2023 offseason thread

[trojanfan12]

In situations like this with Dame, both the players and the team, need to understand a couple of things.

The players need to understand that the reason the league allows teams to pay more to keep their own players is so that they will stay with the team that drafted them. It was to keep big market teams from poaching stars from small market teams after that 1st contract.

Don't take that big contract that the team can give, then demand a trade a year or 2 later and bitch when they won't accept a crap return.

For the teams, especially the small market teams, they need to understand that their stars are going to want titles. They bitched about big market teams poaching their stars, so the league designed things so that they're very likely to have their star player for at least 7-8 years before he starts looking to leave. You said you needed that to compete for titles.

If you're going to sign that player to a big contract and he's telling you he wants a team that he can win a title with...don't say you're going to give him one and then not do it...and in some cases, not even try.

 

[tlance]

In situations like this with Dame, both the players and the team, need to understand a couple of things.

The players need to understand that the reason the league allows teams to pay more to keep their own players is so that they will stay with the team that drafted them. It was to keep big market teams from poaching stars from small market teams after that 1st contract.

Don't take that big contract that the team can give, then demand a trade a year or 2 later and bitch when they won't accept a crap return.

For the teams, especially the small market teams, they need to understand that their stars are going to want titles. They bitched about big market teams poaching their stars, so the league designed things so that they're very likely to have their star player for at least 7-8 years before he starts looking to leave. You said you needed that to compete for titles.

If you're going to sign that player to a big contract and he's telling you he wants a team that he can win a title with...don't say you're going to give him one and then not do it...and in some cases, not even try.

Yeah, I blame Portland here for sure.

Dame would have stayed if Portland traded 3 to be as competitive as possible.

But that would have been incredibly stupid.

Portland is doing the right thing, but they were the ones to deviate from their promise to Dame.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yeah, I blame Portland here for sure.

Dame would have stayed if Portland traded 3 to be as competitive as possible.

But that would have been incredibly stupid.

Portland is doing the right thing, but they were the ones to deviate from their promise to Dame.

Yeah.....all they did was draft Scoot sign Grant to a ridiculous contract and today they brought back Thybulle....that isn't making them a contender.

 

[DJ Fieri]

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[thunderc]

Thunder and Sixers rookie ball

 

[raptorlife4]

Yeah, I blame Portland here for sure.

Dame would have stayed if Portland traded 3 to be as competitive as possible.

But that would have been incredibly stupid.

Portland is doing the right thing, but they were the ones to deviate from their promise to Dame.

The promise Portland made was his contract. And im sure he is getting his pay.
Every team in the NBA wants to win. Dame signed off on all of the moves they made.
By signing the supermax with Portland he made a significant larger amount of money. Mkre than he could have gotten had he left as a free agent. So now he wants his cake and eat it too.

If he wants out thats fine. Thats something he can request. However strangleholding the team he said he was loyal too by givong one team is outrageous.

He has his chance as a free agent.

 

[thunderc]

The league really needs to address this, but they won’t.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Every team in the NBA wants to win. Dame signed off on all of the moves they made.

You sure about that?

 

[thunderc]

You sure about that?

He should not have any expectation of signing off on everything, and I’m he sure he doesn’t.

 

[DJ Fieri]

He should not have any expectation of signing off on everything, and I’m he sure he doesn’t.

Not saying he should, just asking raptor....

He def should be consulted at the very least.

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[thunderc]

Tre Mann completely owning the summer league

 

[DJ Fieri]

They got Porzingis so Luka.

 

[The Q]

Not really.

Happens every year.

Ring chasers go to the team with the biggest names. That isn’t Denver.

I know. It’s just funny

The team that just won a ring can’t get ring chasers

 

[BigKen]

In situations like this with Dame, both the players and the team, need to understand a couple of things.

Players get drafted and have no choice where they start a career. If that players wants a "MAX" contract and doesn't mind playing in Portland or Pheonix or OKC, then he can take the money and stay. What a team has to realize is that those players also want to play where there's more than basketball after June. Cities like LA, NY and Miami offer a lifestyle that's exciting and vibrant. Of course, the significant difference in Miami is that there is no state income tax. So the question is this, Is that player better off playing in Miami for $55M a year at 30% or Portland or Chicago at $60M at 40%. Let's see Miami take home $35.75M or Portland take home $36? My guess is that Miami might be a hell of a lot more fun for a quarter million less. And might cost less to live there. I don't have first hand knowledge of Portland, Ore. I do live in Florida.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The promise Portland made was his contract. And im sure he is getting his pay.
Every team in the NBA wants to win. Dame signed off on all of the moves they made.
By signing the supermax with Portland he made a significant larger amount of money. Mkre than he could have gotten had he left as a free agent. So now he wants his cake and eat it too.

If he wants out thats fine. Thats something he can request. However strangleholding the team he said he was loyal too by givong one team is outrageous.

He has his chance as a free agent.

truer words could not be said

"the promise Portland made was his contract".

 

[tlance]

The promise Portland made was his contract. And im sure he is getting his pay.
Every team in the NBA wants to win. Dame signed off on all of the moves they made.
By signing the supermax with Portland he made a significant larger amount of money. Mkre than he could have gotten had he left as a free agent. So now he wants his cake and eat it too.

If he wants out thats fine. Thats something he can request. However strangleholding the team he said he was loyal too by givong one team is outrageous.

He has his chance as a free agent.

No.

Dame would have left instead of signing if Portland told him they were looking to rebuild.

 

[tlance]

The promise Portland made was his contract. And im sure he is getting his pay.
Every team in the NBA wants to win. Dame signed off on all of the moves they made.
By signing the supermax with Portland he made a significant larger amount of money. Mkre than he could have gotten had he left as a free agent. So now he wants his cake and eat it too.

If he wants out thats fine. Thats something he can request. However strangleholding the team he said he was loyal too by givong one team is outrageous.

He has his chance as a free agent.

He is trying to use any leverage he has to get his way.

And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

End of the day, Portland can still decide to keep him or trade him somewhere else BECAUSE he is under contract.

 

[fightinfunbags]

No.

Dame would have left instead of signing if Portland told him they were looking to rebuild.

Doubt. He was always taking the super max. Beal just did the same thing to you guys. You know neither guy had any intention of even coming close to playing out the terms of that contract right? They manipulated the rules. They got the biggest bag and they leave crap in their wake as they get their desired situation in the end. We’re lying to ourselves if we say either guy was going to stay to play out that contract.