2025 NFL Draft Thread

[thunderc]

I do.....and I'd be willing to bet there will be a better NFL player in this draft than Travis Hunter.

Not to say Hunter wont be good or even a star.

It's kind of funny you'd make that comment along with the other comments you are making.

I just think he’s a unicorn

 

[dtgold88]

I just think he’s a unicorn

cool and in a sense he kind of is assuming he at least tried to play a good amount on both sides. Doesn't mean a team is foolish for passing on him, especially for an incredibly haul to only move down 3 spots and not for a QB.

 

[thunderc]

cool and in a sense he kind of is assuming he at least tried to play a good amount on both sides. Doesn't mean a team is foolish for passing on him, especially for an incredibly haul to only move down 3 spots and not for a QB.

That’s why they play the games we are going to get to see I guess.

 

[Shanemansj13]

The Browns should take him. He can sit for a little and learn the offense.....if Flacco struggles or gets hurt they can play Sanders.

No thanks. Raiders should take him

 

[dtgold88]

No thanks. Raiders should take him

wait.....I thought the trade down was the last straw for you. Why do you even care?

Yes, I really do kid this time......and when I heard of the deal was concerned until heard the haul.

 

[Shanemansj13]

As an NFL fan, I'm kinda glad Hunter ended up in Jacksonville. Their top need was CB and WR was probably top 4. They in theory have a franchise QB and a WR1. It's the perfect spot for him.

On the flip side, the Browns getting a massive haul is probably the most noteworthy thing in the draft. The Browns really aren't that far off if they get out from under Watson.

Not that Lawrence had an excuses before...but if the guy can't breakout now, he has zero hope in Jacksonville.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I think the draft capital accrued in that deal was tremendous. I do worry a little about the pick. Graham is great against the run but I would have liked to have seen a better demonstrated ability to rush the passer when using a top 5 pick on DT. I think he’s an NFL starter though on day 1 and a solid run defender.

The haul was great...nobody can deny that but in the end you are trading for unknowns. You still need to get the picks right. We won't know how it turns how for years but it will help if Jacksonville is a bottom of the league team next season.

I like Graham too but I did love Hunter.

Graham is interesting bc I think he can be much better at rushing the passer in the NFL. He saw double teams almost 50% of the time...I saw it somewhere. You can't do that with Myles. They still need another legit edge...that would be nice too.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I just think he’s a unicorn

He is a unicorn. Hunter has a pretty high floor but I still think Jacksonville is a bad team. They have a lot of holes still.

Browns got a haul but it really means nothing if you can't make the right picks...that's what it all comes down too. If Hunter becomes another Julio-future HOFr and the Browns don't make the picks....just a another shit trade in the end.

 

[dtgold88]

The haul was great...nobody can deny that but in the end you are trading for unknowns. You still need to get the picks right. We won't know how it turns how for years but it will help if Jacksonville is a bottom of the league team next season.

I like Graham too but I did love Hunter.

Graham is interesting bc I think he can be much better at rushing the passer in the NFL. He saw double teams almost 50% of the time...I saw it somewhere. You can't do that with Myles. They still need another legit edge...that would be nice too.

Totally agree but Hunter an unknown as much as the rest as far as what he will do in NFL.....and the Julio comparison is absurd considering we moved down into the 20s in a weak draft.

Also think Wright is a legit edge as a #2. so are a couple others. If we can do better though great.....not at expense of badly needed O IMO.

 

[TheGoodMan19]

He is a unicorn. Hunter has a pretty high floor but I still think Jacksonville is a bad team. They have a lot of holes still.

Browns got a haul but it really means nothing if you can't make the right picks...that's what it all comes down too. If Hunter becomes another Julio-future HOFr and the Browns don't make the picks....just a another shit trade in the end.

True. Like the Hershel Walker trade. It's the worst is history because Dallas made so many great picks. Walker for Emmitt Smith alone makes it robbery. Add Russell Maryland, Kevin Smith and Darren Woodson and it's criminal. Dallas messes up those picks and it hardly remembered

 

[Iggloo]

Right, which is EXACTLY what I said in my original post.

So what are you talking about? I guess it was my comment about Eagles fans losing their cool so to speak? I mean, go back and read what you wrote, you kind of did lol. Nobody types that if they're not taking it personal, ha.

All good man, I get a laugh out of it.

This may be optimistic, but a doctor told Campbell he should be ready to return from the labrum surgery by training camp.


Even if he misses some of that, I really doubt he misses the season based on this injury. And I see no reporting that he needs a second shoulder surgery. Where are you getting that?

My prediction is that he probably doesn't start opening day, but like Cooper DeJean, he slides in after a few games and becomes a core starter.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

did every other player play 110+ snaps in college? Guessing he said he's built differently because he is. Well, maybe built differently not the right words to use.

Personally, I think those saying no way he can do it (you) and those saying he's by far the best in the draft (thunder) are both extreme comments and as usual truth likely in the middle.

DT we have an odds game. The odds that Hunter can play CB/WR 100% snaps vs. some guy in the 60s doing both and doing it successfully is EXTREMELY low.

The odds aren't the same.

Me saying: "He can't do it" (because basically nobody ever has) vs. "He can do it" (when nobody ever has) are beyond polarizing... you've lost sight of what the argument is.

 

[dtgold88]

DT we have an odds game. The odds that Hunter can play CB/WR 100% snaps vs. some guy in the 60s doing both and doing it successfully is EXTREMELY low.

The odds aren't the same.

Me saying: "He can't do it" (because basically nobody ever has) vs. "He can do it" (when nobody ever has) are beyond polarizing... you've lost sight of what the argument is.

Kind of amusing you claim I lost sight of the argument as never said he will play 100% on both sides (not many have) Guessing if he came here would have been full time WR and maybe 30 or so snaps as a DB. Not sure what Jville will do.

 

[fightinfunbags]

This may be optimistic, but a doctor told Campbell he should be ready to return from the labrum surgery by training camp.


Even if he misses some of that, I really doubt he misses the season based on this injury. And I see no reporting that he needs a second shoulder surgery. Where are you getting that?

My prediction is that he probably doesn't start opening day, but like Cooper DeJean, he slides in after a few games and becomes a core starter.

And the stuff on his knees.

 

[Wamu]

Stephen A was on squeaking about Sanders. He admitted Prime Jr doesn't have the size, arm strength, athleticism. But raved about his intangibles. And glossed over he reports of Sanders pissy attitude. I think that's just what scared teams away. They see Shedeur as a potential Art Schlichter, Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Johnny Manziel. No GM wants that knowing that if he's Manziel 2.0 they will be looking for work in two years.

Gotta disagree with Screamin' A. His arm strength isn't an issue and he's damn good throwing the deep ball. His decision making is good. Otherwise he wouldn't have a 37 to 10 TD to int. ratio. 64 to 13 his two years.

Did he hold onto the ball too much too often? Hell yes he did. But his first season he played behind the worst P5 offensive line. Everyone they played had bigger OL and DL. It was very noticeable.

Last season the OL was better but not good. Same with the DL.

The one thing I kept hearing was his so called bad attitude. WTF do GM's want him to do...bend over backwards thanking them just to talk, was he supposed to bring a gift basket with him?

Obviously nobody knows what kinda player he'll be. But I think some of the negativity with him has to do with his dad who many don't like because he's very outspoken. And not drafting a kid because of who his father is is just dumb.

The Johnny Manziel comparison. No way. Johnny admitted he didn't even know who to read defenses. That won't be a problem for Sanders. How heavy was J. Russell when get got to the NFL? And his stock went through the roof because of good bowl game. Schlichter? Not a good comparison, Sanders doesn't have a gambling problem. Ryan Leaf? Sanders isn't a baby like Leaf was.

 

[Clayton]

Not that Lawrence had an excuses before...but if the guy can't breakout now, he has zero hope in Jacksonville.

What the Jags are doing at least makes sense to me. Take the guy who was around Baker Mayfield when he saved his career and do similar things. Baker inherited a supremely talented Bucs team that is slowly falling apart and needs to be rebuilt. Lawrence is on a young team with seemingly no leadership. I don't think Lawrence will ever be the guy he was supposed to be. I still think he has a shot to be a top 15 QB for half of his career.

Jags still have a bunch of 1st and 2nd round picks all over their roster. They need coaching. They need leadership.

 

[Sharkonabicycle]

Kind of amusing you claim I lost sight of the argument as never said he will play 100% on both sides (not many have) Guessing if he came here would have been full time WR and maybe 30 or so snaps as a DB. Not sure what Jville will do.

I've said all along (and in numerous posts) that a 50/50% split will result in disaster.

Hey, if that works out to be a thing? Then sure, I'm wrong.

 

[dtgold88]

Gotta disagree with Screamin' A. His arm strength isn't an issue and he's damn good throwing the deep ball. His decision making is good. Otherwise he wouldn't have a 37 to 10 TD to int. ratio. 64 to 13 his two years.

Did he hold onto the ball too much too often? Hell yes he did. But his first season he played behind the worst P5 offensive line. Everyone they played had bigger OL and DL. It was very noticeable.

Last season the OL was better but not good. Same with the DL.

The one thing I kept hearing was his so called bad attitude. WTF do GM's want him to do...bend over backwards thanking them just to talk, was he supposed to bring a gift basket with him?

Obviously nobody knows what kinda player he'll be. But I think some of the negativity with him has to do with his dad who many don't like because he's very outspoken. And not drafting a kid because of who his father is is just dumb.

The Johnny Manziel comparison. No way. Johnny admitted he didn't even know who to read defenses. That won't be a problem for Sanders. How heavy was J. Russell when get got to the NFL? And his stock went through the roof because of good bowl game. Schlichter? Not a good comparison, Sanders doesn't have a gambling problem. Ryan Leaf? Sanders isn't a baby like Leaf was.

Yeah the attitude at interviews could be so overblown.....and what was it anyway? 2 guys commented who were nameless? Maybe most others liked him? Also agree while might not work out he's not those other guys.

IF a team believes in him ON field cannot imagine he said anything that would prohibit them from taking him...if needing a QB.

Will it be us? Who the hell know.....saying all that think I'd prefer Milroe just because the OC has worked with him and would have a good grasp if he can succeed.

 

[dtgold88]

I've said all along (and in numerous posts) that a 50/50% split will result in disaster.

Hey, if that works out to be a thing? Then sure, I'm wrong.

Guess we will see...my guess is will be more like 90% and 30 or so plays on other side. Hope he waits until after year 1 to become a star if he does (to help out our draft pick next year).

 

[Battlelyon]