2025 NFL Draft: The Quarterback Class

[Brees#1]

Sanders? Those are good comps. And if my team thinks the latter they have to take him.

I hope you do take him. Please do.

 

[mgomrjsurf]

Brady Cook day 2 and hopping 5 or 6 day one. Also everybody available in Green Room,CBS,Fox,NBC their to but not going to happen same with NBA rotating site of Draft to,allowing NBATV to be live their to showing it to,having Teams come up and announce picks/Trades same in NHL just ESPN/NHL Network both days on TV.

 

[shopson67]

well sure.....but they did not have Doc Brown's Delorean at time of draft.

I saw enough of him at Louisville to think he was being slept on. He was always a far better passer than people want to give him credit for.

 

[shopson67]

Brady Cook day 2 and hopping 5 or 6 day one. Also everybody available in Green Room,CBS,Fox,NBC their to but not going to happen same with NBA rotating site of Draft to,allowing NBATV to be live their to showing it to,having Teams come up and announce picks/Trades same in NHL just ESPN/NHL Network both days on TV.

Cook day 2? Wow, that would be a shock IMO. He seems like a late day 3 guy.

 

[Clayton]

Cook day 2? Wow, that would be a shock IMO. He seems like a late day 3 guy.

I think Cook is either rd5 or UDFA. His accuracy was abysmal last year but he was also hurt last year. The guy on tape last year isnt draftable but if it was just a product of being injured than that changes things a lot.

 

[dtgold88]

I hope you do take him. Please do.

so do I if they love him enough.

 

[dtgold88]

I saw enough of him at Louisville to think he was being slept on. He was always a far better passer than people want to give him credit for.

OK....but many who do this for a living and watch a lot more than you with a lot more info disagreed.....including the team who ended up taking him. If they agreed doubtful they take a TE over him.

 

[fightinfunbags]

OK....but many who do this for a living and watch a lot more than you with a lot more info disagreed.....including the team who ended up taking him. If they agreed doubtful they take a TE over him.

You’re also the guy who says these people who do this for a living can’t be trusted either. Over the years of reading your posts about the draft it seems like you just don’t like anyone offering opinions on players or the draft.

 

[dtgold88]

You’re also the guy who says these people who do this for a living can’t be trusted either. Over the years of reading your posts about the draft it seems like you just don’t like anyone offering opinions on players or the draft.

I love the predraft convos.....Really only push back on fans who think they know because, yes, even the experts miss on QBs.....a lot. Like LJ's own team kind of did. I mean, they got him, but know way they knew what he'd become. Likely didn't think he'd be close.

sorry but I find it comical fans see a QB play maybe a few games but think they "know" anything. And I can also promise fans lie a lot. many now saying they knew Allen would be a star (or LJ) who at time of draft were skeptical at best.

Never really imply experts cannot be trusted.....only point out the many misses from them to show how absurd it is fans with so little info think they know.

 

[shopson67]

OK....but many who do this for a living and watch a lot more than you with a lot more info disagreed.....including the team who ended up taking him. If they agreed doubtful they take a TE over him.

If you can get him later than expected because everyone is slow to recognize shifts in how the NFL QB position can be played, that's enormous value.

Do they agree TODAY? Of course.

 

[dtgold88]

If you can get him later than expected because everyone is slow to recognize shifts in how the NFL QB position can be played, that's enormous value.

Do they agree TODAY? Of course.

Let me see if I have this straight.....you think Bmore had a good idea LJ could be a 2 time MVP and in middle of round 1 said "no way anyone else sees what we see. We can wait it out. Let's go with the TE for now."?

Ya gotta love this forum.

 

[shopson67]

Let me see if I have this straight.....you think Bmore had a good idea LJ could be a 2 time MVP and in middle of round 1 said "no way anyone else sees what we see. We can wait it out. Let's go with the TE for now."?

Ya gotta love this forum.

Never said that. There's no way of knowing about the 2 time MVP stuff for sure. But if the league seems down on your QB target but not your TE target? Certainly risky, but it worked out nicely.

I'm not claiming to have any validity for liking Lamar as a prospect or extending that to mean any other guy I like should be similarly rated. I just happened to think he should go earlier, and in this case he should have. This singular opinion was validated.

The mock drafts are fun, but they really reinforce the group think about prospects. I remember loving Aaron Donald and hoping the Rams would take him in the 2nd where he was projected. He won virtually every reward for his position that year but was undervalued because he supposedly wasn't big enough. They traded back up at took him at 13, surprising me (but was still very happy lol).

 

[dtgold88]

Never said that. There's no way of knowing about the 2 time MVP stuff for sure. But if the league seems down on your QB target but not your TE target? Certainly risky, but it worked out nicely.

I'm not claiming to have any validity for liking Lamar as a prospect or extending that to mean any other guy I like should be similarly rated. I just happened to think he should go earlier, and in this case he should have. This singular opinion was validated.

The mock drafts are fun, but they really reinforce the group think about prospects. I remember loving Aaron Donald and hoping the Rams would take him in the 2nd where he was projected. He won virtually every reward for his position that year but was undervalued because he supposedly wasn't big enough. They traded back up at took him at 13, surprising me (but was still very happy lol).

Yeah it worked out fine.....but even while didn't see 2 MVP likely didn't even have much confidence he'd be a top tier guy or knowing they would need a QB soon they don't pass to take a TE IMO. did look really good in the handful of games I saw him play.

Cannot say I knew much about Donald, but I tend to like those who were highly productive on top tier teams (against top tier teams). Like if the Browns wanted to grab, say, Cody Simon (or someone like him) in an early mid round it wont bother me at all.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

You’re also the guy who says these people who do this for a living can’t be trusted either. Over the years of reading your posts about the draft it seems like you just don’t like anyone offering opinions on players or the draft.

People's opinions are not allowed

 

[jarntt]

I think it's clear Tenn is going Ward 1. Here is what was my draft night shocker until about a month ago, because now everyone seems to be predicting Sanders to drop. I can't take Sanders top 10 if it's up to me. I just don't think he is good enough. If he came out last year he doesn't go in the first round. I'm going to predict that without a trade he doesn't go top 20. Now watch him go #2 and prove how clueless I am

If Ward is the only QB to have been drafted when the Steelers get on the clock (If I'm Sea I'm taking a QB and letting them sit a year unless I really don't like any of them) I think it is about 50/50 that he is even the next QB to be drafted. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dart go before him and based on how the drafts have gone the last few years I wouldn't even be shocked if Milroe went before him although I think he is nowhere near ready to be an NFL QB.

I think 5 QBs go in the top 37 picks

 

[shopson67]

Yeah it worked out fine.....but even while didn't see 2 MVP likely didn't even have much confidence he'd be a top tier guy or knowing they would need a QB soon they don't pass to take a TE IMO. did look really good in the handful of games I saw him play.

Cannot say I knew much about Donald, but I tend to like those who were highly productive on top tier teams (against top tier teams). Like if the Browns wanted to grab, say, Cody Simon (or someone like him) in an early mid round it wont bother me at all.

Simon is interesting, depends on what you want out of your LBs. He's best charging downhill rather than falling into coverage. An inside LB, smaller SAM maybe?

 

[shopson67]

I think it's clear Tenn is going Ward 1. Here is what was my draft night shocker until about a month ago, because now everyone seems to be predicting Sanders to drop. I can't take Sanders top 10 if it's up to me. I just don't think he is good enough. If he came out last year he doesn't go in the first round. I'm going to predict that without a trade he doesn't go top 20. Now watch him go #2 and prove how clueless I am

If Ward is the only QB to have been drafted when the Steelers get on the clock (If I'm Sea I'm taking a QB and letting them sit a year unless I really don't like any of them) I think it is about 50/50 that he is even the next QB to be drafted. I wouldn't be surprised to see Dart go before him and based on how the drafts have gone the last few years I wouldn't even be shocked if Milroe went before him although I think he is nowhere near ready to be an NFL QB.

I think 5 QBs go in the top 37 picks

It will be interesting to see if Pitt is in on Sanders and how aggressive they would be. You could have teams trading ahead of them for QB, so the Steelers may need to move up. There has been some talk that Sanders isn't ideal for cold weather games (hand size, physicality, arm strength), but he did play some cold weather games at Colorado.