2023 New England Patriots Roster

[Southieinnc]

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He’s the 14th ranked punter. Fantastic! He’s 2nd in the league in total punts. Do you think that plays into the amount of kicks inside the 20??
He’s 9 feet per punt from being dead last in the league. Thank god for those 3 extra yards he gets us! What a savior! Every game I have to pinch myself because our punter is average. Can’t even count how many times I’ve yelled “What a great punt!” Damn glad we drafted him!

Derp.

A 6th round pick that has made the team in his rookie year.
Using your stats, he is better than half the NFL punters.
How often does a 6th round pick stick?
He is an improving player at a position of need.

Derp!

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Not true at all. He’s actually gotten worse as the season has progressed.

Inside the 20 yard line:
1st 5 games he had 16
Last 6 games he has 9

Touch Backs:
1st 7 games he had 1
Last 4 games he has 4

So… nice try. He’s average at best right now.

From how far out? Just curious if he is punting from further out do to Mac's inability to gain yardage or even from closer to the endzone so there are more touchbacks?

 

[cheerupcharlie]

A 6th round pick that has made the team in his rookie year.
Using your stats, he is better than half the NFL punters.
How often does a 6th round pick stick?
He is an improving player at a position of need.

Derp!

I guess you can’t fucking read… look at his stats.. he’s gotten worse as the years gone on. So, he is not improving as a player. He’s regressing.

Double Derp for your dumb ass.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

From how far out? Just curious if he is punting from further out do to Mac's inability to gain yardage or even from closer to the endzone so there are more touchbacks?

It shouldn’t matter. A good kicker should be able to punt it 50 yards or just 30 yards as to not kicking it into the end zone.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

It shouldn’t matter. A good kicker should be able to punt it 50 yards or just 30 yards as to not kicking it into the end zone.

Variables always matter.

If it hits at the 5 and bounces into the end zone vs hits at the 25 and is downed at the 20.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

A 6th round pick that has made the team in his rookie year.
Using your stats, he is better than half the NFL punters.
How often does a 6th round pick stick?
He is an improving player at a position of need.

Derp!

There are currently 44 players in the NFL that were drafted in the 6th round. Plus… who was his competition in training camp? Some reject turd. Of course he’s going to make the team.

That report that gave him an A… for being a middle of the pack punter…. Well he deserves a Derp too.

 

[Yankee Traveler]

That report that gave him an A… for being a middle of the pack punter…. Well he deserves a Derp too.

Didn't you already do that?

Or you threw a "Derp" at me for questioning the validity of the A Grade he received?

 

[BigKen]

Every time a place kicker attempts a FG the stats are kept for distance. The PK that the Patriots signed yesterday is 40 for 49 in his career. His kick miss distances are not given. 40/49=81.6% roughly two misses out of every ten attempts.

Back to the punter Baringer.

11 Games 2677 Yards 47.8 Ave. 79 longest 25 inside 20 5 TB Net Ave. After All returns 42.2 and TBs

So after the ST give up yardage on a punt, that yardage is deducted from the punter, who rarely if ever is involved in punt coverage. So havunf a ST that sucks costs him 5.6 yards per punt. I can see why he was given an A. Special Teams aren't quite as good as they should be becaue returners are not calling for many fair catches. When a returner breaks one for 80 yards, it screws the punter.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

The Patriots ruined Mac Jones. In college his confidence/accuracy/leadership were fantastic. 41 touchdowns to 4 interceptions in his senior year.

450 yards and 5 touchdowns his senior year in the National Championship Game.

I know his wr’s in college are better than what he has now. He’s literally a shell of himself. Shame on you Belichick for not trying hard enough to get decent players around him.

 

[Dude]

You are exaggerating big time. Who the F cares what he did in college? And to say they ruined Mac Jones, that is richly funny. A solid QB can swim through the BS. Mac sucks, accept it and move on.

 

[sonnyblack65]

If you don't win the Super Bowl, you don't win the trophy.

Fortunately, Tom Brady learned from playing the Giants and decided to play defense and the Pats won three more of them.

Brady gave them leads in both SB's late in game, but BB's d gave up TD's in both. His defense was so great that he went 6-13 with Bledsoe, missed the playoffs in 08 with the weakest schedule and scoring like 180 point less. TB gave game winning drives in every SB, BB's D lost the losing ones, TB throws for over 500 yards vs Philly, not enough and overcame a 10 pt deficit to Seattle in 4th Q. Only to see Seattle get 75 yards on 3 plays and luckily Butler int the pass and a douchebag BB benched him in the SB loss to Philly. Pats won 3 more cause of Kraft and not BB who wanted Garrapolo here, worst judge of QB talent I have ever seen

 

[sonnyblack65]

You are exaggerating big time. Who the F cares what he did in college? And to say they ruined Mac Jones, that is richly funny. A solid QB can swim through the BS. Mac sucks, accept it and move on.

Dude I like you and respectably disagree. Mac was a good QB as shown in his rookie year. BB gave him Patricia and Judge , 2 jerkoffs like him that think their word is everything, and smartest people in the room. Ever have a job where you have 3 bosses in 3 years, they give you tools from the 70's to work with and they have you go home early 5 x to have some scrub come in and produce less? Your confidence would be shot and a QB's is way more important than a regular job. Kid got benched 4 times this year for a sceub like Zappe+

 

[sonnyblack65]

Like bringing in Rodney Harrison, Corey Dillon, Randy Moss, Wes Welker, LaGarrette Blount, Danny Amendola, Darrelle Revis, Brandon Browner, Patrick Chung, Martellus Bennett, Chris Hogan, Chris Long, Jason McCourty, Cordarrelle Patterson....

Tom did all that?
And here I thought he wanted Brown, Sanu and that Cleveland pot head..

Too funny Moss only came in because TB 12 took less , TB throws for 50 TD's and BB gets rid of him a season and half later. Nice winning with 5'9 receivers. BB drafts up to get a kicker in 4th round who missed an easy FG vs Giants to tie it up. I watched the Seattle/Dallas game where Metcalf scored 3 tds and AJ Brown is one of the best receivers in game, but we got N"Keal Harry first. Once you tards realize BB is not a good HC, denial is over, be better off

 

[cheerupcharlie]

You are exaggerating big time. Who the F cares what he did in college? And to say they ruined Mac Jones, that is richly funny. A solid QB can swim through the BS. Mac sucks, accept it and move on.

Uh…. Genius… what they do/did in college is important. Otherwise how do base where to draft someone. Mac was fantastic. There’s a reason he was drafted in the 1st round. He was runner up for rookie of the year. Went to a Pro Bowl. He was a good QB. When you have zero talent on offense what can he do? When he has coaches who are morons what can he do? And like someone else on here said, I hope he goes somewhere else and sticks it to the Patriots.

 

[nefansince75]

Too funny Moss only came in because TB 12 took less , TB throws for 50 TD's and BB gets rid of him a season and half later.

Moss got rid of himself. He wanted diva money and acted like a diva to get it. I'm not contesting any other part of your statement or blindly defending BB. You just can't put the souring of Moss on him.

 

[cheerupcharlie]

You are exaggerating big time. Who the F cares what he did in college? And to say they ruined Mac Jones, that is richly funny. A solid QB can swim through the BS. Mac sucks, accept it and move on.

You sure were cradling his nut sack year 1. Got about 20 more posts of you talking how good he is.

The Patriots did him dirty. You certainly had a boner for him his rookie season.

Drops mic……

 

[sonnyblack65]

Moss got rid of himself. He wanted diva money and acted like a diva to get it. I'm not contesting any other part of your statement or blindly defending BB. You just can't put the souring of Moss on him.

Not sure about the money but heard he was late for a meeting during a snowstorm and talked to the media about not getting enough passes during the Cassell year. He had more td catches in 07 than Matt threw that year in total. BB acts like a little **** punishing guys for being late for meetings like a snowstorm, Putin like mentality

 

[BigKen]

The reason that BB doesn't draft WRs is because he has a negative attitude toward most of them. IMO, I think he sees them as cocky and immediately thinks that they will be counter to his 'way'..

He and several other coaches and GMs openly stated that Metcalf was "too muscular" to be a WR in the NFL.

AJ Brown was a super soph, but was actually outshined by teammate DK (DeKaylis) Metcalf and declared nor the NFL as a junior (2018 )after signing a professional contract with the SD Padres in HS before attending Ole Miss. Most pro scouts had pretty much ignored him because his performance had fallen off so severely after winning the Connelly Trophy as the best football player in Mississippi in 2017.

Other than TB12, Bill has never drafted a decent QB. Deion Branch was very good but never a superstar. WRs have also been a severe weakness.

You can say whatever you want, but since the changes to playing defense against WRs and the rules limiting contact with QBs, Bill's defenses have had to adjust dramatically, while his ability to select the two most critical positions has not. One must also remember that it was BB's shutdown of the Colt's WRs and the league darling Peyton Manning that was the basis for the league making those rule changes.
He was able to make the defensive adjustments, yet for some unknown reason, has not been able to make the offensive adjusts to that defense.
If you can create such a defense, why is it that you can't figure out exactly how to beat it, by drafting and signinmg the exact opposites of it?

 

[sonnyblack65]

The reason that BB doesn't draft WRs is because he has a negative attitude toward most of them. IMO, I think he sees them as cocky and immediately thinks that they will be counter to his 'way'..

He and several other coaches and GMs openly stated that Metcalf was "too muscular" to be a WR in the NFL.

AJ Brown was a super soph, but was actually outshined by teammate DK (DeKaylis) Metcalf and declared nor the NFL as a junior (2018 )after signing a professional contract with the SD Padres in HS before attending Ole Miss. Most pro scouts had pretty much ignored him because his performance had fallen off so severely after winning the Connelly Trophy as the best football player in Mississippi in 2017.

Other than TB12, Bill has never drafted a decent QB. Deion Branch was very good but never a superstar. WRs have also been a severe weakness.

You can say whatever you want, but since the changes to playing defense against WRs and the rules limiting contact with QBs, Bill's defenses have had to adjust dramatically, while his ability to select the two most critical positions has not. One must also remember that it was BB's shutdown of the Colt's WRs and the league darling Peyton Manning that was the basis for the league making those rule changes.
He was able to make the defensive adjustments, yet for some unknown reason, has not been able to make the offensive adjusts to that defense.
If you can create such a defense, why is it that you can't figure out exactly how to beat it, by drafting and signinmg the exact opposites of it?

"Fuck WR's , kickers and long snappers matter" BB

 

[cheerupcharlie]

Other than TB12, Bill has never drafted a decent QB.

He had Brady. Why would he ever draft a QB early? Not many good QB’s get drafted after the 1st round.

Jimmy G and Brissett were good QB’s. Jones was very good his rookie year.