2023 offseason thread

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

That would be the best of a bad situation. If that’s where he is in his head, it would be worse if he comes in.

Yikes

No matter what signals the Sixers might send when it comes to trade talks, a source close to Harden reiterated that the 10-time All-Star and former MVP no longer wants to play for Philadelphia and has no plans of taking part in training camp.

That part remains unclear, with Harden’s side still expressing a belief that there will be meaningful developments on the trade talk front before that time comes. The source spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

– via Sam Amick @ The Athletic

 

[bksballer89]

Yikes

No matter what signals the Sixers might send when it comes to trade talks, a source close to Harden reiterated that the 10-time All-Star and former MVP no longer wants to play for Philadelphia and has no plans of taking part in training camp.

That part remains unclear, with Harden’s side still expressing a belief that there will be meaningful developments on the trade talk front before that time comes. The source spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

– via Sam Amick @ The Athletic

Did they put a gun to his head and tell him to opt in?

 

[bksballer89]

 

[bksballer89]

Amazing speech by a great man. Dwade will forever be my personal GOAT

 

[thunderc]

Yikes

No matter what signals the Sixers might send when it comes to trade talks, a source close to Harden reiterated that the 10-time All-Star and former MVP no longer wants to play for Philadelphia and has no plans of taking part in training camp.

That part remains unclear, with Harden’s side still expressing a belief that there will be meaningful developments on the trade talk front before that time comes. The source spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation.

– via Sam Amick @ The Athletic

It would be unheard of for a team to say ok f him, we just won’t pay him and he can sit. Common wisdom says the Sixers have to try to get something out of him and of course he is counting on that. He won’t sit a single game, hopefully they call his bluff. It’s begging to be called.

 

[thunderc]

Did they put a gun to his head and tell him to opt in?

An article I guess I missed on that very subject. They straight up told him they didn’t want him and he opted in anyeay.

Sixers: Why James Harden opted into $35.6 million contract, revealed

Apparently it was the Sixers who made it abundantly clear to James Harden that they did not see a future for him in Philly.

clutchpoints.com

 

[The Q]

It would be unheard of for a team to say ok f him, we just won’t pay him and he can sit. Common wisdom says the Sixers have to try to get something out of him and of course he is counting on that. He won’t sit a single game, hopefully they call his bluff. It’s begging to be called.

Him half assing it is worse than him not playing

 

[The Q]

An article I guess I missed on that very subject. They straight up told him they didn’t want him and he opted in anyeay.

Sixers: Why James Harden opted into $35.6 million contract, revealed

Apparently it was the Sixers who made it abundantly clear to James Harden that they did not see a future for him in Philly.

clutchpoints.com

Then trading him should be easy for them

 

[thunderc]

Then trading him should be easy for them

No one wants him, no one

 

[The Q]

No one wants him, no one

Laughably untrue

But he’s 35

 

[bksballer89]

 

[flyerhawk]

@fightinfunbags @flyerhawk @Sparhawk

Congrats!!!

Least surprising news of the summer.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I have never seen his Dad before.

 

[bksballer89]

I have never seen his Dad before.

Same. Always heard about his Mom and Sister

 

[dtgold88]

@WiggyRuss @Shanemansj13

Catch what JB said in a print interview with Fedor about Mitchell's future here?

Pretty much said he's doing everything you'd expect a guy to do who is happy where he is. Pointed out not only was he in Vegas watching, but he was helping the young guys get ready to play in Vegas....in addition to all the dinners with the guys. He was engaged and was helping to bring guys here in FA, as well.

could he go? Of course, but nothing he has shown us says he will.

 

[bksballer89]

@WiggyRuss @Shanemansj13

Catch what JB said in a print interview with Fedor about Mitchell's future here?

Pretty much said he's doing everything you'd expect a guy to do who is happy where he is. Pointed out not only was he in Vegas watching, but he was helping the young guys get ready to play in Vegas....in addition to all the dinners with the guys. He was engaged and was helping to bring guys here in FA, as well.

could he go? Of course, but nothing he has shown us says he will.

Not everyone can be James Harden

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

@WiggyRuss @Shanemansj13

Catch what JB said in a print interview with Fedor about Mitchell's future here?

Pretty much said he's doing everything you'd expect a guy to do who is happy where he is. Pointed out not only was he in Vegas watching, but he was helping the young guys get ready to play in Vegas....in addition to all the dinners with the guys. He was engaged and was helping to bring guys here in FA, as well.

could he go? Of course, but nothing he has shown us says he will.

None of that matters.

The moment he is extension eligible and doesn’t sign, the rumor mill will start churning.

Doesnt matter that he has a very good reason not to extend, even if he loves Ohio.

I personally would not be comfortable letting him hit unrestricted free agency.

But, he has millions of reasons to do that very thing.

Why won’t Donovan Mitchell sign an extension this offseason?​

There is a wrinkle to the Designated Player Extension that is worth bringing up here. Designed as a tool to help teams retain their star players, the “DPE” is no longer an option for a player traded during their second contract. That means Mitchell, who was moved while on that second deal, cannot sign a “supermax” extension like Jaylen Brown just did.

That may seem like it makes it more likely for Mitchell to sign an extension this summer if he did want to stay in Cleveland, but he doesn’t get much of a benefit for doing so. He is the level of player who will sign a max contract even if he suffers a serious injury this season, so the extra security doesn’t benefit him. He can sign the same extension a year from now, or wait two years and hit unrestricted free agency.

The contract he can sign in unrestricted free agency will be the same as his extension, as if he opts out to hit free agency in 2025 he will be at nine years of service and eligible for a 30 percent maximum; his previous year’s salary is close enough that an extension would kick him up to his max.

The interesting wrinkle is that if Mitchell can hit free agency in 2026 he will have 10 years of service and be eligible for 35 percent of the cap. That could lead Mitchell to agree to a 1+1 extension next summer with the Cavs, tacking on another year with the team and allowing him to hit free agency in 2026. That could be the right middle ground for the two sides.

 

[bksballer89]

None of that matters.

The moment he is extension eligible and doesn’t sign, the rumor mill will start churning.

Doesnt matter that he has a very good reason not to extend, even if he loves Ohio.

I personally would not be comfortable letting him hit unrestricted free agency.

I been telling him this for weeks lol and his counter is how Donovan showing no signs of being unhappy/trying to leave.

As you said once he doesn't sign after bein ext eligible then all the rumors will start

 

[Shanemansj13]

None of that matters.

The moment he is extension eligible and doesn’t sign, the rumor mill will start churning.

Doesnt matter that he has a very good reason not to extend, even if he loves Ohio.

I personally would not be comfortable letting him hit unrestricted free agency.

But, he has millions of reasons to do that very thing.

Why won’t Donovan Mitchell sign an extension this offseason?​

There is a wrinkle to the Designated Player Extension that is worth bringing up here. Designed as a tool to help teams retain their star players, the “DPE” is no longer an option for a player traded during their second contract. That means Mitchell, who was moved while on that second deal, cannot sign a “supermax” extension like Jaylen Brown just did.

That may seem like it makes it more likely for Mitchell to sign an extension this summer if he did want to stay in Cleveland, but he doesn’t get much of a benefit for doing so. He is the level of player who will sign a max contract even if he suffers a serious injury this season, so the extra security doesn’t benefit him. He can sign the same extension a year from now, or wait two years and hit unrestricted free agency.

The contract he can sign in unrestricted free agency will be the same as his extension, as if he opts out to hit free agency in 2025 he will be at nine years of service and eligible for a 30 percent maximum; his previous year’s salary is close enough that an extension would kick him up to his max.

The interesting wrinkle is that if Mitchell can hit free agency in 2026 he will have 10 years of service and be eligible for 35 percent of the cap. That could lead Mitchell to agree to a 1+1 extension next summer with the Cavs, tacking on another year with the team and allowing him to hit free agency in 2026. That could be the right middle ground for the two sides.

I have said it from when the rumors started…imo it will depend on their success. I mean we get he loves NY and he loves it there but if this year they take a big step and so does Mobley it could persuade him to go the 1+1 route and try to win a championship. The other wrinkle is if NY had the space to sign him they could also be close to a contender so from that aspect not a huge dropoff. Only time will tell.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

I been telling him this for weeks lol and his counter is how Donovan showing no signs of being unhappy/trying to leave.

As you said once he doesn't sign after bein ext eligible then all the rumors will start

Yeah, the new CBA kinda fucked teams like the Cavs.

Donovan can get the same deal from any team with cap space.

I don’t know if he wants to leave or not.

But, I would not sleep well letting him become a UFA.

Cavs need to win to make his decision harder.

They have a good team.

They need to take another step.

No more 1st round wipeouts, which is unfair considering what a big step they took in the regular season.

But, all is fair in love and basketball.

They should beware of a team like Brooklyn lurking for his services.

NY is home.