Another Blind Test

[OnlyCrimson]

A blind test showing current opponents rank in parenthesis and margin of victory

 

[Smart]

A blind test showing current opponents rank in parenthesis and margin of victory
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(No Actual Numbers)

I think you took the blind part of blind test too literally.

 

[tech_iceman]

huh

 

[OnlyCrimson]

That poll took a little longer to create than I expected

and I used the cbssports poll

 

[KansasSooner]

You do realize MOV was removed from the BCS computer rankings...some said it forced teams to run up the score in order to move up in the computer rankings.

 

[OnlyCrimson]

I realize that and I agree that it should be removed from the BCS computer rankings. Using MOV was the most practical way I could think of to compare how well a team played against their currently ranked opponent and I really wanted to show a complete list of teams played with their current ranking.

 

[NDHoosier101]

Damn, team D has played the best three opponents...badasses. SOS>MOV

 

[OnlyCrimson]

Damn, team D has played the best three opponents...badasses. SOS>MOV

Team D average opponent rank 41.33

Team C average opponent rank 50

Team B average opponent rank 54 (does not include the NR)

Team A average opponent rank 57.75 (does not include the NR)

Team D has played a little better sos but its not as huge of a difference as most people would actually think.

 

[NDHoosier101]

Team D average opponent rank 41.33

Team C average opponent rank 50

Team B average opponent rank 54 (does not include the NR)

Team A average opponent rank 57.75 (does not include the NR)

Team D has played a little better sos but its not as huge of a difference as most people would actually think.

Why would you not include the NR teams? They should at least count as 125th.

 

[OnlyCrimson]

Why would you not include the NR teams? They should at least count as 125th.

I almost did that but I didn't know if it would truly be fair so I omitted them.

Here you go:

Team B average opponent rank 61.88

Team A average opponent rank 65.22

 

[uncfan103]

Team D average opponent rank 41.33

Team C average opponent rank 50

Team B average opponent rank 54 (does not include the NR)

Team A average opponent rank 57.75 (does not include the NR)

Team D has played a little better sos but its not as huge of a difference as most people would actually think.

Its skewed though...Mississippi State shouldnt be considered a better win than Michigan. Mississippi State's wins are of mid-major caliber.

 

[NDHoosier101]

Team D's opponent's are on average ranked 8.77 spots higher than Team C's, 20.55 spots higher than Team B's, and 22.99 spots higher than Team A's. That seems like a big deal to me...

 

[OnlyCrimson]

Its skewed though...Mississippi State shouldnt be considered a better win than Michigan. Mississippi State's wins are of mid-major caliber.

In this cbssport poll that I used

Mississippi ST = 27

Michigan = 21

 

[OnlyCrimson]

Team D's opponent's are on average ranked 8.77 spots higher than Team C's, 20.55 spots higher than Team B's, and 22.99 spots higher than Team A's. That seems like a big deal to me...

Could be but the difference between Team D's 41.33 compared to Team C's 50 is not that big of a deal to me. In my opinion once you get into the 40's and 50's its like comparing Missouri to Arkansas ST.

 

[uncfan103]

In this cbssport poll that I used

Mississippi ST = 27

Michigan = 21

Duh, oops.

Anyway, if you look at each game individually:
Team D has the best win
Team D has the 2nd best win
Team D has the 3rd best win
Team D has the 4th best win
Team D has the 5th best win
Team D has the 6th best win
Team D has the 7th best win
Team C has the 8th best win
Team D has the 9th best win

 

[uncfan103]

Could be but the difference between Team D's 41.33 compared to Team C's 50 is not that big of a deal to me. In my opinion once you get into the 40's and 50's its like comparing Missouri to Arkansas ST.

Doesn't this hurt your argument? Because that is saying Alabama really only has 3 good wins while Notre Dame has 5?

 

[MarkOU]

Oregon

KSU

Alabama

Notre Dame

Not that blind of a test!

 

[OnlyCrimson]

Doesn't this hurt your argument? Because that is saying Alabama really only has 3 good wins while Notre Dame has 5?

I'm not trying to pimp Bama's schedule, I am a Bama fan and I'm realistic. Our schedule has been pathetic compared to what it usually is. I'm just not sold on ND schedule has being as tough as proclaimed. Wins over Army, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan ST, Miami, BYU and Pittsburg (three of them by only 3 points) does not impress me at all.

As I see it ND has played two good teams, Stanford (they actually lost if the refs were not blind) and Oklahoma. Alabama has played one good team, LSU.

 

[MarkOU]

I'm not trying to pimp Bama's schedule, I am a Bama fan and I'm realistic. Our schedule has been pathetic compared to what it usually is. I'm just not sold on ND schedule has being as tough as proclaimed. Wins over Army, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan ST, Miami, BYU and Pittsburg (three of them by only 3 points) does not impress me at all.

As I see it ND has played two good teams, Stanford (they actually lost if the refs were not blind) and Oklahoma. Alabama has played one good team, LSU.

I would take KSU schedule over NDs up to this point. If they beat Texas, overall they played the tougher road compared to Notre Dame.

Oregon's is just bad, its going to hurt them, especially since the south division winner is going to probably not even be ranked.

 

[NDHoosier101]

I'm not trying to pimp Bama's schedule, I am a Bama fan and I'm realistic. Our schedule has been pathetic compared to what it usually is. I'm just not sold on ND schedule has being as tough as proclaimed. Wins over Army, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan ST, Miami, BYU and Pittsburg (three of them by only 3 points) does not impress me at all.

As I see it ND has played two good teams, Stanford (they actually lost if the refs were not blind) and Oklahoma. Alabama has played one good team, LSU.

We played Navy not Army. Also, as I've said many times, if that Stanford running back had scored it would have sent the game into another OT. Stanford would not magically have won the game...thankfully he didn't score so it doesn't matter. Plus ND had scored 17 of our 20 points in the 4 th quarter and OT, I would have liked our chances going into another OT session.