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2022 NBA Offseason thread

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That's never been in doubt (well, maybe not the bit about Kyrie, since Russ at least shows up every day). His value is as an expiring contract and/or any assets attached to him.

Hopefully when discussions begin in earnest the Lakers aren't precious about these draft picks. If they aren't confident they will be still contending in 5 years, new management is needed. The Lakers have never been about bottoming and out and rebuilding in my lifetime with the exception of the years leading up to AD/Lebron. I suppose there was a mini-rebuild in the early 90s, but the picks were #10 or later. Prior to Randle's selection in 2014 (starting that run of early lottery picks), the Lakers hadn't been in the high lottery since 1982 (Worthy) and 1979 (Magic). There were 5 picks earlier than the 20s in between, none before than #10. They have always reloaded via trade and free agency.
The problem becomes do the Lakers have enough assets they’re willing to send in a three team deal:
They take on Kyrie from the Nets - have to pay assets
They ship the RW contract to another team - they have to pay assets
 

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The problem becomes do the Lakers have enough assets they’re willing to send in a three team deal:
They take on Kyrie from the Nets - have to pay assets
They ship the RW contract to another team - they have to pay assets

One pick to each (or two if 2nds) should suffice. Depending on who the Nets get from the third team, a pick to the Nets may not even be warranted. As noted, Kyrie is a negative asset for them, they just don't want Westbrook's contract.
 

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Pretty sure it is Kenny Lofton’s son.

Just maybe not THAT Kenny Lofton.
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One pick to each (or two if 2nds) should suffice. Depending on who the Nets get from the third team, a pick to the Nets may not even be warranted. As noted, Kyrie is a negative asset for them, they just don't want Westbrook's contract.
The Nets don't get a pick for trading Kyrie? Well damn, that's what they get for signing a looney.

More realistic. All picks come from Lakers. Spurs might want more though

Spurs get: Russ, '25 1st, '25 2nd
Nets get: '27 1st, '27 2nd
Lakers get: Kyrie, McDermott

Kyrie might have a very low value you now but Russ is more of a negative value than Kyrie. The Nets still get a pick but like @Mecca said the Spurs might deserve more. I think that trade is somewhat fair for all parties
 

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Kyrie might have a very low value you now but Russ is more of a negative value than Kyrie. The Nets still get a pick but like @Mecca said the Spurs might deserve more. I think that trade is somewhat fair for all parties
In that example, sure. But if the Nets were to take back say Richardson and/or McDermott, the picks go to the Spurs.
 

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In that example, sure. But if the Nets were to take back say Richardson and/or McDermott, the picks go to the Spurs.

The Spurs have WAY too many 2's/3's and they just drafted Branham. Better off unloading those, I'm not sure they get more picks for unloading bad contracts. Maybe BKN only gets a 1st but they deserve something. Kyrie >>>>> Russ whether they have leverage or not, they have more than LA

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The Spurs have WAY too many 2's/3's and they just drafted Branham. Better off unloading those, I'm not sure they get more picks for unloading bad contracts. Maybe BKN only gets a 1st but they deserve something. Kyrie >>>>> Russ whether they have leverage or not, they have more than LA

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The Nets only have leverage if they are willing to keep an unhappy Kyrie to the trade deadline or end of year. No other takers have come forth and he intends to get to the Lakers next summer if not now.
 

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The Nets only have leverage if they are willing to keep an unhappy Kyrie to the trade deadline or end of year. No other takers have come forth and he intends to get to the Lakers next summer if not now.
Well they don't have to take him. I agree the Spurs deserve more but you really think they aren't getting anything back for Kyrie? So they just give him away. Maybe they get one of those contracts but a pick too
 

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Well they don't have to take him. I agree the Spurs deserve more but you really think they aren't getting anything back for Kyrie? So they just give him away. Maybe they get one of those contracts but a pick too

They would be getting a player or two (if they want them of course). Even in the Durant trade, they are prioritizing players over picks.
 

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The Spurs have WAY too many 2's/3's and they just drafted Branham. Better off unloading those, I'm not sure they get more picks for unloading bad contracts. Maybe BKN only gets a 1st but they deserve something. Kyrie >>>>> Russ whether they have leverage or not, they have more than LA

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