Are the Browns assisting Watson to

[Manster7588]

I thought it may have been this - NFL isn't directly in control of the length of the suspension.

And I have some land in Florida for sale.

 

[dtgold88]

And I have some land in Florida for sale.

They are not "directly in control". They will be heard and likely have some influence but the judge can do what she likes if she chooses to on her initial ruling.

There's plenty of land in FL for sale FYI, so not sure yours is anything special.

 

[Manster7588]

They are not "directly in control". They will be heard and likely have some influence but the judge can do what she likes if she chooses to on her initial ruling.

There's plenty of land in FL for sale FYI, so not sure yours is anything special.

I diagree with that statement.

Understanding the NFL's new process for imposing discipline under Personal Conduct Policy - ProFootballTalk

The more things change, the more they stay the same.In 2020, the NFL and NFL Players Association agreed to make real changes to the manner in which discipline is imposed under the Personal Conduct Policy. As a potential suspension of Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson continues to loom, it’s...

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All the new CBA rwally did was give the NLFPA a say in who investigates an issue

 

[dtgold88]

I diagree with that statement.

Understanding the NFL's new process for imposing discipline under Personal Conduct Policy - ProFootballTalk

The more things change, the more they stay the same.In 2020, the NFL and NFL Players Association agreed to make real changes to the manner in which discipline is imposed under the Personal Conduct Policy. As a potential suspension of Browns quarterback Deshaun Watson continues to loom, it’s...

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All the new CBA rwally did was give the NLFPA a say in who investigates an issue

Correct...so they are not "directly in control".

 

[Cincyfan78]

Correct...so they are not "directly in control".

You did not read the article:

"The Commissioner, or his hand-picked designee, continues to have full authority over the appeal. Based on the language of the policy, the Commissioner has broad powers when it comes to reviewing, revising, or reversing the Disciplinary Officer’s decision: “The decision of the Commissioner or his designee, which may overturn, reduce, modify or increase the discipline previously issued, will be final and binding on all parties.”

 

[Manster7588]

You did not read the article:

"The Commissioner, or his hand-picked designee, continues to have full authority over the appeal. Based on the language of the policy, the Commissioner has broad powers when it comes to reviewing, revising, or reversing the Disciplinary Officer’s decision: “The decision of the Commissioner or his designee, which may overturn, reduce, modify or increase the discipline previously issued, will be final and binding on all parties.”

I did read it.
It says if the discipline officer/group say no punishment the commissioner cannot over rule that, but if discipline is warranted the Commissioner has full authority to do as he pleases.


That said, if any discipline whatsoever is imposed by the Disciplinary Officer (including, presumably, even a fine), the Commissioner has the power to “modify or increase” the punishment to whatever he wants it to be.

Thus, the Commissioner continues to have full and final say over all discipline under the Personal Conduct Policy. The Commissioner’s powers become short-circuited only if/when the Disciplinary Officer concludes that the player should experience no discipline. If any discipline is imposed, the Commissioner can change it in any way that he wants. With no appeal rights beyond that.

 

[Cincyfan78]

I did read it.
It says if the discipline officer/group say no punishment the commissioner cannot over rule that, but if discipline is warranted the Commissioner has full authority to do as he pleases.


That said, if any discipline whatsoever is imposed by the Disciplinary Officer (including, presumably, even a fine), the Commissioner has the power to “modify or increase” the punishment to whatever he wants it to be.

Thus, the Commissioner continues to have full and final say over all discipline under the Personal Conduct Policy. The Commissioner’s powers become short-circuited only if/when the Disciplinary Officer concludes that the player should experience no discipline. If any discipline is imposed, the Commissioner can change it in any way that he wants. With no appeal rights beyond that.

And since we all know he's going to get SOMETHING - the Commish is going to have full control over just how long that is...

(wasn't sure, but I was referring to DT in that quote, not you - unless you were just expounding upon what I said...in that case, we agree...LOL)

 

[Manster7588]

And since we all know he's going to get SOMETHING - the Commish is going to have full control over just how long that is...

(wasn't sure, but I was referring to DT in that quote, not you - unless you were just expounding upon what I said...in that case, we agree...LOL)

Oops I'm sorry, I thought I was replying to dt.

I need another drink.

 

[jarntt]

If Goodell controls the appeal he basically controls the final suspension. It's kind of BS and another example of the NFLPA being bent over.

 

[Manster7588]

If Goodell controls the appeal he basically controls the final suspension. It's kind of BS and another example of the NFLPA being bent over.

Really the only thing Goodell doesn't control is if a player warrants discipline or not.

 

[Cincyfan78]

Oops I'm sorry, I thought I was replying to dt.

I need another drink.

All good...It's 5 O'clock somewhere!!

 

[jarntt]

Really the only thing Goodell doesn't control is if a player warrants discipline or not.

And the original suspension

 

[NWPATSFAN]

It's no big deal.

Hey, maybe you can come up with another lie to exaggerate your baseless opinion?

Keep telling the other 64+ QBs, coaches and FOs that it's not important to attend mandatory camps.

You are some kind of special. Now strap on that neat helmet of yours and get ready for the bus. You don't want to be late.

 

[Manster7588]

I'll say this about Baker being excused from MANDATORY Mini Camp.

The injury excuse is just an excuse, if the team planned on Baker taking any snaps, they'd of had him in camp just to watch practice and read plays.

 

[Schmoopy1000]

I'll say this about Baker being excused from MANDATORY Mini Camp.

The injury excuse is just an excuse, if the team planned on Baker taking any snaps, they'd of had him in camp just to watch practice and read plays.

Well 98% of us already knew he wasnt gonna play for the Browns.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Well 98% of us already knew he wasnt gonna play for the Browns.

So true, but the 2% have been loud and proud claiming they aren't swayed by emotion and only look at things logically and the rest of us have a agenda. It's sort of surreal.

 

[NWPATSFAN]

I'll say this about Baker being excused from MANDATORY Mini Camp.

The injury excuse is just an excuse, if the team planned on Baker taking any snaps, they'd of had him in camp just to watch practice and read plays.

Sorry but the subject matter expert on this calls bs.

Minicamp in June is NOT important.

Just ask @comedygold88.

You'll have to listen to a diatribe of nonesense but he'll eventually stop spinning and tell you so.

Got to love this forum.

 

[Manster7588]

And the Answer to the OPs question, is YES

King: Deshaun Watson's 'Rigged' Browns Contract Doesn't Sit Well with NFL, 31 Owners

Not onlywas the six-game suspension for Deshaun Watson considered to be too light of a punishment, many were One influential NFL person told me on this trip...

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[HaroldSeattle]

And the Answer to the OPs question, is YES

King: Deshaun Watson's 'Rigged' Browns Contract Doesn't Sit Well with NFL, 31 Owners

Not onlywas the six-game suspension for Deshaun Watson considered to be too light of a punishment, many were One influential NFL person told me on this trip...

www.google.com

 

[Schmoopy1000]

no you didnt you lie.
The only one that was correct this whole time was DTgold because he said everything under the sun.

You are a liar he told me.
You are a liar that lies to other liars..........so ok. I think that means you knew it.