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2023 offseason thread

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Pierce and Skip at out at first eliminations.

Top 3 - Gilbert and Barkley. 3rd spot is up for Barnes and Shaq. We hear Shaq’s opinion a lot more bc he is always on TNT. Not fair to take Barnes imo
 

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Ramona Shelbourne said the TWolves are one trade away from a NBA championship..

So Towns for Giannis? Sure

Will Ferrell Lol GIF
Accepted
 

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Pierce and Skip at out at first eliminations.

Top 3 - Gilbert and Barkley. 3rd spot is up for Barnes and Shaq. We hear Shaq’s opinion a lot more bc he is always on TNT. Not fair to take Barnes imo
Yea Barnes is very good. Much better than his buddy Stephen Jackson
 

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If he has back to back years averaging an efficient 21 on 13-14 shots a game and 10-11 assists, he will definitely get paid. Let’s be honest, we care about guys being playoff risers but when it comes to contracts in the league it doesn’t matter. Only about 5-6 teams every year are actually legit contenders. Everybody else is just happy to make the playoffs and maybe win a round or they’re tanking. More teams will have cap space next summer than they had this summer. In the right spot, Harden can be a winning piece. The Suns immediately come to mind. If you swap out Beal for Harden that team immediately becomes better because of fit and the roles that can be played. Harden makes the Clippers better right now as well (sorry @Mecca but true). Harden makes the Sixers better too. In a league where guys like Dillon Brooks are getting $20 million a season a James Harden deal of 3 years at 90 million with a team option in year 3 is a really solid contract. He pulls shenanigans and now he’s looking at 3 years 30-45 million with the same last year as a team option.

Nobody is giving the 6ers a haul of assets for the right to sign Harden to a long term deal.

I am sure somebody will be willing to deal for him at the deadline, but it isn’t going to be the kind of deal that makes the 76ers better.
 

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Nobody is giving the 6ers a haul of assets for the right to sign Harden to a long term deal.

I am sure somebody will be willing to deal for him at the deadline, but it isn’t going to be the kind of deal that makes the 76ers better.
I didn’t say they would. I was assessing Harden’s value on the FA market next summer in the scenario where A) he has a season like last year and B) he decides to go Fat Suit Harden and sit out.
 

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I didn’t say they would. I was assessing Harden’s value on the FA market next summer in the scenario where A) he has a season like last year and B) he decides to go Fat Suit Harden and sit out.

Obviously it isn’t helping his value.

But he has already proven that is who he is.

And he is older and less good than Kyrie.
 

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To be fair to AD, he's teammates with Lebron.

It's hard to be the alpha with the guy who has been the face of the league for at least 15 years and who is still playing at an all star level on your team.

AD probably had Lebron posters on his wall when he was a kid.

I know Lebron says he wants AD to be "the guy", but it's not like Lebron can just turn off being "the guy" since that's who he has been on every team he's been on since he was 8.

I'm not saying AD can be the alpha...just that I'm not sure we can say that he can't when he's on what the whole world sees as "Lebron's team".
Lebron is damn near 40.

Davis should step it up.

If he did, no way you get the broom in Denver and you might have even won it all.

Yes, Lebron is still all world.

But, the other guy has to stop being “ Anthony every other day to Davis “ and bring it most games.

Nobody can be on every game.

But, he appeared to be content being one of the Pips, instead of Gladys Knight.

Looks like he’s getting rewarded for it soon….

 

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Obviously it isn’t helping his value.

But he has already proven that is who he is.

And he is older and less good than Kyrie.
Kyrie got 3/120. I said Harden who shows up and is 21/10.5 again gets 3 years 90. I’m not sure where the Kyrie thing is coming from.
 

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This is hard…lol

Most of these guys obviously know the sport.

Few of them can actually talk about it intelligently.

So much hating, trolling , race baiting and hot taking.

Only thing I know for sure is, Kendrick is DEAD LAST for me.

Prince of Petty , Paul Pierce, is #2.
 

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To be fair to AD, he's teammates with Lebron.

It's hard to be the alpha with the guy who has been the face of the league for at least 15 years and who is still playing at an all star level on your team.

AD probably had Lebron posters on his wall when he was a kid.

I know Lebron says he wants AD to be "the guy", but it's not like Lebron can just turn off being "the guy" since that's who he has been on every team he's been on since he was 8.

I'm not saying AD can be the alpha...just that I'm not sure we can say that he can't when he's on what the whole world sees as "Lebron's team".

Yep, hard to be the alpha when your team (including Lebron) isn't getting you the ball enough to be that guy. He's reliant on his teammates giving up the ball. Besides, some guys just don't have that personality to be an alpha.
 

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That's fine but you called Herro half a player because he's a hunting target on D. Your logic makes Lillard half a player.

He's a better half a player though, in a league full of players that don't play much defense (especially scorers). Are you really trying to equate these two?
 

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This is hard…lol

Most of these guys obviously know the sport.

Few of them can actually talk about it intelligently.

So much hating, trolling , race baiting and hot taking.

Only thing I know for sure is, Kendrick is DEAD LAST for me.

Prince of Petty , Paul Pierce, is #2.
Yeah I agree, I do give Stephen A more credit than some, he knows the sport. I really don’t think Shaq would claim to be some guru or anything, he knows what he knows but that’s it.
 

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He’s getting extended.

So. maybe he becomes the 1 b guy everyone expects.

It will require him demanding the ball more and Ham to ensure the team continues to feed him. No more of this crap with him getting the ball outside the arc unless it's a catch/shoot situation.
 
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