49ers will never win a Superbowl with Colon Keepandrun

[Ties5o11]

Am I missing the way too obvious answer of RW is actually there and Kaepernick will be at home?

Right because the Seahawks defense has nothing to do with that. And Wilson was watching Kaep there last year.

 

[WizardHawk]

Not sure it matters, but I really think Wilson and Kaep are two different players. I think Wilson can throw, but in games I've watched, he seems to be running for his life. His receivers get it, they may have to run around a bit to get open, assuming he's scrambling, as we saw Doug Baldwin do. He seems to make good decisions and seems to go thru his reads. In essence, I think Wilson is a throwing QB who can run, and well at that.

Kaep on the other hand, came from a school where he did throw, not sure how many reads and progressions he was forced to go through. That offense is something completely different than anything Wilson did in college.

I think they're both really good QB's, they simply have different strengths. I'd take either guy to start my team.

We can compare both guys until the cows come home, MOST fans from their respective teams would take their guy over the other.

They both have their strengths and both have weaknesses, but both are still young and learning. Few have ever mastered NFL QB in just two years.

The reason I didn't seriously answer his question is it was the wrong question.

Seattle's weakness on offense is a sub par O line at pass protection. RW spends way too much time breaking from the pocket in under 2 seconds from the snap. He doesn't get the time to work on developing into a quality pocket passer. He is above average on the run, and IMO might have been the best QB in the league out of the scramble this season, but that is because he is forced to do so way too much.

Kaepernick has a strong line. He also has had a better set of receivers to work with over much of the season. Where he struggles is in read progression and early decision making. We don't know if he could scramble and find receivers getting open late in a broken play as he doesn't still look to the pass nearly as often as he could/should, but abandons the pass for his running way too fast.

Wilson on the other hand has been forced into running less and many of us would like to see him back to how he was last year. My gut says his coaches told him to stop taking the running plays as he was getting sacked and knocked down a LOT during the middle of the season when they had several injuries on the line and he literally was running for his dear life every damned play.

Why can RW win the SB where Kaepernick can't? I'm not sure it is true that Kaepernick can't as it depends on how strong the team around him is, but RW for sure can win it based on the same reasons. How the run blocking and Lynch does is far more important than what he does, but he has shown to date that he can make clutch plays late in the game when everything is on the line. Not one of the teams losses this year was because of anything he did wrong or failed to do. That tells you a lot.

 

[WizardHawk]

Right because the Seahawks defense has nothing to do with that. And Wilson was watching Kaep there last year.

You missed the obvious humor there. The question wasn't why can RW win a SB at some point while Kaepernick can't ever win one. The way it was asked deserved the answer of: Because Kaep isn't there to win it and RW is THIS YEAR. Sorry if that wasn't clear enough.

I would argue though that RW was a big part of that win as well as the defense. He had that early fumble after that great play by Smith and outside of that didn't make any mistakes. How about your guy? RW made an outstanding TD pass to Kearse on a 4th and 7 play to give them the lead. He made many other outstanding plays. Kaepernick turned the ball over himself on every possession SF had in the 4th quarter. That's hardly a sign of being clutch.

 

[Louie26]

They both have their strengths and both have weaknesses, but both are still young and learning. Few have ever mastered NFL QB in just two years.

The reason I didn't seriously answer his question is it was the wrong question.

Seattle's weakness on offense is a sub par O line at pass protection. RW spends way too much time breaking from the pocket in under 2 seconds from the snap. He doesn't get the time to work on developing into a quality pocket passer. He is above average on the run, and IMO might have been the best QB in the league out of the scramble this season, but that is because he is forced to do so way too much.

Kaepernick has a strong line. He also has had a better set of receivers to work with over much of the season. Where he struggles is in read progression and early decision making. We don't know if he could scramble and find receivers getting open late in a broken play as he doesn't still look to the pass nearly as often as he could/should, but abandons the pass for his running way too fast.

Wilson on the other hand has been forced into running less and many of us would like to see him back to how he was last year. My gut says his coaches told him to stop taking the running plays as he was getting sacked and knocked down a LOT during the middle of the season when they had several injuries on the line and he literally was running for his dear life every damned play.

Why can RW win the SB where Kaepernick can't? I'm not sure it is true that Kaepernick can't as it depends on how strong the team around him is, but RW for sure can win it based on the same reasons. How the run blocking and Lynch does is far more important than what he does, but he has shown to date that he can make clutch plays late in the game when everything is on the line. Not one of the teams losses this year was because of anything he did wrong or failed to do. That tells you a lot.

Good post Wizard!

I think this year's SB is gonna be as good as it's been in some time. A fantastic defense vs. a fantastic offense.

I also believe that Wilson has as good of an opportunity to win than anyone. I like how cool and collected he is. He has complete control of his huddle and firmly believe his guys believe that at any point in the game, RW can make the play they need! Signs of a great leader, I'm a big fan of RW. Loved him at NC St. and Wisky.

As I've stated, good luck in 2 weeks! Nothing better than seeing your team play in the biggest game of they year!!

 

[Rvnight18]

Cherry picking stats? Showing that Wilson hasn't been playing that well. Why? Probably because he is still a YOUNG QB. He will have bad stretches. Just like all young QBs. Kaep played much better the second half of the year. Not great, but better. Just trying to point out to the OP that Wilson hasn't played well these last 6 weeks or so, and Kaep has played better, and most of those on the road. Of Kaep can't win a Super Bowl, why would RW be able to.

By the way I think RW is capable.

 

[WizardHawk]

The question about those stats isn't always on the QB. Not saying it applies here, but WR's drop passes or tip them to defenders for picks etc.

Kaepernick has a solid pass blocking line to play behind. Wilson does not. Flip the two of them and their stats would be far different. Wilson was without Harvin and Rice all season. Kaepernick was without Crabtree for half the season. Wilson played behind a line that at one point had 3 of its starters out injured and the line hasn't been able to reach early season form to this day. Kaepernick? Not so much.

Yes, it's poaching or at least misinterpreting stats to compare the two directly. Each has arrived at their stats through very different paths. They are not the same type of QB.

I've said I don't think anyone can say Kaepernick can't develop into a top 10 QB in the league. I know many (even a few SF fans) disagree, but he has a lot of upside. With the right coaching he can raise his game. Now is Harbaugh the right guy? I don't know about that. Only time will tell.

Wilson? If he gets back to having at least an average line I'm assuming we go back to seeing the same QB as the second half of last season.

 

[Midnightangel]

I find it hard to believe that Kaep could never win a SB for two reasons:

1) He was one play away from doing it last year.

2) Trent Dilfer won a SB. ANY QB can win a SB if the defense and running game is good enough.