Series Thread: 2nd Round: Golden State Warriors vs Utah Jazz

[Ickey Shuffle]

Well, Anthony Davis too. But he's not as durable as Towns.

 

[tlance]

Well, Anthony Davis too. But he's not as durable as Towns.

Very good players.

There is also a reason why they are not in the playoffs. In the spread em out game that is today's NBA, a great big is not as impactful as a great perimeter player. They are more luxury than necessity.

It is also a big reason why I think people tend to overestimate how past era teams would do against the best from today. The court is effectively so much larger the way you have to defend the 3 point line against the Warriors, Rockets, Cavs, etc..

Analytics that did not exist 10 years ago tell us that playing outside in is far more efficient than inside out. All but the best of the best from prior eras would struggle to keep up, because they were not built to play that way.

While it is hard for a team like the Warriors to defend a dominant big man, that can be done by throwing bodies in the paint to clog things up. Is is much harder for the big to guard a guy like Draymond in space. Added help doesn't solve that problem, because the Warriors have shooters everywhere and Dray is a great passer.

 

[larryjohn]

^^^This^^^
The Warriors just have too many more ways to make things harder on Lebron than Cavs do to make things harder on KD.

Interesting how one year ago many people thought Curry might be the best player in the NBA. A year later, it is clear that KD is better -- now that they are on the same team.

 

[larryjohn]

Irving like Wade just hands over the keys to their team to LeBron. Irving is good enough to be lead dog as Wade was. They should have had some PRIDE in theirselves and abilities. Instead, both guys like wussy out

Then add players like Pippen, McHale, Parrish, Worthy, Kareem, etc. to the list.

 

[TJL]

Irving like Wade just hands over the keys to their team to LeBron. Irving is good enough to be lead dog as Wade was. They should have had some PRIDE in theirselves and abilities. Instead, both guys like wussy out

@trojanfan12
You should add this to the made up shit thread

 

[LAD]

Interesting how one year ago many people thought Curry might be the best player in the NBA. A year later, it is clear that KD is better -- now that they are on the same team.

I think this is because they clearly compliment each other on the court without sacrificing their individual game. They are allowed to play their own game - even if it's only in spurts. And in actuality sharing the load preserves their legs & probably keeps them from becoming exhausted in relation to the post season schedule.

 

[larryjohn]

I think this is because they clearly compliment each other on the court without sacrificing their individual game. They are allowed to play their own game - even if it's only in spurts. And in actuality sharing the load preserves their legs & probably keeps them from becoming exhausted in relation to the post season schedule.

But it is also clear -- that KD is the better player. (and I love Curry)

No matter what happens in playoffs (it could go either way) -- it will be really interesting if Durant commits to the Ws long-term -- or if he moves along the next season. (partly so he can win another Championship down the road without feeling like he is a bandwagon jumper)

 

[LAD]

But it is also clear -- that KD is the better player. (and I love Curry)

No matter what happens in playoffs (it could go either way) -- it will be really interesting if Durant commits to the Ws long-term -- or if he moves along the next season. (partly so he can win another Championship down the road without feeling like he is a bandwagon jumper)

I agree he's the better 1 on 1 player. But I don't think he feels like he's a bandwagon jumper by any means. If he was going to feel like that why go there in the first place? it wasn't like the reasons people might think he is has changed or that they didn't exist before he signed with the Dubs in July.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

But it is also clear -- that KD is the better player. (and I love Curry)

No matter what happens in playoffs (it could go either way) -- it will be really interesting if Durant commits to the Ws long-term -- or if he moves along the next season. (partly so he can win another Championship down the road without feeling like he is a bandwagon jumper)

There is zero chance he's leaving unless Draymond does something drastic like spitting on his Mama.

There is no way a Dude that sensitive would choose to endure another round of vitriol.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Interesting how one year ago many people thought Curry might be the best player in the NBA. A year later, it is clear that KD is better -- now that they are on the same team.

Well, it's not that surprising.

Curry is the better ball handler.

KD is the better .....everything else.

6 foot guy that can shoot the lights out< 7 foot guy that can shoot the lights out, rebound, defend, block shots

I never thought Curry was better, just that he had more success.

Now Kawhi?

Yeah, I think he's better than Durant.

I know I'm in the minority.

 

[larryjohn]

I agree he's the better 1 on 1 player. But I don't think he feels like he's a bandwagon jumper by any means. If he was going to feel like that why go there in the first place? it wasn't like the reasons people might think he is has changed or that they didn't exist before he signed with the Dubs in July.

I disagree. I think in his mind (and almost the entire internet ... and Charles B ... and any fan besides Ws) -- he is a bandwagon jumper. He couldn't beat the team -- so he joined them.

That's why it is interesting. He controls the situation completely.

So they win it this year -- does he want to stay and win a few more championships -- which many people will look down upon ? Or does he go to a place like Wash DC ... or even back to OKC (like Lebron did) ... or maybe one of the Texas teams ... and then get credit for lifting up a franchise and being the savior to an entire city when/if they win one ?

I also don't get the feeling that Kevin is loving this year. (def. doesn't hate it -- but it isn't his perfect situation)

 

[LAD]

I disagree. I think in his mind (and almost the entire internet ... and Charles B ... and any fan besides Ws) -- he is a bandwagon jumper. He couldn't beat the team -- so he joined them.

That's why it is interesting. He controls the situation completely.

So they win it this year -- does he want to stay and win a few more championships -- which many people will look down upon ? Or does he go to a place like Wash DC ... or even back to OKC (like Lebron did) ... or maybe one of the Texas teams ... and then get credit for lifting up a franchise and being the savior to an entire city when/if they win one ?

I also don't get the feeling that Kevin is loving this year. (def. doesn't hate it -- but it isn't his perfect situation)

hahaha a lot of this sounds like wishful thinking or just you reaching to maybe justify why you feel like he's a bandwagon jumper.

If something isn't broken why try to fix it? So if they win - and his ultimate goal has been to win a title - then why would he leave when the potential to win more is there?

If he wanted to be in Washington or OKC then he could've went there or stayed. Same option was there with the Texas teams. I guess I don't understand why you think his chances of winning in any other destination would have suddenly gone up because he wins one with GS.

Finally, is it all the smiling, joking & laughing he does on the sidelines with his team mates giving it away that he's not happy??? Or is it his career high stats??

Furthermore, he's already made the decision to leave once knowing the back lash he would get for it. Also, he's not like LBJ in terms of having to be liked by everyone.

Finally, he's already getting credit for lifting up a team...it happens to be GS & it's working well.

 

[tlance]

hahaha a lot of this sounds like wishful thinking or just you reaching to maybe justify why you feel like he's a bandwagon jumper.

If something is broken why try to fix it? So if they win - and his ultimate goal has been to win a title - then why would he leave when the potential to win more is there?

If he wanted to be in Washington or OKC then he could've went there or stayed. Same option was there with the Texas teams. I guess I don't understand why you think his chances of winning in any other destination would have suddenly gone up because he wins one with GS.

Finally, is it all the smiling, joking & laughing he does on the sidelines with his team mates giving it away that he's not happy??? Or is it his career high stats??

Exactly right. As much as I would love to see KD in DC, he left OKC because he was tired of playing with Russ, and he had a chance to play in a system that fits him much better than OKC. I would be absolutely shocked if he moves again.

 

[larryjohn]

hahaha a lot of this sounds like wishful thinking or just you reaching to maybe justify why you feel like he's a bandwagon jumper.
If something is broken why try to fix it? So if they win - and his ultimate goal has been to win a title - then why would he leave when the potential to win more is there?
If he wanted to be in Washington or OKC then he could've went there or stayed. Same option was there with the Texas teams. I guess I don't understand why you think his chances of winning in any other destination would have suddenly gone up because he wins one with GS.
Finally, is it all the smiling, joking & laughing he does on the sidelines with his team mates giving it away that he's not happy??? Or is it his career high stats??

Just like Lebron. If he wins, why would he leave ?

And to me -- he doesn't look that happy. He is a really good guy.

 

[tlance]

If the splash brothers are hitting, it will be a long night for Utah.

 

[LAD]

Just like Lebron. If he wins, why would he leave ?

And to me -- he doesn't look that happy. He is a really good guy.

I think you're comparing apples to oranges. KD isn't from OKC, whereas LBJ was from Cle & wanted to go back home. We've already seen KD passed on the option to go back & play where he was from (Washington).

I'm not sure how his motives can be seen as anything other than wanting to win & giving himself the best chance to do that.

 

[bksballer89]

Oh look just another NBA playoffs blowout. What a terrible post season this has been

 

[tlance]

Oh look just another NBA playoffs blowout. What a terrible post season this has been

Game 4 in a 3-0 series is often a blowout when the leading team is head and shoulders better than the team they are playing.

Utah gave it their best shot in game 3 and still fell far short. Psychologically, they know they are done. Hard to play the A+ game they need to beat GS in that state of mind.

There is a long way to go, but I will be surprised if Utah makes a game of this.

 

[trojanfan12]

@trojanfan12
You should add this to the made up shit thread

lol Except it's not made up. It's stupid, but it's not made up. Besides, I have a reply.

 

[bksballer89]

Game 4 in a 3-0 series is often a blowout when the leading team is head and shoulders better than the team they are playing.

Utah gave it their best shot in game 3 and still fell far short. Psychologically, they know they are done. Hard to play the A+ game they need to beat GS in that state of mind.

There is a long way to go, but I will be surprised if Utah makes a game of this.

I already quit on this game.

Some competitive games in these playoffs would be nice.