Discussion in 'NBA Basketball Forum' started by bksballer89, Apr 10, 2019.
i disagree with your comparisons. Allen will at least block shots. Gortat of Monroe at this point? They're not slowing down Embiid in any form and would weaken the overall defense. I do feel like Gortat had a nice 18 footer that was annoying.
who is surprised Jimmy Butler got ejected in a playoff game? show of hands?
no one is surprised? no hands?
didnt think so. lol
sometimes i just amaze myself with how fucking smart i am...its just a gift. what can i say?
Butler is a very talented player but i would never pay him market value to be on my team.
If I could get him for 20M a year? absolutely i take him--
but at the 4/140 (at the least) he is going to command? HELL NO. especially with him being 30 at the beginning of next season with a bunch of Thibs Miles on him.
He was protecting his teammate.
See no issue with what he did
You're acting like he is some hot head.
This was the 2nd ejection in his career and only had 8 t's in the last 2 seasons.
Please stop acting like Jimmy is Draymond Green
Neither should have been ejected. In fact, that whole situation was overblown. Embiid was nothing more than a hard foul (he got ball). Neither Dudley nor Butler should have had anything more than technicals.
I think Dudley should have been ejected.
He shoved Embiid to escalate the whole thing, then pulled Simmons into the stands tackling him.
Every call was exaggerated a bit because the officials needed to take control of an increasingly chippy series. They easily could have just called double Ts and kept playing, but they clearly wanted to put everybody on notice before things got more out of hand.
After seeing further replays, the flagrant was soft, but I have no issue with the ejections given everything that was going on.
I guess I am amazed too. But not at how smart you are.
I generally agree that I wouldn't want Butler on a max contract.
But he probably will get paid by somebody this summer.
That said, you are being way too self congratulative here for what was a greatly exaggerated take after game 1.
Jimmy Butler is the Sixers 3rd best player. He is also barely ahead of Tobias Harris as their 4th most efficient scorer of the 5 starters according to true shooting percentage. Jimmy Butler's job is not to be a primary scoring option for this team when it is going well, nor should it be.
So of course the team is going to struggle on a day where Butler is going off and the other 4 guys are virtual no shows. Of course the team is going to play better when all 5 starters are engaged and in the flow. Their 5th leading scorer averaged 16.9 points this year.
In game 1 they had 1 other starter in double figures. Of course they lose that game. But blaming Butler for that game 1 loss, then coming back on here and acting like you were right is insane.
Butler might be their 5th option to score. So him playing his customary role of chipping in with about points, playing solid defense and being a secondary playmaker is what they need from him just about every night. In game 1 they needed him to fill the scoring void because Harris, Simmons and Redick forgot there was a game.
The Sixers need scoring from Harris and Redick. They didn't bring it in game 1. Butler has other ways he contributes to the team.
A team that has Jimmy Butler as a fourth option should be pretty damned good.
I’d like to see Dudley suspended a game. His comments about wishing he hit Embiid harder indicate he’s a complete clown that is likely to do stupid shit again. I’d really prefer to not have an idiot out there looking to take a cheap shot at Embiid.
I think that is a fair point.
But at the same time, Butler and Embiid pretty much said that they will do the exact same thing next time it goes down like this too.
So if Dudley does get suspended, so does Butler.
In that lense, I don't think either should be suspended.
But expect a short leash on all the primary players in this drama for game 5. Simmons included.
And Brett Brown had better be in his players' ear telling them to be above the physical stuff. Because if game 5 is going Philly's way, guess what Dudley is going to do? A similar response could get one or two of the Philly stars a seat on the pine for the next game, which could be devastating.
The thing is, the league takes a dim view on instigators going after stars. Dudley went after the Sixers top 2 stars on the same play. His going after Embiid is one thing. It could be reasonably thought that he was just defending his guy. But his attempts to draw Simmons into a physical confrontation were completely cynical.
I suspect that the league office has made it clear that they will have little tolerance for Dudley, or anyone else, instigating a fight in this match.
Gotta disagree a bit here. Dudley pushed Embiid (although not that hard), then Butler came up and pushed Dudley. I didn't really catch Dudley grabbing Simmons and pulling him down with him, but it's not like Simmons was standing innocently outside the fray and got dragged in.
Simmons was literally standing around, got pushed in the back near Dudley and then Dudley pulled him to the ground while Simmons had his arms outstretched...
Simmons immediately gets back up on his feet and was clearly irritated that Dudley pulled him to the ground.
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