8 HOFers NFL Draft : Chat

[UK Cowboy]

either way, ken Anderson is much better than troy aikman... and he doesn't have that HOF label either!!!

Horseshit. Bill Walsh and Mike Holmgren both called Aikman the most accurate passer they'd ever seen. They said in a west coast system, he'd have shattered every record

 

[blstoker]

either way, ken Anderson is much better than troy aikman... and he doesn't have that HOF label either!!!

Well, in my imperfect comaprison (still thinking it needs tweeked after 2 years) I have Ken Anderson at #5 and Troy Aikman at #43. That's not to say that if you switch situations it would have been the same, but it really appears you ticked UK off.

 

[Ritzarmy]

I'll be making some switches after the draft especially after all the great compliments you guys gave for Steve Tasker

 

[UK Cowboy]

Well, in my imperfect comaprison (still thinking it needs tweeked after 2 years) I have Ken Anderson at #5 and Troy Aikman at #43. That's not to say that if you switch situations it would have been the same, but it really appears you ticked UK off.

Just stating facts

 

[Nosferatu]

It was a joke. Me and UK was in on it as well. The joke didn't work as well as planned because your punk ass was nowhere to be found last night!

Well I hope bastids had a good laugh at my expense!

 

[Ritzarmy]

Well I hope bastids had a good laugh at my expense!

We always do

 

[blstoker]

Just stating facts

Stating the fact that it is someone else's opinion, highly respected opinion granted - but opinion none-the-less.

Yes, Aikman was hurt being in the Cowboy system (on a personal accolade way), but the fact that he was willing to play a system that didn't necessarily give him all the accolades in exchange for team success is a plus in his corner IMO.

 

[Nosferatu]

Aikman was an excellent QB he is clearly the best of the big 3! Aikman, Irvin, Emmitt. Aikman had low numbers cuz Emmitt hogged the TD's and they werent behind alot making them throw the ball alot which kept Aikman's yardage totals down!

 

[UK Cowboy]

Stating the fact that it is someone else's opinion, highly respected opinion granted - but opinion none-the-less.

Yes, Aikman was hurt being in the Cowboy system (on a personal accolade way), but the fact that he was willing to play a system that didn't necessarily give him all the accolades in exchange for team success is a plus in his corner IMO.

Don't confuse unselfish with less talented. He could have bitched about his numbers, like most QB's do. The big 3 played hurt and cared about winning

Lets take Warren Moon, and this will sound like a bash, but it's really not. He had as much talent or more as Aikman and didn't win shit. The Oilers were insanely loaded. It's really hard to win one ring, let alone 3 of 4. Thats why, on a separate note, the deflate gate does nothing to take away Brady's greatness, even if he cheated

As you correctly stated, I threw out opinion as fact lol. Guilty

 

[blstoker]

Don't confuse unselfish with less talented. He could have bitched about his numbers, like most QB's do. The big 3 played hurt and cared about winning

I wasn't, actually I think that his numbers (probably more than any other QB) don't justify his ability.

 

[Nosferatu]

ROUND 23
23.1.177 : Ritz : Shane Conlan - ILB
23.2.178 : Jeffro : Pete Johnson - FB
23.3.179 : 500 : William Andrews - FB
23.4.180 : UK : Paul Gruber - LT
23.5.181 : Nos : Warren Moon - QB - HOF
23.6.182 : WLK : Kevin Ross - CB
23.7.183 : Gold : OTC
23.8.184 : Stoke :
ROUND 24
24.1.185 : Stoke :
24.2.186 : Gold :
24.3.187 : WLK :
24.4.188 : Nos :
24.5.189 : UK :
24.6.190 : 500 :
24.7.191 : Jeffro :
24.8.192 : Ritz :

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Horseshit. Bill Walsh and Mike Holmgren both called Aikman the most accurate passer they'd ever seen. They said in a west coast system, he'd have shattered every record

When I said much better, I really just meant for this draft since one is a HOF and one is not... But really they both had similar numbers... but we cant judge on what people have said, I am sure we can find people that have said ken Anderson was the best QB of all time...

Troy aikman does slightly have better career numbers, but Anderson's best season was much better than aikman's best season....

 

[wlk3]

I would also lik to Carnell Lake earned an MVP vote playing CB, Jeffro and I have the only 2 HOF DT's, and I have Payton Rathman and the best Oline in the draft...

 

[UK Cowboy]

Aikman was an excellent QB he is clearly the best of the big 3! Aikman, Irvin, Emmitt. Aikman had low numbers cuz Emmitt hogged the TD's and they werent behind alot making them throw the ball alot which kept Aikman's yardage totals down!

Ha, get off Emmitt lol. I'm gonna say this, you take Barry, give me Emmitt. You'll get the highlights and then make excuses why I got all the rings. Emmitt "Hogged"' TD's(and 1st downs) by ramming into 8-9 man fronts with his little 5'9" self. Barry was enjoying a gatorade while the punt or FG team got ready
Winning. Every game, Emmitt was gaining positive yards. I watched tons of Lions games with Barry. He'd have one of the greatest 60 yard runs you've ever seen, a couple more where he gained 20 by running around 50......oh, and he'd have 7-8 runs of negative where he danced around and lost 4-5 instead of taking the 2-3 that was there. Those 7-8 2nd and 14 instead of 2nd and 7's killed them. But hey, he has exciting lol

 

[Nosferatu]

When I said much better, I really just meant for this draft since one is a HOF and one is not... But really they both had similar numbers... but we cant judge on what people have said, I am sure we can find people that have said ken Anderson was the best QB of all time...

Yeah, his family and friends and people that have never watched an NFL game...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Yeah, his family and friends and people that have never watched an NFL game...

those would be the ones saying it... But my point was just that things will always be said, if their numbers don't back it up then it is just talk...

 

[Nosferatu]

I actually wasn't ripping Emmitt there I was praising Aikman...

 

[Nosferatu]

those would be the ones saying it... But my point was just that things will always be said, if their numbers don't back it up then it is just talk...

Greatness isn't just about numbers...

 

[MilkSpiller22]

Greatness isn't just about numbers...

no, but you cant have it both ways(not saying you)... you cant say winning a superbowl is on the team and not one player, and then throw out the statistics and say aikman is great because of all his championships...

 

[Nosferatu]

Stoke is up for two...