Series Thread: 5) Indiana Pacers vs. 4) Cleveland Cavaliers

[msgkings322]

Also, I didn't get to see much of the game. Went to see Super Troopers 2.

I, like @TurnUpTheHeat was pleasantly surprised as I saw bits of the first half and saw the Pacers were down 17.

I loved Super Troopers 1, was it any good? Most comedy sequels suck ass (like Anchorman 2, Zoolander 2, etc for example)

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

 

[LAD]

 

[Heatles84]

But, Rose only had what, 2 really good season & never won anything but 1 MVP, right? So maybe that's not the best comparison.

Rose had 3 really good seasons. He also won an MVP (that really should've went to Lebron).

You have me lost right now. Because the premise here is that you're crowning Irving already has a HOF player (he's getting there). But if his career were to end tomorrow, he's not getting. Again, during Rose's apex before his knee injuries, people were already saying that Rose would get into the HOF (on his then current pace). But injuries derailed him.

This doesn't need to be a long-winded discussion turned into in-depth science project. Rose had HOF potential but injuries derailed him. Kyrie Irving has HOF potential and has significant injuries in his career. Neither are in the HOF yet, Irving still has a chance. Rose doesn't.

 

[Heatles84]

I loved Super Troopers 1, was it any good? Most comedy sequels suck ass (like Anchorman 2, Zoolander 2, etc for example)

2 was good. It makes fun of Canadians so I'm biased. My best friend is as Canadian as it gets and it hit on so many things where I kept saying "Oh yeah, my fucking French-Canadian douche of a friend does that annoying shit as well".

 

[LAD]

Rose had 3 really good seasons. He also won an MVP (that really should've went to Lebron).

You have me lost right now. Because the premise here is that you're crowning Irving already has a HOF player (he's getting there). But if his career were to end tomorrow, he's not getting. Again, during Rose's apex before his knee injuries, people were already saying that Rose would get into the HOF (on his then current pace). But injuries derailed him.

This doesn't need to be a long-winded discussion turned into in-depth science project. Rose had HOF potential but injuries derailed him. Kyrie Irving has HOF potential and has significant injuries in his career. Neither are in the HOF yet, Irving still has a chance. Rose doesn't.

Well for the record, this was already a long-winded discussion that you joined - so there's that.

Again, my point is this is not a good comparison. Derrick Rose has only played 495 games in his career, while Kyrie has already played 441. Rose was drafted in '08/'09, Irving in '11/'12. That's 3 years difference, and Irving already has the better stat line in EVERY category. Oh, and Kyrie has a ring.

 

[Tai Chi≈Surfing]

Lance Stephenson on the job Bojan Bogdanovic did on offense (30 points) and defending LeBron:

"He did an excellent job. I'll give him an 100 on the test. He did a good job on LeBron and hit open shots. Attacked. We seen he could do that throughout the the season. But for him to do that in the playoffs is amazing. Bogey manned up."

 

[Heatles84]

Well for the record, this was already a long-winded discussion that you joined - so there's that.

Again, my point is this is not a good comparison. Derrick Rose has only played 495 games in his career, while Kyrie has already played 441. Rose was drafted in '08/'09, Irving in '11/'12. That's 3 years difference, and Irving already has the better stat line in EVERY category. Oh, and Kyrie has a ring.

In his apex, Rose never had the opportunity to win a ring. HOF is based on individual credentials for the most part. Rose had a league MVP in his name, Kyrie didn't. Again, before the knee injuries Rose was considered one of the best players in the league and HOF bound.

This really doesn't require another response.

 

[gordontrue]

Turns out George Hill's back kept him out of the 2nd half. I thought it was odd he wasn't out there after such a good 1st half.

 

[Ritzarmy]

@Ritzarmy is making me a sammich for dinner.

Sorry Hun feel asleep before good make that sandwich

 

[gordontrue]

Just watched the postgame stuff. Every single question was fishing the "no help" narrative. LeBron wasn't having it. He handled it well.

 

[flyerhawk]

The Pacers will not win another game in this series.

 

[WiggyRuss]

well that sucked some major ass.

 

[TurnUpTheHeat]

well that sucked some major ass.

Must win tomorrow for Cavs?

 

[flyerhawk]

I don't think we were debating whether his teams were loaded. You specifically said he went to 4 Finals without playing with a HOF'er. Let's stay on topic here.

Kyrie Irving so far has all of one All-NBA award under his belt. A 3rd team award.

How in the world do you think he is a Hall of Famer?

 

[flyerhawk]

And so whom from his era is gonna take his spot? Because that would also be a supporting factor if none of them have better careers, yes?

Steph Curry
Russell Westbrook
James Harden
Chris Paul

All of them are EASILY ahead of Irving in HoF consideration.

 

[Black Adam]

Must win tomorrow for Cavs?

i'd say yes...

 

[Black Adam]

well that sucked some major ass.

LeClown better pull another 40-plus game out of his draws...

 

[trojanfan12]

Korean BBQ rocks but you gotta go bulgogi beef not chicken

I like Bulgogi Beef, but I had a bunch of chicken thighs that I needed to do something with. lol

 

[flyerhawk]

Must win tomorrow for Cavs?

The Cavs could certainly come back from being down 3-1 but it's going to be super hard.