2025 season thread

[HaroldSeattle]

One player we haven't touched on much is Ernest Jones and what he will make if Seahawk's sign him and it appears they likely will. The Athletic has an article on it and they say this:

An appropriate deal for Jones would be a tick below that in the $12 million range, which when adjusted for the cap increase would be on par with the Okereke and Al-Shaair contracts. That would also match the projected contract value Pro Football Focus has for Jones and come in just under Spotrac’s estimated market value of $13 million per year.

The nuts and bolts of the contract — fully guaranteed money, signing bonus, etc. — are just as important as the average annual salary, though the latter is what generates the initial headlines. Depending on how the contract is structured, Seattle could sign Jones to a three-year deal worth about $37 million and keep his Year 1 cap hit around $5-6 million or lower with the use of void years. His percentage of the 2025 salary cap in that scenario would be in the same ballpark as safety Julian Love and cornerback Riq Woolen.

 

[Screamin12th]

Void years yuck, we need to go a couple to three years with no VOID YEAR contracts. Just to get out from under this cloud that past void years contracts have put us under. There is a reason that void year contracts are not being used ALL the time by EVERY team, it can get you into cap hell.

 

[MrS]

We are 17 days away from free agency, when are we going to see guys get cut and restructured?

 

[JMR]

Void years yuck, we need to go a couple to three years with no VOID YEAR contracts. Just to get out from under this cloud that past void years contracts have put us under. There is a reason that void year contracts are not being used ALL the time by EVERY team, it can get you into cap hell.

I think they're here to stay unless the player compensation model changes substantially. They can also be a very good tool if used in moderation because there is no interest applied to what is essentially a loan, and the cap continues to increase about 8% a year, give or take. Of the 18 QBs currently ahead of Geno in terms of total contract value, 13 of them have VOID years.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

We are 17 days away from free agency, when are we going to see guys get cut and restructured?

No advantage to doing cuts early so Seahawks likely wait until right before that date, they probably want to settle Geno's situation first. League year starts March 12th and on the 5th day of league year Geno will get a roster bonus so March 17th. Listening to JS say throwing money at problems doesn't work it doesn't sound like any big signing is in the works.

 

[MrS]

No advantage to doing cuts early so Seahawks likely wait until right before that date, they probably want to settle Geno's situation first. League year starts March 12th and on the 5th day of league year Geno will get a roster bonus so March 17th. Listening to JS say throwing money at problems doesn't work it doesn't sound like any big signing is in the works.

Other teams are making cuts and signing extension.
But i suspect you are right, they will do what they always do in FA, go discount shopping and avoid big signings.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Other teams are making cuts and signing extension.
But i suspect you are right, they will do what they always do in FA, go discount shopping and avoid big signings.

IMO they extend or redo Geno and Metcalf contract, then figure out how much to sign Jones and make cuts accordingly. So business as usual it seems, but for now we can hope they do something to add some excitement and surprise us.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

No advantage to doing cuts early so Seahawks likely wait until right before that date, they probably want to settle Geno's situation first. League year starts March 12th and on the 5th day of league year Geno will get a roster bonus so March 17th. Listening to JS say throwing money at problems doesn't work it doesn't sound like any big signing is in the works.

Then he better be drafting o-line if he isn't going with FA's

 

[MrS]

IMO they extend or redo Geno and Metcalf contract, then figure out how much to sign Jones and make cuts accordingly. So business as usual it seems, but for now we can hope they do something to add some excitement and surprise us.

I expect as Much and won't be surprised when its another middling year

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Let the speculation begin.

 

[Screamin12th]

Come on Pete! trade for Geno and DK. I'll take a 2nd this year a 1st and 2nd in 2026 and O'Connell. LMAO!

 

[HaroldSeattle]

 

[HaroldSeattle]

JS in every interview talks about how the Seahawks need to develop OL better than they have in the past. Added a bunch of guys to the coaching staff to help in that regard. That's good I guess but maybe do better at picking IOL to begin with.

 

[MrS]

Quinn ewers is being coached by mike McCarthy heading into the draft and he will fully participate in the combine.
Will he be high on Schneider's draft board?

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Let the speculation begin.

I don't think there's anything there with Geno but possibly some chatter about DK.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Quinn ewers is being coached by mike McCarthy heading into the draft and he will fully participate in the combine.
Will he be high on Schneider's draft board?

I'd take the Dart kid before Ewers

 

[MrS]

I'd take the Dart kid before Ewers

There seems to be a narrative brewing that ewers fits Schneider's prototype, and with McCarthy working with him, who has a relationship with Schneider, the narrative says he might be taken at some point. If its before round 4 that's a yikes from me dawg

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

There seems to be a narrative brewing that ewers fits Schneider's prototype, and with McCarthy working with him, who has a relationship with Schneider, the narrative says he might be taken at some point. If its before round 4 that's a yikes from me dawg

Seattle might have to move earlier if they want Ewers. Rams looking to dump Stafford puts them in play and seen mocks taking Dart 2nd round. Titans will take Carter or trade back so they become a team in play if that happens. That's why I say draft Dart 2nd round and continue to build.
Or hold out for Dillion Gaberiel which possibly could be had in the 4th round.

 

[MrS]

Seattle might have to move earlier if they want Ewers. Rams looking to dump Stafford puts them in play and seen mocks taking Dart 2nd round. Titans will take Carter or trade back so they become a team in play if that happens. That's why I say draft Dart 2nd round and continue to build.
Or hold out for Dillion Gaberiel which possibly could be had in the 4th round.

Inevitably, QBs will be taken way higher than they should be and the teams that do it will be lookiNg for a QB again next year

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Inevitably, QBs will be taken way higher than they should be and the teams that do it will be lookiNg for a QB again next year

Teams aren't taking another QB the following year if they drafted one in the first 3 rounds. Cards are the exception. Also if the FO passes up on a QB prospect and that prospect pans out then FO has once again failed to establish QBoF.