Albert Pujols tops list of MLB's biggest albatrosses

[Omar 382]

Coming from the guy whose hit with facts and resorts to "stick to hockey" rather than producing anything of value.

Is your family proud? Or written you off completely?

I did produce something of value. 3 years >50 million dollars is better than 6 years and 165 million. Do you disagree?

 

[mr.hockey4242]

I did produce something of value. 3 years >50 million dollars is better than 6 years and 165 million. Do you disagree?

So what you are saying. Is no matter what you want to pay a player less money and less years. Regardless of how bad he is?

So in "Omar's world" let's give Nick Punto 3 years and 12 mil over giving Mike Trout 10 years 300 mil. Because hey, Puntos his cheaper

Thank fucking Christ you ain't running a baseball team any time soon.

 

[Omar 382]

So what you are saying. Is no matter what you want to pay a player less money and less years. Regardless of how bad he is?

So in "Omar's world" let's give Nick Punto 3 years and 12 mil over giving Mike Trout 10 years 300 mil. Because hey, Puntos his cheaper

Thank fucking Christ you ain't running a baseball team any time soon.

Except that Trout is on track to be the greatest baseball player of all time, whereas Pujols and Nolasco both suck

 

[mr.hockey4242]

My turn.

Would you rather have a cleanup hitter with 40 homers and 95 RBI(28/105 year before)

Or

A opening day starter with a 6.75 ERA in only 37 innings(5.33 in 160 year before)

???

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Except that Trout is on track to be the greatest baseball player of all time, whereas Pujols and Nolasco both suck

But the thing you conveniently keep missing is its not just the contract. It's the production AND the contract.

Only 1 guy is actually contributing. While both have horseshit contracts. It really is that simple.

 

[Omar 382]

You do realize that Nolasco had a 3.51 FIP and 0.7 WAR in 37.1 IP last year? Or do you not know what that means?

 

[Omar 382]

My turn.

Would you rather have a cleanup hitter with 40 homers and 95 RBI(28/105 year before)

Or

A opening day starter with a 6.75 ERA in only 37 innings(5.33 in 160 year before)

???

You act as if this year is the only year that matters

 

[Omar 382]

In the last three years, Pujols has less than a win more than Nolasco

 

[mr.hockey4242]

You act as if this year is the only year that matters

Uhh considering I provided two years alone idk how you came to that conclusion.

If you are goin to overpay at least over pay for a guy who is going to post decent stats.

Idk about you but I don't want a guy with a 5.33 era as his peak in my rotation. Do you?

I'd love a 40 and 95 though.

So might as well overpay for something I love than something I hate.

 

[Omar 382]

Uhh considering I provided two years alone idk how you came to that conclusion.

If you are goin to overpay at least over pay for a guy who is going to post decent stats.

Idk about you but I don't want a guy with a 5.33 era as his peak in my rotation. Do you?

I'd love a 40 and 95 though.

So might as well overpay for something I love than something I hate.

LOL at you using stats I used when I was 9. ERA, HR, RBI... lol

 

[mr.hockey4242]

LOL at you using stats I used when I was 9. ERA, HR, RBI... lol

So for the record. You would not want 40 homers and 95 RBI in your lineup?

And are ok with paying for 2 years not even 200 innings and a era of 5.50?

Just let me be clear

 

[Omar 382]

So for the record. You would not want 40 homers and 95 RBI in your lineup?

And are ok with paying for 2 years not even 200 innings and a era of 5.50?

Just let me be clear

I'd take a guy with a FIP projected to be around 3.80 than a guy with an OBP around .300- yes

 

[mr.hockey4242]

I'd take a guy with a FIP projected to be around 3.80 than a guy with an OBP around .300- yes

So you will take a "projection" aka a fantasy over what really happen?

I'm starting to see the problem here.

 

[Omar 382]

So you will take a "projection" aka a fantasy over what really happen?

I'm starting to see the problem here.

Just stop

 

[mr.hockey4242]

Just stop

I really haven't started.

In short. Omar is a guy who enjoys over paying for a faulty product that hurts in both production and money. He also prefers to base his life on projections and ignore reality which allows Omar to always live the life he desires rather than the one he's got.

Good for you man!!

 

[StanMarsh51]

So what you are saying. Is no matter what you want to pay a player less money and less years. Regardless of how bad he is?

So in "Omar's world" let's give Nick Punto 3 years and 12 mil over giving Mike Trout 10 years 300 mil. Because hey, Puntos his cheaper

Thank fucking Christ you ain't running a baseball team any time soon.

The obvious difference is that giving Trout a 10 year deal today wouldn't run until he's 41 (as with Pujols), and he's not in a decline (whereas Pujols was already declining when the deal was given).

Giving someone a big deal when they're about to (or already have) exit their prime is much different than giving the big deal when they're still in their prime and perhaps haven't peaked yet.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

The obvious difference is that giving Trout a 10 year deal today wouldn't run until he's 41 (as with Pujols), and he's not in a decline (whereas Pujols was already declining when the deal was given).

Well yeah. Punto is retired lol.

But he asked a question that specifically said only the money and year values. Not the age or anything.

Heavily imply that the better route it to always go less regardless of performance.

 

[Fountain City Blues]

I'd take a guy with a FIP projected to be around 3.80 than a guy with an OBP around .300- yes

Well, in Nolasco's case he has significantly underperformed what his projections and peripherals predict his ERA ought to be since 2009. Considering that's a span that includes 3 different teams, there's reason to believe he is exactly what his ERA says he is: A bad pitcher on a club that can't take many bad contracts

 

[Omar 382]

Well yeah. Punto is retired lol.

But he asked a question that specifically said only the money and year values. Not the age or anything.

Heavily imply that the better route it to always go less regardless of performance.

Not at all what I said/implied

 

[Omar 382]

Well, in Nolasco's case he has significantly underperformed what his projections and peripherals predict his ERA ought to be since 2009. Considering that's a span that includes 3 different teams, there's reason to believe he is exactly what his ERA says he is: A bad pitcher on a club that can't take many bad contracts

Yeah I said he's a bad pitcher.