2023 Free agency and trade thread

[VikingFan2k2]

Not quite that previously leaked contract, but the team was at least correct.

It was from an obvious troll account. He was laughing about it later that day.

 

[VikingFan2k2]

I am sure the new Vikings GM was pretty frustrated to see outrageous contract terms all over social media just as he was sitting down with Smith.

I still have no idea what this means for Hunter. Do we have a pair of edge rushers......or is he Hunter's replacement? Have to wait to find out I guess.

I like Smith. But that is a lot of money for a guy who didnt play last season.

We won't be able to afford to fix the secondary or the O-line if we keep Hunter at that price and barely will be able to sign our draft picks.

 

[Battlelyon]

I'm surprised Tyrann Mathieu hasn't been signed yet. A lot of rumors floating around but nothing solid. He must be asking for a long term deal that has teams being hesitant.

The number one reason probably asking for too much money

 

[Shanemansj13]

They going to pay Hunter and Smith...I know his bonus kicked in but wonder if they search for a trade partner for Hunter. That's a lot of money for two guys

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[shopson67]

We won't be able to afford to fix the secondary or the O-line if we keep Hunter at that price and barely will be able to sign our draft picks.

Not sure how much of that contract you can get out from under at this point? His $18M roster bonus guaranteed 3/20.

 

[shopson67]

They going to pay Hunter and Smith...I know his bonus kicked in but wonder if they search for a trade partner for Hunter. That's a lot of money for two guys

That bonus would be dead cap if traded, right?

 

[Shanemansj13]

Welp nvm

 

[ducky]

Welp nvm

That tweet is misleading. The Vikings always had to option of converting his roster bonus into a signing bonus. Hunter didnt have any say in it.

 

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That tweet is misleading. The Vikings always had to option of converting his roster bonus into a signing bonus. Hunter didnt have any say in it.

Do you have a link for that? The Vikings may be able to account for it as a signing bonus for cap counting purposes but for individual purposes it's still a roster bonus. The reason it was originally a roster bonus was presumably to give Hunter leverage in contract negotiations. It would preclude the Vikings, or a trading team, from clawing the money back should he hold out on a low salary in 2023. I doubt he has unilaterally given up that leverage and that the reclassified signing bonus' could be recovered.

 

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Later addition to above:

To be clear i'm not saying you're wrong. Teams can convert salary to signing bonus without permission. They can't then use it against the player later. Technically this wouldn't be any different. It's just that the original contract has an unusual structure.

 

[ducky]

Do you have a link for that? The Vikings may be able to account for it as a signing bonus for cap counting purposes but for individual purposes it's still a roster bonus. The reason it was originally a roster bonus was presumably to give Hunter leverage in contract negotiations. It would preclude the Vikings, or a trading team, from clawing the money back should he hold out on a low salary in 2023. I doubt he has unilaterally given up that leverage and that the reclassified signing bonus' could be recovered.

The Danielle Hunter decision is coming soon

Vikings always had the recently in vogue void years in his contract since his restructure last offseason. So it gave them the flexibility to do this if they needed to.

Edit: Here is a better link: Analysis of Vikings paying roster bonus for Danielle Hunter

 

[Shanemansj13]

 

[BigFin]

Hopefully Armstead stays healthy

 

[Tapey]

Per Source MLB the show and @Tapey have come to an agreement on a copy of the game pending release of game. More to come

 

[FlyerFinFan]

Hopefully Armstead stays healthy

No risk no reward love the deal much needed. Most were saying over 20 M per year this is fantastic.

 

[Ickey Shuffle]

High injury risk + age. Yikes.

 

[Shanemansj13]

High injury risk + age. Yikes.

Yep a lot of money but if healthy he is one of the top LT's.

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

I'm a litle surprised Indy didn't go after Armstead. I agree with the risk of injury and al that but damn, they had the cash and everything in place.

 

[HaroldSeattle]

Yep a lot of money but if healthy he is one of the top LT's.

Any time you have to use "but when healthy" it's a trap and best avoided.