Series Thread: 2nd Round: Philadelphia Sixers vs Atlanta Hawks

[Iggloo]

Exactly.

I'm fine with trading Simmons provided we actually improve the team with the trade.

Draymond Green replacing Ben Simmons does not improve the team. He is an even weaker offensive player who would fit horribly with Embiid. He somehow would have less gravity than Simmons. And he's nearly 10 years older than Simmons.

No one wants Draymond here. My only point is that we may need to shed Ben Simmons, and no pun intended, that may be a process. It may require shedding him for a player we also don't want but whom we can then deal. I of course hope there would be a better option than taking on Draymond and his contract. But I think many of you dramatically overrate the trade market for Ben Simmons. The Sixers have done a very solid job in recent years of finding players in the middle of the first round (Thybulle, Maxey). I would trust Morey to turn draft capital into decent assets.

 

[fightinfunbags]

No one wants Draymond here. My only point is that we may need to shed Ben Simmons, and no pun intended, that may be a process. It may require shedding him for a player we also don't want but whom we can then deal. I of course hope there would be a better option than taking on Draymond and his contract. But I think many of you dramatically overrate the trade market for Ben Simmons. The Sixers have done a very solid job in recent years of finding players in the middle of the first round (Thybulle, Maxey). I would trust Morey to turn draft capital into decent assets.

There are 3 guys in the history of basketball to average 15, 7.5 and 7.5. Luka Oscar Robertson and Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has more value than you’re considering. I think you’re reacting to the reality that Embiid and Simmons skill sets aren’t compliments of each other and both tend to stagnate the other in the half court offense.

 

[Wamu]

Here are the officials for tonight’s game:
Crew Chief - James Capers (Sixers 2-2 with him)
Referee - Kane Fitzgerald (Sixers 3-0 with him)
Umpire - Sean Wright (Sixers 1-0 with him)

I don’t know much about these guys so I’m looking for feedback on what people know about him. Sixers will have a hard time if they let Capela mug Embiid again like he did in Game 1. Embiid didn’t get to the line until their was 7 minutes left in the 4th quarter last game. That can’t happen again. I’m glad Embiid, Doc and Curry planted seeds and may have accepted fines after that Scott Foster led shit show of an officiated game on Friday night.

"sixers will have a hard time if they let Capela mug Embiid again"




Capela (6-10 & 240) was roughing up Embiid (7-0 & 280)? Watched every game of this series and don't recall that happening.

 

[DJ]

If I'm the Sixers, I'm also taking into consideration that I have a new coach in his 1st year with the team. I'm not really a Doc Rivers fan, but he's better than what you had.

I'd give him a full off-season and full training camp to see if he can do something with Simmons before I moved him.

This.

 

[DJ]

There are 3 guys in the history of basketball to average 15, 7.5 and 7.5. Luka Oscar Robertson and Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has more value than you’re considering. I think you’re reacting to the reality that Embiid and Simmons skill sets aren’t compliments of each other and both tend to stagnate the other in the half court offense.

You forgot LeBron James.

Career averages of 25ppg, 7.8apg, and 7.7rpg.

 

[DJ]

"sixers will have a hard time if they let Capela mug Embiid again"




Capela (6-10 & 240) was roughing up Embiid (7-0 & 280)? Watched every game of this series and don't recall that happening.

You miss games 4 and 6 when Embiid struggled from the field?

 

[trojanfan12]

You forgot LeBron James.

Career averages of 25ppg, 7.8apg, and 7.7rpg.

Magic had 19.5 11.2 and 7.2

 

[Iggloo]

There are 3 guys in the history of basketball to average 15, 7.5 and 7.5. Luka Oscar Robertson and Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons has more value than you’re considering. I think you’re reacting to the reality that Embiid and Simmons skill sets aren’t compliments of each other and both tend to stagnate the other in the half court offense.

How many players in the history of the NBA averaged 32.8% at the charity stripe in the playoffs? Hint: Only one, Ben Simmons. The only players to even approximate that low-water mark are all centers. There has never been a starting PG on a playoff team who shot worse than Ben Simmons. None, not Rondo, no one.

These are unreal numbers that make the guy pretty much unplayable in the clutch.

Simmons has missed 45 free throws in 10 playoff games. That’s more than three total teams have missed in their first 10 games of this postseason; Atlanta missed 35, Phoenix missed 29 and Brooklyn missed 22. The Los Angeles Clippers have missed 46, as a team, through 12 games.

Ben Simmons making NBA history with free-throw woes

The Sixers All-Star's struggles from the free-throw line have been heightened in the playoffs.

www.nba.com

 

[DJ]

Magic had 19.5 11.2 and 7.2

Yeah, LOL. Was thinking more recent. Not sure where the person found that stat with just 3. LOL.

 

[DJ]

How many players in the history of the NBA averaged 32.8% at the charity stripe in the playoffs? Hint: Only one, Ben Simmons. The only players to even approximate that low-water mark are all centers. There has never been a starting PG on a playoff team who shot worse than Ben Simmons. None, not Rondo, no one.

These are unreal numbers that make the guy pretty much unplayable in the clutch.

Simmons has missed 45 free throws in 10 playoff games. That’s more than three total teams have missed in their first 10 games of this postseason; Atlanta missed 35, Phoenix missed 29 and Brooklyn missed 22. The Los Angeles Clippers have missed 46, as a team, through 12 games.

Ben Simmons making NBA history with free-throw woes

The Sixers All-Star's struggles from the free-throw line have been heightened in the playoffs.

www.nba.com

Shaq was better, LOL.

 

[Iggloo]

Shaq was better, LOL.

Shaq, Wilt and Ben Wallace were all better. And don't even get me started on his supposed improvement in 3 point shooting we hear about every offseason, only to never see him shoot more than a few a fucking season.

 

[Wamu]

You miss games 4 and 6 when Embiid struggled from the field?

So you're saying the knee issue he's dealing with right now has nothing to do with his play on the court?

 

[DJ]

Magic had 19.5 11.2 and 7.2

You know what I remember a lot? When Magic came back in 1995 and played PF. He wasn't the same, but he was still a good player.

 

[DJ]

So you're saying the knee issue he's dealing with right now has nothing to do with his play on the court?

If it were still a major issue, he wouldn't be balling out like when he went for 37 points.

Think he's relatively healthy. Everybody is banged up at this point of the season.

 

[DJ]

Knee pain.....take some Ibuprofen or pain killers and play the game.

 

[Iggloo]

 

[tlance]

If it were still a major issue, he wouldn't be balling out like when he went for 37 points.

Think he's relatively healthy. Everybody is banged up at this point of the season.

Have you watched the games?

Embiid has been relegated to jump shots and fade aways.

He can hit those, but it isn’t what has made him a dominant player.

He is clearly not anywhere near healthy.

 

[Wamu]

Knee pain.....take some Ibuprofen or pain killers and play the game.

He has a meniscus tear in his knee. But you think that's just normal knee pain?

 

[flyerhawk]

Tobias has scored 19 or more points in 10 of the 11 games so far and he's being crucified because he had one bad game. Brutal is right.

 

[Iggloo]

Tobi is an OK #3 option on a good team. Problem is he is being asked to be the #2 option in Philly right now.