draft picks...they have about a 3 yr window to max out on their past failures (benefits of being a losing team) before things get a lot harder.

Oh without a doubt. I think that helped the Falcons a few years back and the exposure of being avg comes through even though they have a better QB.
The positive for Cleveland is the fact they have Mayfield but their WR core will need to be upgraded because Landry is good but not the #1 and Perriman is still a gamble. The lower picks will hurt they ability to get the top DB's, WR's, DT's.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Oh without a doubt. I think that helped the Falcons a few years back and the exposure of being avg comes through even though they have a better QB.
The positive for Cleveland is the fact they have Mayfield but their WR core will need to be upgraded because Landry is good but not the #1 and Perriman is still a gamble. The lower picks will hurt they ability to get the top DB's, WR's, DT's.

ATL...had probably the worst injury impacted season I've seen in a long time. So I think they get a pass on this season, but your'e right. Those lean yrs, they got the LT (top 10) and the SS I think was top 15 or so, Beasley was top 5 maybe.

CLE...Dorsey has to be feeling great about Mayfield who I would not have taken and still think he will see some tough times, but this kid can play. They will be in the middle of the draft this year...we'll have to see what they do...Agree on your WR take.

 

[Superbelt]

Boswell to IR.

No idea why. Wonder if they are going to try and say it was some season-long lingering issue.

 

[SteelersPride]

Boswell to IR.

No idea why. Wonder if they are going to try and say it was some season-long lingering issue.

if it was lingering all season then the coaches and training staff need fired.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

AFCN Final 2018 Recap

After all 16 were played.

1. BAL...10-6, The only dbl digit Win team, deserving to win the North
2. PIT...9-6-1, the preseason favorite comes up short, in the end, the week one tie came back to bite them.
3. CLE...7-8-1, big strides were made in a CLE, even the final game, they had a shot.
4. CIN...6-10, I'm sure most fans in CIN thought a team from OH would finish last, but not them...is this it for Marvin Lewis? Injuries for sure, but the DEF was the worst they've had in some time.

 

[CB3UK]

Marvin Lewis and Mike Brown meeting tomorrow to discuss future.

 

[cincygrad]

All signs point to Marvin leaving.... But we've all seen this movie before. I expect him back unless we hear differently today.

 

[Superbelt]

Holy shit, Brown fired Marvin.

I'm truly shocked that cheapass would give away a penny.

 

[Superbelt]

Browns looking to hire Mike McCarthy.

That should leave Greg Williams with a bad taste in his mouth.

Hire him, and let him pick his entire defensive staff. And tell Tomlin to butt the fuck out and focus on the terrible overall job he's doing.

 

[cincygrad]

Shocked to see Marvin go..... I think Bengals fans will remember him fondly after a few years pass. The early years of Marvin were really exciting and we were on the cusp for a few seasons though. Ultimately, the guy that grew up in Pittsburgh just couldn't beat the Steelers..... Particularly when it mattered.

 

[TheBurgh88]

Cheers Cincygrad! We will fight you guys for the cellar dwellers of the AFC North.

At least your ownership finally made the change at the top. The Rooneys are too loyal to make a change even though we are quickly becoming the laughingstock of the NFL. Half of the drama in the NFL resides in Pittsburgh.

 

[cincygrad]

Cheers Cincygrad! We will fight you guys for the cellar dwellers of the AFC North.

At least your ownership finally made the change at the top. The Rooneys are too loyal to make a change even though we are quickly becoming the laughingstock of the NFL. Half of the drama in the NFL resides in Pittsburgh.

Meh.... Pittsburgh never stays down long. You guys are lucky to be fans. As for the Bengals.... I've seen this movie before - I hope the ending is different. They need to make real change.

 

[SteelersPride]

Meh.... Pittsburgh never stays down long. You guys are lucky to be fans. As for the Bengals.... I've seen this movie before - I hope the ending is different. They need to make real change.

I was thinking today
Bmore young qb and great d
Cleveland we all know is coming
Cincy had 18 guys on Ir.
Pittsburgh is a trainwreck

 

[cincygrad]

Tough exit for the Ravens yesterday. The game raises an interesting point for the division and rest of the league. The Chargers were playing Lamar Jackson for the second time and they largely stopped everything the Ravens wanted to do on offense until the late scores in 2-minute offense. The defenses in the league often adjust to unique systems/talent and then the offense has to adjust as well. You can bet other AFC teams will be watching film of what the Chargers did to limit Lamar Jackson and that offense and it will be up to the Ravens to come up with something new.

I think Jackson is a good prospect and I suspect he's going to be very good.... But he's going to have to become a better downfield passer if that offense is going to take them anywhere.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Tough exit for the Ravens yesterday. The game raises an interesting point for the division and rest of the league. The Chargers were playing Lamar Jackson for the second time and they largely stopped everything the Ravens wanted to do on offense until the late scores in 2-minute offense. The defenses in the league often adjust to unique systems/talent and then the offense has to adjust as well. You can bet other AFC teams will be watching film of what the Chargers did to limit Lamar Jackson and that offense and it will be up to the Ravens to come up with something new.

I think Jackson is a good prospect and I suspect he's going to be very good.... But he's going to have to become a better downfield passer if that offense is going to take them anywhere.

I thought Harbaugh/Morningweg did a poor job of gameplanning the playoff game. It's almost as if they expected to beat the Chargers using the same scheme as the reg season.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Tough exit for the Ravens yesterday. The game raises an interesting point for the division and rest of the league. The Chargers were playing Lamar Jackson for the second time and they largely stopped everything the Ravens wanted to do on offense until the late scores in 2-minute offense. The defenses in the league often adjust to unique systems/talent and then the offense has to adjust as well. You can bet other AFC teams will be watching film of what the Chargers did to limit Lamar Jackson and that offense and it will be up to the Ravens to come up with something new.

I think Jackson is a good prospect and I suspect he's going to be very good.... But he's going to have to become a better downfield passer if that offense is going to take them anywhere.

You bring up a good point on the future of defending Jackson...no question he's going to have to be a better downfield passer, but they also need to give the kid some short easy passes and rely less on him running.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Tough exit for the Ravens yesterday. The game raises an interesting point for the division and rest of the league. The Chargers were playing Lamar Jackson for the second time and they largely stopped everything the Ravens wanted to do on offense until the late scores in 2-minute offense. The defenses in the league often adjust to unique systems/talent and then the offense has to adjust as well. You can bet other AFC teams will be watching film of what the Chargers did to limit Lamar Jackson and that offense and it will be up to the Ravens to come up with something new.

I think Jackson is a good prospect and I suspect he's going to be very good.... But he's going to have to become a better downfield passer if that offense is going to take them anywhere.

You bring up a good point on the future of defending Jackson...no question he's going to have to be a better downfield passer, but they also need to give the kid some short easy passes and rely less on him running.

I honestly think that will always be Jackson's downfall. It's almost as if he's programmed to always want to run. Looking at his pocket presence, he tends to flee before he gives himself a chance to climb up the pocket. They can try to teach him, but I'm thinkin that fleeing option will almost always win out in his progressions.

Terrell Pryor 2.0.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

I honestly think that will always be Jackson's downfall. It's almost as if he's programmed to always want to run. Looking at his pocket presence, he tends to flee before he gives himself a chance to climb up the pocket. They can try to teach him, but I'm thinkin that fleeing option will almost always win out in his progressions.

Terrell Pryor 2.0.

I think Vick was worse actually and Marty Morningweg/Andy Reid actually got Mike to play the QB position more as a passer than anyone. Of course he was beat up more then as well.

That said, the fact that he's so good at running that he can even fool himself to think it will work long term...that's the danger with Jackson.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

I think Vick was worse actually and Marty Morningweg/Andy Reid actually got Mike to play the QB position more as a passer than anyone. Of course he was beat up more then as well.

That said, the fact that he's so good at running that he can even fool himself to think it will work long term...that's the danger with Jackson.

Yep. And like you said, the quick pass will need to be developed in order to give him better pocket chemistry.

Side note... You think Baltimore will shell out the contract to Mosley or tag him? I read that BAL may have north of $30m in space after the cap increase this offseason.

 

[ATL96Steeler]

Yep. And like you said, the quick pass will need to be developed in order to give him better pocket chemistry.

Side note... You think Baltimore will shell out the contract to Mosley or tag him? I read that BAL may have north of $30m in space after the cap increase this offseason.

BAL...I think the Ravens have 4 guys on DEF that are big snapcount players 30 or older. This guy is only 26 iirc...I think you almost have to sign him.