2024 NBA Offseason

[thunderc]

Shai is another one. Good call.

But he and Chet better not make another commercial together.

Oh there almost has to be a sequel because it was so bad lol

 

[Wamu]

Oh there almost has to be a sequel because it was so bad lol

Hell yeah. And if they do another commercial hopefully it'll be a better song.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[thunderc]

So the US and Canada are lined up for the finals?

 

[bksballer89]

So the US and Canada are lined up for the finals?

Think it might be semis unless they do some weird seeding thing but Germany should be the 2 seed

 

[thunderc]

Think it might be semis unless they do some weird seeding thing but Germany should be the 2 seed

Damn I’d rather that be the final

 

[bksballer89]

@thunderc @bksballer89

Is Sha’carri time.

Tomorrow the big one right? Today was just qualifying I'm guessing?

 

[dtgold88]

I wouldn’t say it’s a hell of a deal either. No discount was given or anything. Hartenstein’s deal reset the market and Allen has been slotted correctly.

Allen pretty much is being same as Hartenstein. Guy went for around 8 ppg, 8 rpg and 2.5 apg. Career is 6/6/2

Allen went for 16.5, 10.5 and 3. Career 13/9/2

Allen also only a few months older.....compared to Hartenstein Allen was way underpaid. Not really debatable.

 

[dtgold88]

Cavs rosy colored glasses

I mean, he was paid about the same as Hartenstein but far more productive. You disagree?

 

[dtgold88]

Hes better than Hartenstein though.

Yes...a lot better. But paid roughly the same.

 

[dtgold88]

That's why I thought the comparison was a bit wonky in establishing worth.

My initial point is that I don't know who is going to want to trade for a $30M per for a paint big like Allen in the near future, so they are essentially locking him to their roster with the extension. We've seen how the apron rules have shifted teams' spending habits overall. Maybe as the cap continues to expand that will change, but we'll see how the athleticism holds as he nears/passes 30.

He's $20 mil per the next 2 seasons (which makes him very underpaid)....and by the time his $30 mil per seasons start he will be as or even more underpaid than now.

 

[dtgold88]

Meh, Allen should be fine as he gets older.

Agree...I mean, he will definitely slow down but figure he can play like he has until his new deal ends (barring injury). also still could improve as only 26.

 

[dtgold88]

It's also the "max" the Cavs could extend Allen for at this time apparently.

Had heard he was considered a max deal which seems odd. Not sure why.

 

[dtgold88]

By that argument it could be said all but about 8 players are overpaid though

That's also fair when it comes to FA. Only true max guys and maybe ring chasers or others on vet minimum deals are not overpaid. Most are.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Allen pretty much is being same as Hartenstein. Guy went for around 8 ppg, 8 rpg and 2.5 apg. Career is 6/6/2

Allen went for 16.5, 10.5 and 3. Career 13/9/2

Allen also only a few months older.....compared to Hartenstein Allen was way underpaid. Not really debatable.

Pre-extension? If that’s what you’re saying then I agree. But if you’re saying his new total when the extension kicks in at 30 million is a deal then I absolutely disagree. That means you’re projecting him at a player north of 35-40 million. That’s not Allen.

 

[fightinfunbags]

Yes...a lot better. But paid roughly the same.

I think everybody here is in agreement that OKC overpaid. I personally have him at about 22-23.5. So I think that’s a pretty fair assessment of Allen > Hartenstein. 30> 22-23.5

 

[Fencer]

@LogicMan @Gman @redskinsfan1963 @Fencer

A nice article about D. White.

Derrick White is showing the world how good he is for Team USA

Link didn't work for me, but you obviously meant

Forsberg: The world knows how good Derrick White is now

The international audience is finding out how much Derrick White impacts winning as he shines for Team USA, writes Chris Forsberg.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

 

[bksballer89]

Link didn't work for me, but you obviously meant

Forsberg: The world knows how good Derrick White is now

The international audience is finding out how much Derrick White impacts winning as he shines for Team USA, writes Chris Forsberg.

www.nbcsportsboston.com

 

[msgkings322]

I'm not so sure that an international all-star team would be more competitive than these individual countries. A main reason these games are so much more competitive is that these national teams play together a lot and as a unit with national pride. An all-star team would lose that aspect. Some of these guys from South Sudan that have been tough for the US wouldn't even come close to making an international all-star team.

But the US team doesn’t play together either. It’s 2 all star teams

 

[DJ Fieri]