AL East Thread

[navamind]

Kennedy's had a better career than I thought he did. I kind of thought he had those two really good years and then faded into obscurity. I forgot he was on the Royals and had a really good 2016 there

 

[chappee11]

IPK!

He was lights out for about a month in 2007

Good times.

Never figured Kennedy would be the one out of the “BIG 3” Hughes, Kennedy, Joba group to have the longest career.

 

[redseat]

Never figured Kennedy would be the one out of the “BIG 3” Hughes, Kennedy, Joba group to have the longest career.

Had no idea Joba is a commentator

Chamberlain now works as a studio analyst on MLB Network and specializes in pitching commentary.

 

[Pure Steel]

Never figured Kennedy would be the one out of the “BIG 3” Hughes, Kennedy, Joba group to have the longest career.

Joba probably still has nightmares about midges…..

 

[redseat]

@Carnzo I was just joking around about Dalbec, Not sure what he did after that homer

 

[Carnzo]

@Carnzo I was just joking around about Dalbec, Not sure what he did after that homer

Thanks an a big sight of relief

 

[redseat]

Thanks an a big sight of relief

I mean he most likely did what I said but I don't know that haha

 

[nynasty]

Never figured Kennedy would be the one out of the “BIG 3” Hughes, Kennedy, Joba group to have the longest career.

That was a hell of a draft

Mark Melancon and David Robertson were in there too

 

[nynasty]

And Betances!

That's probably the best draft of the Cashman era

 

[chappee11]

Joba probably still has nightmares about midges…..

Midges on trampolines.

 

[chappee11]

I mean he most likely did what I said but I don't know that haha

I had to look. Dalbec 1-2 with the homer and a strikeout. If he had batted more than twice, he most definitely would have struck out more.

 

[chappee11]

And Betances!

That's probably the best draft of the Cashman era

Cashman always the master at drafting/developing relievers, but not exactly position players.

 

[nynasty]

Cashman always the master at drafting/developing relievers, but not exactly position players.

Chamberlain and Betances were drafted as starters, but yeah, they mostly seem to end up in the pen eventually.

He seems to like to get his position players in IFA, but outside of Robbie Cano, that hasn't exactly gone terrifically either.

 

[navamind]

Chamberlain and Betances were drafted as starters, but yeah, they mostly seem to end up in the pen eventually.

He seems to like to get his position players in IFA, but outside of Robbie Cano, that hasn't exactly gone terrifically either.

Pitching prospects are a crapshoot.

 

[navamind]

Never figured Kennedy would be the one out of the “BIG 3” Hughes, Kennedy, Joba group to have the longest career.

If nothing else, Phil Hughes does hold the record for single season K/BB (11.63 in 2014). 186/16 K/BB in 209.2 IP, gave up exactly as many home runs as he did walks.

In fact, he gave up more home runs than walks for the rest of his career (63 home runs to 52 walks in 300.2 IP). He had an 80 ERA+.

 

[nynasty]

Pitching prospects are a crapshoot.

TINSTAPP!

 

[nynasty]

If nothing else, Phil Hughes does hold the record for single season K/BB (11.63 in 2014). 186/16 K/BB in 209.2 IP, gave up exactly as many home runs as he did walks.

In fact, he gave up more home runs than walks for the rest of his career (63 home runs to 52 walks in 300.2 IP). He had an 80 ERA+.

But he was a crucial piece out of the pen in their last championship season. He just came in and let it fly.

When he had to pitch 5+ innings is when things got dicey.

 

[navamind]

TINSTAPP!

That's not to say that there aren't teams that are able to develop pitchers well (Cleveland, Mets, Rays come to mind), but it feels like farm systems based around positional players seem to translate much better. Look at the Cubs (most of their World Series rotation came from free agency/trades except for Hendricks), Red Sox (Lester and Buchholz, but most of their rotation came from trades/free agency) and Astros in the last decade or so.

 

[Pure Steel]

But he was a crucial piece out of the pen in their last championship season. He just came in and let it fly.

When he had to pitch 5+ innings is when things got dicey.

We’ll always have Paris and Hughes out of the pen…..

 

[bksballer89]

Voit traded to the Padres but unless im missing something, does not look like we got anyone who can help us this season