A L East 2015 thread

[obxyankeefan]

Jays... in first place... in August?

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That's it I am selling Navamind a pink scanner then I am going to turn into a bird and shit on him.

 

[bksballer89]

The Jays are going to the WS if they keep this up

 

[obxyankeefan]

The Jays are going to the WS if they keep this up

The Jays made some good moves at the deadline, so maybe this year is different. But how many times in the past few years have the Jays looked unbeatable over a two week stretch, only to disappear after?

 

[navamind]

The Jays made some good moves at the deadline, so maybe this year is different. But how many times in the past few years have the Jays looked unbeatable over a two week stretch, only to disappear after?

But have any of the recent (last ~10 or so years) Jays team had a +130 run differential? Nope. This would be their best run differential (by far) since 1993. +130 is really good, especially when there's still one third of the season left to be played.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

Ellsbury's looked awful since coming off the DL. And while the Tex/A-Rod comeback years have been fun to watch, I think there needs to be some caution around them given their ages.

Tex is still doing his thing, though. A-Rod's been less than stellar this month.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

The Jays made some good moves at the deadline, so maybe this year is different. But how many times in the past few years have the Jays looked unbeatable over a two week stretch, only to disappear after?

Except it's not a two week stretch. From the beginning of June until the Tulo trade they were 27-21. Maybe not unbeatable (although a 10 game winning streak is included in there, too) but they were playing at least as well as the other teams in the wild card hunt at the time. The moves, combined with things like putting Sanchez in the bullpen or RA Dickey pitching the way he was 3 years ago, have really made a difference.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Except it's not a two week stretch. From the beginning of June until the Tulo trade they were 27-21. Maybe not unbeatable (although a 10 game winning streak is included in there, too) but they were playing at least as well as the other teams in the wild card hunt at the time. The moves, combined with things like putting Sanchez in the bullpen or RA Dickey pitching the way he was 3 years ago, have really made a difference.

So taking away the 11 game winning streak y'all had in June the Jays were 16-21 heading into the Tulo trade, not very stellar. But as I said in my first post the Jays made moves this year, so maybe this winning streak will be different than past years streaks.

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

So taking away the 11 game winning streak y'all had in June the Jays were 16-21 heading into the Tulo trade, not very stellar. But as I said in my first post the Jays made moves this year, so maybe this winning streak will be different than past years streaks.

Why would you remove a 10 game win streak? Did those games count less or something? Get rid of the Yankees' 7 game win streak at the start of June and they're how many games back of the Jays right now?

 

[obxyankeefan]

Why would you remove a 10 game win streak? Did those games count less or something? Get rid of the Yankees' 7 game win streak at the start of June and they're how many games back of the Jays right now?

because didn't your 27-21 record start with an 11 game win streak. Which would mean that between the win streak and the Tulo trade the Jays would have a 16-21 record.

If my memory is wrong and the streak was in the middle than my logic is bad.

 

[mr.hockey4242]

The clear help provided by Tulo and Price makes it a little had to say "I knew it".

But I've been saying all year the Jays would take control. That run differential just had to help out eventually.

 

[BGDave]

Hey BBB, don't sweat obxyankeefan. Pity him. He has Kessel now

 

[Bloody Brian Burke]

because didn't your 27-21 record start with an 11 game win streak. Which would mean that between the win streak and the Tulo trade the Jays would have a 16-21 record.

If my memory is wrong and the streak was in the middle than my logic is bad.

That may not be great, but it's still not exactly "disappear after". They were 3 games back of the WC when they traded for Tulo, and every metric (BaseRuns, Pyth, run diff) showed that the Jays were better than they were showing. They wouldn't have been able to catch the Yankees without the trades but there was a good shot they'd compete for the WC.

 

[obxyankeefan]

That may not be great, but it's still not exactly "disappear after". They were 3 games back of the WC when they traded for Tulo, and every metric (BaseRuns, Pyth, run diff) showed that the Jays were better than they were showing. They wouldn't have been able to catch the Yankees without the trades but there was a good shot they'd compete for the WC.

True and in the first two post I admitted this year is could be different because of the trades.

 

[navamind]

Removing streaks is the epitome of cherry picking.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Removing streaks is the epitome of cherry picking.

And the whole point of my original post is the Jays have a history of being streaky.

 

[navamind]

And the whole point of my original post is the Jays have a history of being streaky.

This is true, but that also has zero predictive value whatsoever.

I know... it's not easy getting used to seeing the Jays in 1st in August. I still haven't wrapped my head around it entirely.

 

[obxyankeefan]

This is true, but that also has zero predictive value whatsoever.

I know... it's not easy getting used to seeing the Jays in 1st in August. I still haven't wrapped my head around it entirely.

I would much rather see the Jays in first then the O's.

 

[navamind]

I would much rather see the Jays in first then the O's.

And the Rays.

I, for one, welcome our Blue Jay overlords.

 

[obxyankeefan]

Getting back to the Yankees slump. First and second with one out, Gardner up, and all I can think is Brett better get a hit if we want to score because A-Rod is going to GIDP.

 

[bksballer89]

Looks like they broke out of the slump tonight....now just hope Miller doesn't blow this game as he did Tuesday night