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Andrew Luck signed thru 2021

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I think all QBs should be judge on one play. That's what I call deep analysis.

Shit happens. Most of his plays are better than that really important one.
 

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I should have grabbed the second post in this thread with...

In before wildly insecure Patriots fans and @eaglesnut...
 

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Tom Brady is the 6th wealthiest player in the history of the NFL. His situation is extremely unusual.

A. He's extremely marketable and will be as long as the Patriots are relevant and he's playing.

B. The legacy he's working on will ensure he's extremely marketable long after his playing days are over.

C. His wife makes more than he does.

He doesn't need to command top dollar right now and the Patriots are reaping the benefits. It actually benefits him personally in the long run to not take take dollar now.

Nice theory... except he has had a history of making room and taking less over the years.

Perhaps he understands not to be so greedy with cap % so that he & the team can be successful?
 

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Nice theory... except he has had a history of making room and taking less over the years.

Perhaps he understands not to be so greedy with cap % so that he & the team can be successful?

It is a risk for a player but it is one that can pay off big time. The more successful the team the more opportunities beyond football the player has to make up for lost income. Companies don't exactly want to throw huge money at a player on a losing organization. Now some players can transcend that like Calvin Johnson but for most players it does help tremendously to be on a winning organization. So it definitely makes some sense to take a little less to give your team the best shot. Throw in it does then help win fan appreciation for that player to look so selfless. So good image boost while most likely still making just as much money.
 

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Nice theory... except he has had a history of making room and taking less over the years.

Perhaps he understands not to be so greedy with cap % so that he & the team can be successful?

It's not a theory, it's a fact. When you add up his contracts and endorsements, he's the 6th wealthiest player in the history of the NFL. He understands that his team being successful will bring in more money for him in the long-term. His brand is unbelievable. He knows what he is doing and there's nothing wrong with it. Make no mistake about it though...it benefits himself just as much as it benefits the Patriots.
 

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Perhaps he understands not to be so greedy with cap % so that he & the team can be successful?

BTW...you couldn't sound like a bigger fanboy with this comment. Yes...he's giving away millions upon millions of dollars and all for Patriots' fans. Ohhh Tom Brady...you're the bestest in the whole wide world!!! #heart emoji
 

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It is a risk for a player but it is one that can pay off big time. The more successful the team the more opportunities beyond football the player has to make up for lost income. Companies don't exactly want to throw huge money at a player on a losing organization. Now some players can transcend that like Calvin Johnson but for most players it does help tremendously to be on a winning organization. So it definitely makes some sense to take a little less to give your team the best shot. Throw in it does then help win fan appreciation for that player to look so selfless. So good image boost while most likely still making just as much money.

No doubt, his early success has afforded him the luxury of being magnanimous, while Luck is still establishing himself.
 

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Nice theory... except he has had a history of making room and taking less over the years.

Perhaps he understands not to be so greedy with cap % so that he & the team can be successful?


Nah, I've never seen money available or money spent on something truly define great teams.

The Colts last year were spending more of their cap than anyone on that dumpster fire of a defense. Pats were bottom 5.

If you can draft well and pick good FA's you are fine. If you can't you tend to do poorly. If you draft and hit FA like the Ravens and Saints have the past 5 or so years, you aren't winning a lot of games even if you get an extra 5 mil a year.
 

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Haha this is exactly what I was thinking. Beyond Luck that team just doesn't have much that should get you excited. They have some WR talent, a good Corner, and now a couple nice pieces on the OL but otherwise nothing that should scare any team in the league beyond Luck.

Depth won't matter. Luck has incentives in his contract for blocking on the O-line before he drops back to pass.
Shouldn't have any trouble pancaking a few defensive ends before he drops back to pass......
 

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As a Colts fan it's great to see Luck locked up. Let's hope we can get enough talent with the team to win the Super Bowl during the life of this contract.
 

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Depth won't matter. Luck has incentives in his contract for blocking on the O-line before he drops back to pass.
Shouldn't have any trouble pancaking a few defensive ends before he drops back to pass......

Ahhh good point. I forgot about his ability to replicate himself and man every position on the offense.
 

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As a Colts fan it's great to see Luck locked up. Let's hope we can get enough talent with the team to win the Super Bowl during the life of this contract.

It's a no-brainer signing and great for the Colts organization. Even Irsay couldn't screw up that one.
 

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It's a no-brainer signing and great for the Colts organization. Even Irsay couldn't screw up that one.
For all the academic handwringing that goes into paying QB's as seen in this thread- it's pretty much a no brainer. Many of the organizations paying significant money to QB's actually win more than those that don't which kind of flies into the face of some of the folks insisting the QB must be cheap in order to win. Some of that is survivor bias (average-good QB's get paid, bad ones like Sanchez do not) but it's worth noting nonetheless.

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Quarterback salary as a percentage of the salary cap
 

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For all the academic handwringing that goes into paying QB's as seen in this thread- it's pretty much a no brainer. Many of the organizations paying significant money to QB's actually win more than those that don't which kind of flies into the face of some of the folks insisting the QB must be cheap in order to win. Some of that is survivor bias (average-good QB's get paid, bad ones like Sanchez do not) but it's worth noting nonetheless.

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Quarterback salary as a percentage of the salary cap

This is a great argument (with both sides having valid points) for fans to have. What some on here fail to remember (not talking about you) is that every NFL organization is a business. SB talk aside, Luck is a goldmine for the Indianapolis Colts and will continue to be so.
 

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This is a great argument (with both sides having valid points) for fans to have. What some on here fail to remember (not talking about you) is that every NFL organization is a business. SB talk aside, Luck is a goldmine for the Indianapolis Colts and will continue to be so.

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