A.J. Jenkins

[SeattleOspreys]

So which WRs do belong on the week 1 roster?

Are you going to resort to bringing up the last Seahawks SB win?

After Boldin, flip a coin. Do you count 2005?

 

[CakesW]

Like Jamarcus or Kijana Carter were better picks because they played a little, LOL

There are all different Categories of "Worst" All Time first rounders....

Carter goes on the injured category, with the likes of many...

JaMarcus Russell probably goes in to a Financial Disaster category....

Bo Jackson and John Elway go into the "stupid" category - (And there is pretty good reason to say that Bo Jackson was the worst all around First round pick, because he quite frankly told Hugh Culverhouse that he would never, ever play for the Buccaneers ... but Culverhouse drafted him anyway)

Then there is the Talent category, and I think that Andre Johnson, and A.J. Jenkins fall into that category... and that one is pretty harsh, these are guys that are borderline professional football players by ability, that are being selected in the first round. What makes Jenkins so damning...is that Scouting has improved LIGHT years from 1996 when Johnson was drafted. So it's even worse when you factor that it.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

You're clearly a little bit slow, so let me reintroduce you to the conversation we are having in this thread:

If Jenkins is indeed cut...

Would be he in discussion for worst first round draft pick of all time ?

I think it would have to be debated, because of the fact that he drafted, never contributed at all without anything like injuries, holdouts (Bo Jackson) etc...

This would have been a guy that never was able even able to MAKE the team.

Anything is debatable.... including whether or not you are an Arizona Cardinal fan troll showing unusual interest in telling 49er fans how terrible AJ Jenkins is. The difference is that you actually are a troll, trying to get a reaction, and AJ Jenkins isn't even remotely close to the biggest 1st round draft pick of all time (especially considering he was chosen 30th overall which him pretty close to a second round pick).

However, what is far less debatable is the all time greatest free agent bust. And that award goes to Kevin Kolb and his 6 year 65 million dollar contract without ever having done anything in his career.....

Stop deflecting.

I'm not so sure. I've been watching football for a long, long time and I never remember seeing a first round pick who could not even make the game day roster. That's unheard of; especially when two of your receivers went down for the season.

Would you ever consider the idea of not making shit up to fit your agenda?

he played in 3 games last year, so he obviously made the game day roster.

Although there is a guy who was drafted by the Redskins in the first round who actually did not play a single snap for them.

Hey little birdy, who had to whine to me in a private message, had you shown any intelligence or had common sense, you'd have looked up the Tackle like I did in 3 minutes and known it happened in
1996, like I did.

Instead, you tossed it around like it was LAST year. So I ask you again, who gives a rats @$$ what
happened in 1996?

Stay on topic.

AJ Jenkins stinks and should not make it on the 2013 9er roster. Isn't that the real purpose of this
thread?

Yes, it is.... Spin it, divert it, do whatever you do, but look your stat up next time or don't even
bother bringing up something almost 20 years ago...

Wait, I get it now. You bring that up like you do the last 9er SB win... Got it...

See, when people say, "of all time," and "a long, long time" that strongly suggests that they are not talking about last year. Obviously you missed that. I suspect it's because you are an idiot. Three was probably trying to be gracious about it, so he PMed you rather than calling you out in front of the whole board.

Instead of quietly slinking away, as a good troll should do upon being humiliated, you have decided to double down on your stupidity. Congrats. You're officially the dumbest poster on this message board. Now I'm left hoping that you don't actually have an affiliation with UW, cause I don't want to feel dumber by association.

Finally, I'm all for nostalgia. But it shouldn't be one-sided. By all means, let's talk about the last time the Hawks won the super bowl.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

There are 2 questions, you're right about that:

1. What WRs belong on the Niners' roster for week 1.

2. How far ahead of AJ Jenkins is Aaron Curry in the bust race?

AJ will never touch Curry. Curry was a #4 selection and was garbage from jumpstreet.
Add in the $$ and Curry should be in the all time bust category due to hype, too.

I had the Hawks dropping down and taking BRak. I never liked Curry pre-draft. He
could run straight, that's it. Played no one in college, had stiff hips shown in drills, lacked
instincts and couldn't rush the passer because he couldn't turn and burn due to
stiffness.. Curry drove me crazy and was the final dagger in Tim Dumbskull getting canned.

That's why AJ isn't a huge bust. THe guy was the #30 pick in the draft. There are 100's
of worse selections...

 

[CakesW]

There are 2 questions, you're right about that:

1. What WRs belong on the Niners' roster for week 1.

2. How far ahead of AJ Jenkins is Aaron Curry in the bust race?

Problem with including busts like Aaron Curry, is that Curry was actually able to be good enough to earn playing time to get onto the field and prove that he stinks....

Jenkins can't even do that. He's being outpaced by practice squad players on a team that needs WR's badly...

but a good comparison.. although MANY pundits felt that Curry was a top 5 pick. He was rated highly (although not be me) by most experts, because he "looked the part".


I live in Raleigh... watch a bunch of Wake Forsest Football, and he was hardly impressive in a weak sauce ACC. He was not the player that people were claiming to be, and both Osprey and I saw this on film. I didn't understand why they felt he was such a good prospect outside of his measurables...

Jenkins was sort of the same... He really didn't have an impressive career... He had a nice senior season, but... really made his living in TWO games against VASTLY inferior opponents, and after that was basically an average college receiver.... He had nice straight line speed... but he wasn't strong, wasn't big.. and really, kind of a head scratcher.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

You're clearly a little bit slow, so let me reintroduce you to the conversation we are having in this thread:











See, when people say, "of all time," and "a long, long time" that strongly suggests that they are not talking about last year. Obviously you missed that. I suspect it's because you are an idiot. Three was probably trying to be gracious about it, so he PMed you rather than calling you out in front of the whole board.

Instead of quietly slinking away, as a good troll should do upon being humiliated, you have decided to double down on your stupidity. Congrats. You're officially the dumbest poster on this message board. Now I'm left hoping that you don't actually have an affiliation with UW, cause I don't want to feel dumber by association.

Finally, I'm all for nostalgia. But it shouldn't be one-sided. By all means, let's talk about the last time the Hawks won the super bowl.

Birdy PM'd me a couple of weeks ago when I torched Breaker on a topic.

I'm not humiliated at all. If birdy had any sense, he'd have taken 2 seconds to list the guys name and the year he was drafted. It sounded like he was referring to last season. Don't you believe that's appropriate when you're trying to corroborate your opinion? I'd say yes, that's how we roll on the Hawks board.

That is why I called BS. That's nothing to be humiliated about when he couldn't list the guys name or the year he was talking about. All birdy said was some guy from the Redskins. Some guy?

Common sense says AJ isn't the worst draft pick because he was drafted at #30.

I don't care what anyone else said in the thread, I was calling BS on Birdy saying the Skins which he wasn't specific on and I took it as last year. BFD... You're making a big deal over that? really?

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Problem with including busts like Aaron Curry, is that Curry was actually able to be good enough to earn playing time to get onto the field and prove that he stinks....

Jenkins can't even do that. He's being outpaced by practice squad players on a team that needs WR's badly...

but a good comparison.. although MANY pundits felt that Curry was a top 5 pick. He was rated highly (although not be me) by most experts, because he "looked the part".


I live in Raleigh... watch a bunch of Wake Forsest Football, and he was hardly impressive in a weak sauce ACC. He was not the player that people were claiming to be, and both Osprey and I saw this on film. I didn't understand why they felt he was such a good prospect outside of his measurables...

Jenkins was sort of the same... He really didn't have an impressive career... He had a nice senior season, but... really made his living in TWO games against VASTLY inferior opponents, and after that was basically an average college receiver.... He had nice straight line speed... but he wasn't strong, wasn't big.. and really, kind of a head scratcher.

Glad you're on here Cakesw. You saw all of the trash Curry posts prior to the draft and both of us had many discussions that curry was a turd. No one would believe us but it came to reality and those guys arguing are no where to be found.

That is why I don't know how the 9ers are rated so highly. They lack depth and playmakers at the WR position and lack the ballhawking CB's. Kaep better be houdini in 2013...

 

[Crimsoncrew]

Birdy PM'd me a couple of weeks ago when I torched Breaker on a topic.

I'm not humiliated at all. If birdy had any sense, he'd have taken 2 seconds to list the guys name and the year he was drafted. It sounded like he was referring to last season. Don't you believe that's appropriate when you're trying to corroborate your opinion? I'd say yes, that's how we roll on the Hawks board.

That is why I called BS. That's nothing to be humiliated about when he couldn't list the guys name or the year he was talking about. All birdy said was some guy from the Redskins. Some guy?

Common sense says AJ isn't the worst draft pick because he was drafted at #30.

I don't care what anyone else said in the thread, I was calling BS on Birdy saying the Skins which he wasn't specific on and I took it as last year. BFD... You're making a big deal over that? really?

Look, you got confused. The only thing making it a big deal is you lashing out and acting like a little bitch. If you are surprised that, in the context of a conversation about "all-time draft busts," someone mentioned a guy who played 17 years ago without listing his draft year, get ready for a life of disappointment.

 

[SeattleOspreys]

Look, you got confused. The only thing making it a big deal is you lashing out and acting like a little bitch. If you are surprised that, in the context of a conversation about "all-time draft busts," someone mentioned a guy who played 17 years ago without listing his draft year, get ready for a life of disappointment.

Had birdy took just 1 minute to find the guys name and drafted year, it would've continued a normal
conversation. It's that simple and how you corroborate any debate you're ever in. Bring some info and it would've eliminated the confusion.

Time for some

 

[fastforward]

Reasons AJ Jenkins could make the Week 1 roster:

1) His money is guaranteed. Cutting him saves nothing and you have to pay his replacement.
2) The guys at #53 and #54 on the depth chart aren't as likely to be in areas of weakness where depth is needed.
3) The #5 or #6 WR isn't likely to produce much on any team. All the player has to do is be a decoy/threat to prevent the opposition from playing their last string S or LB against him.
4) Since the last WR rarely produces it's probably better to go with someone who has a higher potential upside than someone who is currently better but has reached their peak.
5) Teams are normally healthy at the start of the season so roster spots are less critical. A decision on Jenkins could be delayed a few weeks until injuries kick in and the roster spot is needed.

He may well survive the whole season if he shows some potential and effort.

 

[threelittleturds]

Hey little birdy, who had to whine to me in a private message, had you shown any intelligence or had common sense, you'd have looked up the Tackle like I did in 3 minutes and known it happened in
1996, like I did.

Instead, you tossed it around like it was LAST year. So I ask you again, who gives a rats @$$ what
happened in 1996?

Stay on topic.

AJ Jenkins stinks and should not make it on the 2013 9er roster. Isn't that the real purpose of this
thread?

Yes, it is.... Spin it, divert it, do whatever you do, but look your stat up next time or don't even
bother bringing up something almost 20 years ago...

Wait, I get it now. You bring that up like you do the last 9er SB win... Got it...

I didn't toss anything around like it was last year, you jumped to that conclusion because you're trolling. I simply stated that the Redskins drafted a guy in the first round who never played a snap for them.

As to sending you a PM, yeah, my bad for treating you like a man and asking you to stop arguing with the 49er trolls from ESPN on our board. That is all it was, I find it funny that you see it differently, but trolls tend to just see things with their head up their asses... so, yeah.

What I said to Toby, that you took offense to as a troll was completely on topic. He said that a 1st round draft pick not making the active roster never happened before, I simply stated that it had. For some crazy reason you decided it was BS, I proved you wrong and now you're all upset because you're trying to troll.

As to staying on topic troll, you're the one who keeps blathering about CBs and SB teams instead of the topic of AJ Jenkins. Just trying to find other ways to troll.

 

[CakesW]

Reasons AJ Jenkins could make the Week 1 roster:

1) His money is guaranteed. Cutting him saves nothing and you have to pay his replacement.
2) The guys at #53 and #54 on the depth chart aren't as likely to be in areas of weakness where depth is needed.
3) The #5 or #6 WR isn't likely to produce much on any team. All the player has to do is be a decoy/threat to prevent the opposition from playing their last string S or LB against him.
4) Since the last WR rarely produces it's probably better to go with someone who has a higher potential upside than someone who is currently better but has reached their peak.
5) Teams are normally healthy at the start of the season so roster spots are less critical. A decision on Jenkins could be delayed a few weeks until injuries kick in and the roster spot is needed.

He may well survive the whole season if he shows some potential and effort.

I agree with all these points... however, most #5 or #6 WR's generally contribute on Special teams (they have to) as either a return specialist, or on Punt or Kickoff Return duties...

Jenkins does neither ... that is one of his biggest drawbacks right now.

 

[I_am_1z]

There are 2 questions, you're right about that:

1. What WRs belong on the Niners' roster for week 1.

2. How far ahead of AJ Jenkins is Aaron Curry in the bust race?

Am I overplaying the whole Jenkins against the world notion now? Or must I wait another preseason game before I can really say the 49er fanbase has decided AJ's a bust, as you know I'm really trying to build up this "I told you so", so its got to meet your standards.

 

[tallglassofwater007]

I believe that they took AJ as a project because they didn't think the receiving core was going to be so injured. As you saw, they didn't play James either until the Dolphins game (I think) and he is obviously good enough to play with the big boys. I think Jenkins has the talent to play at this level. Just not sure if he has the brain for it. He came into his rookie camp last season out of shape. He declined to work out with Rice. He runs bad routes. These are mental issues. Not having the right mind for the game. These are things that can be coached. Running routes is an effort skill. If you put in the time, you are going to get better at it. Jenkins will never be considered one of the biggest busts because they took him as a project. If he was a guy they took to try and save the franchise, or turn things around it might be different.

Just an FYI... looking at draft rankings online doesn't really mean shit. What matters is what he was graded on your board. The Rams had him graded in the first round. Mel Kiper and McShay can eat a bag of dicks. They get paid to be wrong 90% of the time.

 

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AJ Jenkins' Preseason Struggles Are Being Blown out of Proportion | Bleacher Report

 

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49ers WRs Conclude Camp in Style

 

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A.J. Jenkins, Mason Crosby among names on NFL bubble - NFL.com

 

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Will A.J. Jenkins have his 'I told you so' moment? | CSN Bay Area

 

[TobyTyler]

A.J. Jenkins, Mason Crosby among names on NFL bubble - NFL.com

This guy is full of shit. The 49ers are not going to cut Asomuagh, especially with Culliver gone.

 

[fastforward]

The Raiders cut Asomugha.
The Eagles cut Asomugha.
If you've got 3 people who look better why keep him since his $1.75M contract isn't guaranteed? If you haven't then you keep him!

 

[NinerSickness]

The Raiders cut Asomugha.
The Eagles cut Asomugha.
If you've got 3 people who look better why keep him since his $1.75M contract isn't guaranteed? If you haven't then you keep him!

1. The Raiders never cut him.
2. The Eagles cut him when he was taking up half the entire salary cap.

And there aren't 3 CBs who look better than he IMO, so I say keep him (especially with Culliver out). Not that preseason means much, but he looked really good against the broncos.

 

[fastforward]

1. The Raiders never cut him.

The Raiders had an option to keep him which they declined to exercise. It's splitting hairs. The Rams had an option to keep Steven Jackson at $7M which they declined to exercise. The Rams gave Jackson the opportunity to decline the deal first so that he could leave without being cut. I'm not an Asomugha fan. I don't see him as a team player, but you go with the best you've got.

 

[Breaker99]

Birdy PM'd me a couple of weeks ago when I torched Breaker on a topic.

This over the top self image you have is amusing.

 

[Crimsoncrew]

The Raiders had an option to keep him which they declined to exercise. It's splitting hairs. The Rams had an option to keep Steven Jackson at $7M which they declined to exercise. The Rams gave Jackson the opportunity to decline the deal first so that he could leave without being cut. I'm not an Asomugha fan. I don't see him as a team player, but you go with the best you've got.

Not when the option was for the higher of the average of the top five QUARTERBACKS or $16.875 million.