2022 NBA Offseason thread

[bksballer89]

Was fun while it lasted

 

[Shanemansj13]

Was fun while it lasted

Good. I didn't consider them "in the running". Altman is not going to toy around with Ainge and his demands.

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Did he not have friends before he was drafted?

I'm confused as to why this statement was made.

Is this meant to be an excuse for his poor play?

Aren't Monk and Reaves in his age range?

There are about 4 million people living in Los Angeles.

Make your own damn friends.


At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go run around with or whatever. This is an old team with a bunch of veteran guys and like he didn’t have a bunch of friends.

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kin…

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go ru…

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[Retroram52]

Mecca, FYI. AS of 2020, you have about 10.04 million peeps living in LA County. Don't know how big the County is and what exactly that encompasses but you might have 4 million peeps living LA City proper (minus suburbs or boroughs). I am not sure. Just an FYI. No undies-wadding actions intended.

 

[The Q]

Did he not have friends before he was drafted?

I'm confused as to why this statement was made.

Is this meant to be an excuse for his poor play?

Aren't Monk and Reaves in his age range?

There are about 4 million people living in Los Angeles.

Make your own damn friends.


At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go run around with or whatever. This is an old team with a bunch of veteran guys and like he didn’t have a bunch of friends.

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kin…

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go ru…

hoopshype.com

I mean, it’s usually hard making friends as an adult.

It is curious why none of his teammates like him

Although even tht can probably relate more to Lebron than to people his own age

 

[Mecca of the “B” Team]

Mecca, FYI. AS of 2020, you have about 10.04 million peeps living in LA County. Don't know how big the County is and what exactly that encompasses but you might have 4 million peeps living LA City proper (minus suburbs or boroughs). I am not sure. Just an FYI. No undies-wadding actions intended.

Yeah, no worries.

I was indeed talking about the City of Los Angeles.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yeah....

I find it bewildering that some folks don't see that.

You aren't giving up 2 firsts to move Westbrook.

You are giving up 1 to move him and the other to get the players.

Like, does anyone believe the Clippers gave OKC the house for Paul George?

No.

They gave it up for George AND Kawhi.

We couldn't get 1 without the other.

Plus, the argument that you won't have any picks if you do this is false.

You can't trade any more picks because of the swaps and protections placed on the Davis trade.

It's the kinda like the situation that the 6ers had this year.

They had to wait until the Nets decided o. Taking this year's pick.

Rob shit the bed on negotiating that aspect of the deal.

You will have a pick this year.

You will have one 2 years from now.

This article explains it well.



Just because the Lakers can’t trade first round picks doesn’t mean they won’t have any. In 2023, the Lakers will begin a complicated series of pick swap options with the Pelicans. Simply put, New Orleans has the right to swap picks with the Lakers and take whichever pick between their’s and Los Angeles’ is better for multiple years.

The Lakers will have an interesting situation arise in 2024, if the world still exists by then. The Pelicans have the right to take the Lakers’ 2024 pick, or they could simply kick it down the road a year and take the team’s 2025 pick. Because the Lakers won’t know where their pick goes until, presumably, after the draft lottery and the order is set, this pick won’t be tradeable until just before the draft at the earliest, if at all

I'd even be willing to add a 2nd rounder to the deal because 1st for Hield and Turner? Kind of head scratching since they are both good players at best and solid at worst.

 

[DJ Fieri]

And for that reason alone it has to happen

Ain't gonna lie, I wouldn't mind it happening in preseason to see what happens.

 

[DJ Fieri]

The Complications Of Protecting Far-Off Traded Picks

The Lakers will face protection-related challenges as they mull trading their 2027 and 2029 first-rounders.

www.hoopsrumors.com

This is why it’s hard for the lakers while they’re being greedy.

But, in the next draft they could take a player and then trade it to another team if they have a deal in place before the draft.

That shit happens.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yeah....

I find it bewildering that some folks don't see that.

You aren't giving up 2 firsts to move Westbrook.

You are giving up 1 to move him and the other to get the players.

Like, does anyone believe the Clippers gave OKC the house for Paul George?

No.

They gave it up for George AND Kawhi.

We couldn't get 1 without the other.

Plus, the argument that you won't have any picks if you do this is false.

You can't trade any more picks because of the swaps and protections placed on the Davis trade.

It's the kinda like the situation that the 6ers had this year.

They had to wait until the Nets decided o. Taking this year's pick.

Rob shit the bed on negotiating that aspect of the deal.

You will have a pick this year.

You will have one 2 years from now.

This article explains it well.



Just because the Lakers can’t trade first round picks doesn’t mean they won’t have any. In 2023, the Lakers will begin a complicated series of pick swap options with the Pelicans. Simply put, New Orleans has the right to swap picks with the Lakers and take whichever pick between their’s and Los Angeles’ is better for multiple years.

The Lakers will have an interesting situation arise in 2024, if the world still exists by then. The Pelicans have the right to take the Lakers’ 2024 pick, or they could simply kick it down the road a year and take the team’s 2025 pick. Because the Lakers won’t know where their pick goes until, presumably, after the draft lottery and the order is set, this pick won’t be tradeable until just before the draft at the earliest, if at all

So smart.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Did he not have friends before he was drafted?

I'm confused as to why this statement was made.

Is this meant to be an excuse for his poor play?

Aren't Monk and Reaves in his age range?

There are about 4 million people living in Los Angeles.

Make your own damn friends.


At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go run around with or whatever. This is an old team with a bunch of veteran guys and like he didn’t have a bunch of friends.

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kin…

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go ru…

hoopshype.com

He seems like a major introvert.

 

[The Q]

He seems like a major introvert.

Yup. It’s extra hard for us

(97% introvert)

 

[DJ Fieri]

Thinking about driving to Los Angeles to talk to Rob.....

@Black Adam and @trojanfan12 what's your schedule looking like in the next few days?

 

[trojanfan12]

Did he not have friends before he was drafted?

I'm confused as to why this statement was made.

Is this meant to be an excuse for his poor play?

Aren't Monk and Reaves in his age range?

There are about 4 million people living in Los Angeles.

Make your own damn friends.


At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go run around with or whatever. This is an old team with a bunch of veteran guys and like he didn’t have a bunch of friends.

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kin…

Chris Vernon: At one point when I talked to some people connected to Talen Horton-Tucker, he was kind of on an island. He’s like the only young guy, like he didn’t have buddies to go ru…

hoopshype.com

I get it to a point. It's not unlike Kobe when he was drafted to a veteran Lakers team and used to spend time on the road in his hotel room playing video games because he wasn't old enough to go out to the clubs with his teammates.

Problem for THT is he ain't Kobe. lol

As for his play, I think it has more to do with being put in a position to play importatnt minutes before he was ready. If the team stays healthy, he's looking at mop up minutes and developing him in practice. Instead, he was forced to play real minutes on a team that was expected to compete for a title. He clearly wasn't ready for that.

That's not to say that he ever would be if he wasn't put in that situation, that's just how it has played out.

 

[DJ Fieri]

I get it to a point. It's not unlike Kobe when he was drafted to a veteran Lakers team and used to spend time on the road in his hotel room playing video games because he wasn't old enough to go out to the clubs with his teammates.

Problem for THT is he ain't Kobe. lol

As for his play, I think it has more to do with being put in a position to play importatnt minutes before he was ready. If the team stays healthy, he's looking at mop up minutes and developing him in practice. Instead, he was forced to play real minutes on a team that was expected to compete for a title. He clearly wasn't ready for that.

That's not to say that he ever would be if he wasn't put in that situation, that's just how it has played out.

He's basically heading into his 3rd season (1st season was a redshirt year basically, played in 6 games) and just 21.

He always struck me as a super quiet dude and a major introvert.

 

[Black Adam]

Thinking about driving to Los Angeles to talk to Rob.....

@Black Adam and @trojanfan12 what's your schedule looking like in the next few days?

Lemme know. We gotta talk some sense into that cat...

 

[DJ Fieri]

That is the holdup in trading the picks.

"As the Lakers mull the possibility of attaching their 2027 first-round pick and/or their 2029 selection to Russell Westbrook‘s contract in order to acquire multiple rotation players, the potential protection on those first-rounders will be a major consideration.

NBA clubs are generally hesitant to move unprotected first-round picks, especially when they’re so far down the road — after all, it’s entirely possible that neither LeBron James nor Davis will be a Laker by 2027. Los Angeles will want to give itself some protection – even if it’s light protection – in the event that the club bottoms out and that ’27 pick ends up at No. 1."

 

[The Q]

That is the holdup in trading the picks.

"As the Lakers mull the possibility of attaching their 2027 first-round pick and/or their 2029 selection to Russell Westbrook‘s contract in order to acquire multiple rotation players, the potential protection on those first-rounders will be a major consideration.

NBA clubs are generally hesitant to move unprotected first-round picks, especially when they’re so far down the road — after all, it’s entirely possible that neither LeBron James nor Davis will be a Laker by 2027. Los Angeles will want to give itself some protection – even if it’s light protection – in the event that the club bottoms out and that ’27 pick ends up at No. 1."

But they can’t delay the picks too much either

So protections means significant downside

Stop being greedy and just make the move lol

 

[DJ Fieri]

Back to back AFC title games with Sanchez under center.....

 

[DJ Fieri]

But they can’t delay the picks too much either

So protections means significant downside

Stop being greedy and just make the move lol

Oh, I agree but like TJ12 said.....they don't want to make the move if it means they are just a little better.....but a lot better.