Are we really this Bad

[gkekoa]

You may be right about this one. The problem really was one of concern over our ability to treat mass amounts of critically ill in a short period of time. Our health care system couldn't handle the project load. Fortunately, other than isolated areas such as NYC, this concern appears to not be coming to fruition. Is this a result of our shutting down everything? Who knows. I guess it had to help, but we may never know how much. Unless, of course, we restart the country and the cases take off again. Then we will know.

Would it have turned out much different had the elderly and at risk simply quarantined themselves and everybody else lived their lives? The numbers are staggering for the elderly but those numbers quickly tail off the younger you get. We could have easily allowed the Us economy to remain open, stop foreign travel, and been able to take care of the sick. Instead, we have large swaths of people who were sick or had treatable conditions postpone surgeries and treatments that will likely kill them. In the meantime, I believe it was Mayo Clinic that just laid off 3000 hospital workers because they were not needed.

 

[skinsdad62]

Actually, there is a good chance it will happen. There are over 90 companies working on a vaccine right now (they smell the money). Quite a few show significant promise. It is not unrealistic to think that we may have a vaccine by the end of the year. The problem will then be production. We will need around 500-750M units to reach the herd immunity. And much like the traditional flu, the vaccine will most likely have to be altered yearly to address the annual mutation.

point being having a vaccine shouldnt be the sole factor that determines whether there are games or not . the economy cant take the hit for a virus in which all the models were way the hell wrong and death rates with new data coming in at 0.3 % certainly doesnt justify keeping things closed . put masks on people , gloves if needed and have at it . if you are compromised stay at home

 

[Stakesarehigh]

As an OSU fan Fields is a better bet than Haskins long term imo

 

[Niner Outlaw]

With Rivera on board, that D is going to be ok at worst, but the offense, particularly the OL and QB are the big issues. If the O doesn't develop, then the Skins could have a top 3 pick, and even if you miss on Lawrence, I'd take Fields in a second over Haskins.

 

[skinsdad62]

With Rivera on board, that D is going to be ok at worst, but the offense, particularly the OL and QB are the big issues. If the O doesn't develop, then the Skins could have a top 3 pick, and even if you miss on Lawrence, I'd take Fields in a second over Haskins.

the offense will struggle , hence i look at a 5 win season .

 

[gkekoa]

Defense and run the ball.

Our defense should be top shelf.

Offensively, we averaged 23.7 points per game over Haskins last 6 starts, all after the bye week.

If we average 23.7 points per game this season, because let’s be honest, we shouldn’t be worse offensively, we will win at least 9 games.

 

[skinsdad62]

Defense and run the ball.

Our defense should be top shelf.

Offensively, we averaged 23.7 points per game over Haskins last 6 starts, all after the bye week.

If we average 23.7 points per game this season, because let’s be honest, we shouldn’t be worse offensively, we will win at least 9 games.

I can’t see us winning 9 games with our o/line

 

[countryroads316]

I can’t see us winning 9 games with our o/line

only question mark on the o-line is LT the rest is fine and hopefully healthy and ready to go

 

[Breed]

Defense and run the ball.

Our defense should be top shelf.

Offensively, we averaged 23.7 points per game over Haskins last 6 starts, all after the bye week.

If we average 23.7 points per game this season, because let’s be honest, we shouldn’t be worse offensively, we will win at least 9 games.

So you see absolutely no dropoff even though the offense we'll be running is different than last year?

 

[gkekoa]

I can’t see us winning 9 games with our o/line

Is the OL different than last year? I expect it to be better honestly. Scherff had a bad season and should be better. Moses had a bad year and hopefully is better now that he is healthy.

 

[Sportster 72]

I think the line might be at least as good as last year. I too am hoping Moses and Scherff play better. There should be more options at WR and RB. The two unknowns are Haskins and Turner. Will be interesting to see.

 

[Breed]

The two unknowns are Haskins and Turner. Will be interesting to see.

Yeah, how will they mesh together is a big question. An even bigger question is when will hey get the opportunity to mesh. And not just those two The entire offense needs work together. Moreso than anyone else though. Haskins needs to be working on this new offense Turner is going to instill and I'm not speaking about working on zoom or syke.

The Rona is a helleva monkey wrench that's been thrown in the mix. Watching white house briefings and listening to experts, Dr Fauci and non-experts, Mark Cuban....I think we're gonna have a very long road to hoe and I can't say I'm feeling real confident about it as it pertains to the season starting on time. And even if the season does start on time. I think its gonna look like something we've never seen before.

 

[Buffalo_Nickel_1]

Stay Healthy = playoffs

 

[skinsdad62]

Yeah, how will they mesh together is a big question. An even bigger question is when will hey get the opportunity to mesh. And not just those two The entire offense needs work together. Moreso than anyone else though. Haskins needs to be working on this new offense Turner is going to instill and I'm not speaking about working on zoom or syke.

The Rona is a helleva monkey wrench that's been thrown in the mix. Watching white house briefings and listening to experts, Dr Fauci and non-experts, Mark Cuban....I think we're gonna have a very long road to hoe and I can't say I'm feeling real confident about it as it pertains to the season starting on time. And even if the season does start on time. I think its gonna look like something we've never seen before.

and with that you have to expect low growth and perhaps a year longer to see what he and the offense really are

 

[gkekoa]

So you see absolutely no dropoff even though the offense we'll be running is different than last year?

I can see where the offense could be worse, but I don’t really understand how.

last year, under Haskins, with an interim HC on death row, we averaged nearly 24 PPG. Our best and most important players follow:

Haskins- year 2 of the NFL with improvements the whole way in his stint. He now has stability.

Guice- looked great prior to his injury when finally given the chance. Maybe better than great because he was averaging around 8 YPC over his last two.

TMAC- year 2 with year one opening my eyes to him. Fantastic.

Scherff- AP but played like shit last year. Will obviously be much better or somehow just became shit overnight.

Moses- played like shit last season; however, he is capable of being at least d3cent. Supposedly fully healthy after what was probably bad advice on his ankles.

Do we really think there is a worse offense to run that one run by Bill Callahan game plans? I am not sure it is possible to be worse in this regard.

 

[Breed]

I can see where the offense could be worse, but I don’t really understand how.

Lack of reps is the first thing that comes to mind. Particularly for Haskins.

last year, under Haskins, with an interim HC on death row, we averaged nearly 24 PPG. Our best and most important players follow:

Didn't Callahan tailor some things for Haskins or at the least, simplified the offense. RR might not be so inclinded and/or depending on what type of season the NFL has, a shortened one perhaps,

Haskins- year 2 of the NFL with improvements the whole way in his stint. He now has stability.

During a normal season, sure. This is not shaping up to be a normal season though.

Guice- looked great prior to his injury when finally given the chance. Maybe better than great because he was averaging around 8 YPC over his last two.

Guice has played in 5 games in 2 years and has never had more than 14 touches rushes/receptions in a game. All he's really proven is that he can get hurt.

TMAC- year 2 with year one opening my eyes to him. Fantastic.

TM had a very good season. I'm hopeful as well that he builds upon it.

Scherff- AP but played like shit last year. Will obviously be much better or somehow just became shit overnight.

Moses- played like shit last season; however, he is capable of being at least d3cent. Supposedly fully healthy after what was probably bad advice on his ankles.

I'm hopeful as well about Scherff n Moses, but both have been hot n cold during their careers

Do we really think there is a worse offense to run that one run by Bill Callahan game plans? I am not sure it is possible to be worse in this regard.

The offense will need to practice the offense at some point. I've already stated some concerns in post #32. Right now I'm hopeful things work out. I'd love everything to work out as you've layed it out though.

 

[gkekoa]

Lack of reps is the first thing that comes to mind. Particularly for Haskins.

Didn't Callahan tailor some things for Haskins or at the least, simplified the offense. RR might not be so inclinded and/or depending on what type of season the NFL has, a shortened one perhaps,

During a normal season, sure. This is not shaping up to be a normal season though.

Guice has played in 5 games in 2 years and has never had more than 14 touches rushes/receptions in a game. All he's really proven is that he can get hurt.

TM had a very good season. I'm hopeful as well that he builds upon it.

I'm hopeful as well about Scherff n Moses, but both have been hot n cold during their careers

The offense will need to practice the offense at some point. I've already stated some concerns in post #32. Right now I'm hopeful things work out. I'd love everything to work out as you've layed it out though.

A lack of reps is a very good point, but Haskins did not have those reps anyways until he became the starter.

Callahan did simplify it. Is that a good thing? Does it make the offense better or simply more limited and predictable?

Guice is a question mark but you can’t count on injuries.

Scherff was cold last season. He is a perennial AP. Moses has apparently been fighting injuries on bad medical advice.

Going simply by what we know, there is no reason to believe our offense won’t be better, our defense will be better, and we should win more.

 

[Ruzious]

Our projected wins are 5.5 next season. Nobody else is below 6.5. So... yeah, the perception is we pretty much suck badly until proving otherwise. And yeah, please leave the virus talk out of these threads.

 

[skinsdad62]

5-6 wins is what I see

 

[Shanemansj13]

With Rivera on board, that D is going to be ok at worst, but the offense, particularly the OL and QB are the big issues. If the O doesn't develop, then the Skins could have a top 3 pick, and even if you miss on Lawrence, I'd take Fields in a second over Haskins.

IDK they are already pretty loaded with Ohio St players. Having a starter and backup QB as former Buckeyes...they will probably need to change their name to the Washington Buckeyes