2022 NBA Offseason thread

[DJ Fieri]

He is a very good stretch 5.

Great shot blocker too.

Hoping they do get Turner and Hield.....if Turner flops under the bright lights (don't think he will).....let him walk.

And we could flip Bryant or Jones around the deadline for a team looking for a backup C for the playoff push. Get a 2nd.

 

[DJ Fieri]

People still do that?

Wouldn't know.....never trolled before.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Ok. Playing DEVILS ADVOCATE.

James takes about 7-8 a game and I think he can up his to 38%. He made 37% a few seasons ago.

Bev would get his 4-5 a game and I think he can rebound after a down shooting year.

Nunn can make some treys at a respectable clip. Career 36.4% shooter.

Melo comes back? And I think it's possible. He can shoot. Averaged 6 last season and made 38%.

Reaves made 32% as a rookie and can certainly up that to 34-35%. Like most youngsters improve.

League average last season for teams was like 35%.

Just buying out or flat out releasing RW makes them better at outside shooting, made just 29%.

That's possible.

Where do you think that ranks you?

I say top 6 in the west.

Is that good enough?

 

[DJ Fieri]

That's possible.

Where do you think that ranks you?

I say top 6 in the west.

Is that good enough?

No, probably still 7-8 if healthy....

With Hield and Turner they could be top 5, maybe top 4. Hield isn't the sexy name but he's what James and AD need.....I could see him hitting 43-45% of his treys. Guy is a sniper. Turner is the post presence they need and he can rebound and defend....and hit the 3 on occasion.

Irving would have been perfect, but less drama with Hield and Turner.

 

[DJ Fieri]

And Turner playing for his next contract.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Hoping they do get Turner and Hield.....if Turner flops under the bright lights (don't think he will).....let him walk.

And we could flip Bryant or Jones around the deadline for a team looking for a backup C for the playoff push. Get a 2nd.

Don't see a reason that Turner will flop if you have realistic expectations.

He's never averaged over 14.5 ppg and he's a pretty weak rebounder for a guy his size with 7 per game.

But, he can clean up a bunch of shit at the rim.

 

[trojanfan12]

For sure alot of speculation going on here. As you mentioned TJF12, if the Indiana deal falls away, the Lakers have now been implicated in proposed trades with the Bees for Hayward and Rozier. Kyrie will be a long-term interest. Moving Westbrook out the door is the more pressing immediate issue. The sticking point in all of this continues to be just how many, (if at all) future draft picks the Lakers are willing to part with in any proposed trades.

Depending on who you read, one day the Lakers are willing to let go two Number ones, the next day they are not going to include any. I still think Jeannie Buss doesn't want to trade anymore future draft picks, especially Number ones because I am quite certain she understands that when the James era finally ends in three or less years, the Lakers will then be in nearly full-on rebuild mode and you won't be able to do much when you have mortgaged away all those Number Ones.

The most logical thing I've heard is that they will give up both number 1's if it will significantly improve the team. They aren't giving them both up just to move Westbrook.

Apparently, Jeanie doesn't want to give up both picks and had to be convinced to allow it for the right deal.

I think that both are essentially right. Obviously, with Lebron, it's win now, so moving both picks has to be on the table...but at the same time, as you mention, you don't want to mortgage the future if the deal doesn't make you a contender or at least set you up with pieces to move or add to for a re-build.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Don't see a reason that Turner will flop if you have realistic expectations.

He's never averaged over 14.5 ppg and he's a pretty weak rebounder for a guy his size with 7 per game.

But, he can clean up a bunch of shit at the rim.

The bright lights of Laker-land aren't for everybody.


LOL.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Perk agrees with me. Russ should not be traded as Beverly will bring out the best out of Russ

Russ' fit is still a puzzle piece that doesn't fit with this roster. Can they be better than next year? Absolutely and a lot of that has to do with AD and his injuries but they don't have a legit shot with Russ on the roster. Even getting a top seed they will get exposed in the playoffs. It's time to move on.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I actually think Hield and Turner could play well with AD and James and we bring back Turner.....the next FA class isn't that great.

Just add some players wanting a chance at a title. Especially, we have a deep run in the playoffs with the new additions.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Uh....

G-Beverley (for say 25-28mpg)
G-Hield
F-James
F-AD
C-Turner

That's a pretty good starting 5. Especially if they stay healthy.

Miles better than what they have now, it gives them a shot at least

 

[DJ Fieri]

The most logical thing I've heard is that they will give up both number 1's if it will significantly improve the team. They aren't giving them both up just to move Westbrook.

Apparently, Jeanie doesn't want to give up both picks and had to be convinced to allow it for the right deal.

I think that both are essentially right. Obviously, with Lebron, it's win now, so moving both picks has to be on the table...but at the same time, as you mention, you don't want to mortgage the future if the deal doesn't make you a contender or at least set you up with pieces to move or add to for a re-build.

Hield and Turner accomplishes that.

Turner is still young and Hield is in his prime.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Miles better than what they have now, it gives them a shot at least

The entire starting 5 can hit the 3.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

And Turner playing for his next contract.

Absolutely.

As long as he's healthy, he helps you.

The Lakers should get this done.

Clippers, Grizz, Nugz have series injury issues.

Lakers could easily find themselves in the Conference Finals like Dallas did last year and Atlanta the year before.what

 

[DJ Fieri]

Absolutely.

As long as he's healthy, he helps you.

The Lakers should get this done.

Clippers, Grizz, Nugz have series injury issues.

Lakers could easily find themselves in the Conference Finals like Dallas did last year and Atlanta the year before.what

Yeah, Just need James and AD to play in 65 games and Turner too. Pray Hield doesn't miss a lot of games for the first time, he's been a workhorse.

And bring back Melo for 20mpg on the 2nd team.

 

[The Q]

There is no way that the Lakers SHOULD bring Westbrook to camp after all this.

He's a hothead.

Bev is a troll.

Toxic does not begin to describe combining those two personalities.

They should keep them together all season…

 

[trojanfan12]

Hield and Turner accomplishes that.

Turner is still young and Hield is in his prime.

I tend to agree. I think that deal does both. It wouldn't make them favorites, but it would put them in the convo and then you trust a healthy Lebron in the playoffs. If you don't get it done, those are still pieces that can be added to or moved for picks/players depending on how they choose to rebuild.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Hield and Turner accomplishes that.

Turner is still young and Hield is in his prime.

Yeah....

I find it bewildering that some folks don't see that.

You aren't giving up 2 firsts to move Westbrook.

You are giving up 1 to move him and the other to get the players.

Like, does anyone believe the Clippers gave OKC the house for Paul George?

No.

They gave it up for George AND Kawhi.

We couldn't get 1 without the other.

Plus, the argument that you won't have any picks if you do this is false.

You can't trade any more picks because of the swaps and protections placed on the Davis trade.

It's the kinda like the situation that the 6ers had this year.

They had to wait until the Nets decided o. Taking this year's pick.

Rob shit the bed on negotiating that aspect of the deal.

You will have a pick this year.

You will have one 2 years from now.

This article explains it well.



Just because the Lakers can’t trade first round picks doesn’t mean they won’t have any. In 2023, the Lakers will begin a complicated series of pick swap options with the Pelicans. Simply put, New Orleans has the right to swap picks with the Lakers and take whichever pick between their’s and Los Angeles’ is better for multiple years.

The Lakers will have an interesting situation arise in 2024, if the world still exists by then. The Pelicans have the right to take the Lakers’ 2024 pick, or they could simply kick it down the road a year and take the team’s 2025 pick. Because the Lakers won’t know where their pick goes until, presumably, after the draft lottery and the order is set, this pick won’t be tradeable until just before the draft at the earliest, if at all

 

[The Q]

Yeah....

I find it bewildering that some folks don't see that.

You aren't giving up 2 firsts to move Westbrook.

You are giving up 1 to move him and the other to get the players.

Like, does anyone believe the Clippers gave OKC the house for Paul George?

No.

They gave it up for George AND Kawhi.

We couldn't get 1 without the other.

Plus, the argument that you won't have any picks if you do this is false.

You can't trade any more picks because of the swaps and protections placed on the Davis trade.

It's the kinda like the situation that the 6ers had this year.

They had to wait until the Nets decided o. Taking this year's pick.

Rob shit the bed on negotiating that aspect of the deal.

You will have a pick this year.

You will have one 2 years from now.

This article explains it well.



Just because the Lakers can’t trade first round picks doesn’t mean they won’t have any. In 2023, the Lakers will begin a complicated series of pick swap options with the Pelicans. Simply put, New Orleans has the right to swap picks with the Lakers and take whichever pick between their’s and Los Angeles’ is better for multiple years.

The Lakers will have an interesting situation arise in 2024, if the world still exists by then. The Pelicans have the right to take the Lakers’ 2024 pick, or they could simply kick it down the road a year and take the team’s 2025 pick. Because the Lakers won’t know where their pick goes until, presumably, after the draft lottery and the order is set, this pick won’t be tradeable until just before the draft at the earliest, if at all

The Complications Of Protecting Far-Off Traded Picks

The Lakers will face protection-related challenges as they mull trading their 2027 and 2029 first-rounders.

www.hoopsrumors.com

This is why it’s hard for the lakers while they’re being greedy.

 

[thunderc]

There is no way that the Lakers SHOULD bring Westbrook to camp after all this.

He's a hothead.

Bev is a troll.

Toxic does not begin to describe combining those two personalities.

And for that reason alone it has to happen