2024 Free agency and draft thread

[Clayton]

Eagles have $21M in cap space without much room to restructure, and they need to pay their draft picks. I'm guessing he wants to actually get paid.

Chiefs aren't really known for paying CBs, either. I wouldn't be shocked if there was a 3rd or 4th player in this.

I do think Chris Jones is a domino that falls before this one.

 

[eaglesnut]

Someone is going to instantly have a passing game that didn't have a passing game last year.

How about the Raiders to pair him with Adams.

 

[shopson67]

Someone is going to instantly have a passing game that didn't have a passing game last year.

How about the Raiders to pair him with Adams.

Makes sense. Could see the Pats going that route too and trading down (or taking Harrison outright) in the draft.

 

[Xeliou66]

Chiefs releasing MVS. Not surprising, figured that move was coming. I have a feeling the Chiefs first pick of the draft will be a receiver.

 

[shopson67]

Chiefs releasing MVS. Not surprising, figured that move was coming. I have a feeling the Chiefs first pick of the draft will be a receiver.

That's the common projection, but depends on who's available at the pick. WR is deep enough that they could wait if someone interesting slides to them at another position.

 

[Clayton]

Chiefs releasing MVS. Not surprising, figured that move was coming. I have a feeling the Chiefs first pick of the draft will be a receiver.

Releasing MVS also frees the Chiefs to go out and get a receiver. (although Im now reading that the Chiefs have performance bonuses that will eat away at their cap space so MVS release is probably a push with that)

MVS was absolutely a key part in the Chiefs winning two rings. I appreciate what he did on the team.

He is also a key reason why the Chiefs were a 3 seed and not in the running for a 1 seed. There is something to be said about players who show up for Super Bowl runs but its hard to love players who only play well in small sample sizes.

Signing MVS paid off really well for the Chiefs. Letting him go is also the right move, I'd imagine.

 

[Shanemansj13]

That's the common projection, but depends on who's available at the pick. WR is deep enough that they could wait if someone interesting slides to them at another position.

If Sneed is gone they might think about taking a CB also going to have a hole in middle w/o Chris Jones. They took Rice in the 2nd and like you said, very deep WR draft. They can go many different directions.

 

[Clayton]

That's the common projection, but depends on who's available at the pick. WR is deep enough that they could wait if someone interesting slides to them at another position.

I'd love if it the Chiefs just approached pick 32 as BPA. Deep at OT. Deep at WR. Probably 1 or 2 starting DTs there. Maybe a CB out of Mizzou.

 

[DJ Fieri]

If Kirk Cousins wants 51 mill per....fuck him.

That would take most, if not all, of our cap space.

 

[DJ Fieri]

We actually have around 48 mill in cap space right now.

 

[shopson67]

If Kirk Cousins wants 51 mill per....fuck him.

That would take most, if not all, of our cap space.

Raiders can get to 90M+ in cap space via Jimmy cut and restructures if they desire.

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[fightinfunbags]

Eagles have $21M in cap space without much room to restructure, and they need to pay their draft picks. I'm guessing he wants to actually get paid.

If they need it, they’ll find room. The culture in Philly is this:
If you take the big money from the Eagles, you’re agreeing to restructure with more upfront money going your way so we can pay your teammates and keep this thing together and enhance it. People sing this same song and dance every year and yet the Eagles always seem to avoid cap hell.

 

[Clayton]

Chiefs also threw the franchise tag on Sneed.

Chiefs are now only at 9.5 million in cap space. Either Sneed gets traded (unlikely imo) or Chris Jones is gone barring something pretty major happening with Mahomes' contract.

 

[ducky]

If they need it, they’ll find room. The culture in Philly is this:
If you take the big money from the Eagles, you’re agreeing to restructure with more upfront money going your way so we can pay your teammates and keep this thing together and enhance it. People sing this same song and dance every year and yet the Eagles always seem to avoid cap hell.

You can only kick for so long and the Eagles are basically at that point.

The only 2 players on their entire roster with base salaries of any true value that can convert to signing bonuses to kick cap forward into future years are Byard and Reddick. And it sounds like both of those guys are actually being cut or traded anyways.

Not saying they are going through an early 2000's cap hell situation (man was it different then) or anything like that. But they are going to lose some players this offseason and could over a 2 year span lose Graham, Cox, Hargrave and Reddick. That is one hell of a lot of talent to lose along the DL in such a short span. Obviously they have been planning for it.....but still a lot of talent to say goodbye to.

In 2022 those 4 players accounted for 187 tackles and 45 sacks.

 

[fightinfunbags]

You can only kick for so long and the Eagles are basically at that point.

No, they are not. This was the claim when they had to deal Wentz. They ate the cap hit for one season and right after they dealt for AJ Brown, signed Hassan Reddick, and went to the Super Bowl.

You don’t understand how the cap works. A savvy GM can essentially kick the can down the road in perpetuity.

The only 2 players on their entire roster with base salaries of any true value that can convert to signing bonuses to kick cap forward into future years are Byard and Reddick. And it sounds like both of those guys are actually being cut or traded anyways.

Not saying they are going through an early 2000's cap hell situation (man was it different then) or anything like that. But they are going to lose some players this offseason and could over a 2 year span lose Graham, Cox, Hargrave and Reddick. That is one hell of a lot of talent to lose along the DL in such a short span. Obviously they have been planning for it.....but still a lot of talent to say goodbye to.

In 2022 those 4 players accounted for 187 tackles and 45 sacks.

Graham and Cox are nearing retirement age. Hargrave isn’t a 20 million dollar a year player. They have invested in the DL and will continue to do so. They’ll be fine. The Eagles may fail in the end, but it won’t be because the cap handcuffs them.

 

[Shanemansj13]

No, they are not. This was the claim when they had to deal Wentz. They ate the cap hit for one season and right after they dealt for AJ Brown, signed Hassan Reddick, and went to the Super Bowl.

You don’t understand how the cap works. A savvy GM can essentially kick the can down the road in perpetuity.



Graham and Cox are nearing retirement age. Hargrave isn’t a 20 million dollar a year player. They have invested in the DL and will continue to do so. They’ll be fine. The Eagles may fail in the end, but it won’t be because the cap handcuffs them.

This what people say with the Watson deal. If you have an owner that is willing to spend his cash then they can literally do this every year. The Browns can restructure contracts this offseason (already did with Ward) and create $81M. The cap is a myth. The Saints have been doing this for the last couple years, over $100M last year I believe

 

[shopson67]

If they need it, they’ll find room. The culture in Philly is this:
If you take the big money from the Eagles, you’re agreeing to restructure with more upfront money going your way so we can pay your teammates and keep this thing together and enhance it. People sing this same song and dance every year and yet the Eagles always seem to avoid cap hell.

Unless the Spotrac page is wrong/broken, they don't really have any substantial restructure options.

Philadelphia Eagles Roster Manager

www.spotrac.com

 

[Tainthappening]

If they need it, they’ll find room. The culture in Philly is this:
If you take the big money from the Eagles, you’re agreeing to restructure with more upfront money going your way so we can pay your teammates and keep this thing together and enhance it. People sing this same song and dance every year and yet the Eagles always seem to avoid cap hell.

Yeah... there is always a way to find room when the team is contending... but at somepoint there is a reset (not necessary cap hell). Packers were pushing out money for several players... started using Void years more and more on contracts to "extend their window".

Jalen Hurts is fairly cheap now yet on salary cap... but appears his money was pushed out quite a bit. A lot of void/"dead money" pushed out to 2029 and beyond.

Looking at Eagles... they are doing exactly what Packers did for several years before trading Rodgers... appears Eagles have void year $ of $55M, $70M, $35M, $25M and $48M over next 5 years.... that is quite a bit of $ without a player. If the player resigns, that money just goes on top of this void $.

Can continue to push out money.. but there will be a "reset" similar to Packers past couple of years that salary cap is less flexible.

 

[eaglesnut]

No, they are not. This was the claim when they had to deal Wentz. They ate the cap hit for one season and right after they dealt for AJ Brown, signed Hassan Reddick, and went to the Super Bowl.

You don’t understand how the cap works. A savvy GM can essentially kick the can down the road in perpetuity.



Graham and Cox are nearing retirement age. Hargrave isn’t a 20 million dollar a year player. They have invested in the DL and will continue to do so. They’ll be fine. The Eagles may fail in the end, but it won’t be because the cap handcuffs them.

These guys around here have been wrong for years about the Eagles cap. It used to be fun educating them how it would happen and then rubbing it in their faces when it did.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Could be the top 3 WR FA's gone before it starts now. Dwindling as we speak