2022 Lions Off-Season Thread

[Gulf of Brazil]

It is much better than what Robinson or Godwin will get. They are over 15 mil/yr

It would still be expensive at nearly 12M annual average per year if that's what it'll take and depending how contract is written with possible early out.

I'd rather see Holmes draft a potential WR1 at a much lower cost than going the route of Free Agency.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

@Old Lion You can keep the following link in mind that I posted a couple of weeks ago when thinking of signing an UFA WR

Over the last four seasons of free agency, just two of the 32 premium free agents (total contract value of at least $8 million) at wide receiver have topped 1,000 receiving yards. Only four have caught at least 70 passes in the first season with the new team.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Free agency preview: 5 linebackers the Lions should consider

The Lions need an infusion of talent at the linebacker position. Who should they consider?

www.prideofdetroit.com

Bobby Wagner​

De’Vondre Campbell​

Foyesade Oluokun​

Kyzir White​

Josey Jewell​

or fly with re-signing JRM and recently signed Josh Woods and hope to draft a LB and save cap dollars

 

[Mebert]

Free agency preview: 5 linebackers the Lions should consider

The Lions need an infusion of talent at the linebacker position. Who should they consider?

www.prideofdetroit.com

Bobby Wagner​

De’Vondre Campbell​

Foyesade Oluokun​

Kyzir White​

Josey Jewell​

or fly with re-signing JRM and recently signed Josh Woods and hope to draft a LB and save cap dollars

Wagner does not fit the timeline, but I bet he could teach Barnes a lot. Not sure that amount is worth the lessons, but I like thinking about it.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Wagner does not fit the timeline, but I bet he could teach Barnes a lot. Not sure that amount is worth the lessons, but I like thinking about it.

I agree with like the thinking and mentoring and not only Barnes but a possible drafted LB.
The $$$ he may want and quite possibly playing for a team that has the roster to compete for a SB probably weighs more than coming to Detroit and ending his career on a team most likely not vying for a playoff slot just yet.

 

[Old Lion]

I disagree.
LS Daly should be retained as having 1 year of chemistry and cohesion with Fox Is Imortant.
Tommy Kraemer should be retained also until they come across another option whether it be through UFA or draft. Kraemer is depth for training camp.
PK Riley Patterson performed admirably and should be considered as possible replacement for the other two larger than life PK, Sebert and Rojas.

Retaining any of these ERFA's doesn't create any guaranteed money and in some cases minimal cap hits to absolutely zero cap hit.

I agree with Patterson. Missed him somehow. LS is a dime a dozen. Kraemer had 1 good game and sucked after that.

 

[Old Lion]

It would still be expensive at nearly 12M annual average per year if that's what it'll take and depending how contract is written with possible early out.

I'd rather see Holmes draft a potential WR1 at a much lower cost than going the route of Free Agency.

I wouldnt see CHark as a 1. He would be a 2. Agree we need to draft a 1.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

LS is a dime a dozen.

Tell that to the Muhl or even Jack Fox.
GD, you are set in your ways and here I know I can be

 

[Old Lion]

Free agency preview: 5 linebackers the Lions should consider

The Lions need an infusion of talent at the linebacker position. Who should they consider?

www.prideofdetroit.com

Bobby Wagner​

De’Vondre Campbell​

Foyesade Oluokun​

Kyzir White​

Josey Jewell​

or fly with re-signing JRM and recently signed Josh Woods and hope to draft a LB and save cap dollars

I wouldnt mind Campbell but we will have to keep the price reasonable.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

I wouldnt mind Campbell but we will have to keep the price reasonable.

One outstanding year and everyone is slobbering all over him because he made Pro Bowl and All-Pro.
Falcons let him go.
Cardinals let him go.

 

[Old Lion]

One outstanding year and everyone is slobbering all over him because he made Pro Bowl and All-Pro.
Falcons let him go.
Cardinals let him go.

Thats why I said keep it reasonable. If some team wants to overpay then more power to them. Campbell fits Glenn's defense.

And he had several pretty good years.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

DeVondre Campbell


Regular Season
Playoffs

	Games	Def Interceptions	Fumbles		Tackles
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Yds	TD	Lng	PD	FF	Fmb	FR	Yds	TD	Sk	Comb	Solo	Ast	TFL	QBHits	Sfty	AV	Awards
2016	23	ATL	ROLB	59	11	10	1	7	0	7	7	1	0	0	0	0	0.0	48	35	13	5	0		4
2017	24	ATL	RLB	59	16	16	0	0	0	0	4	1	0	0	0	0	2.0	92	61	31	3	6		7
2018	25	ATL	MLB	59	16	13											1.5	94	63	31	4	3		5
2019	26	ATL	LLB	59	16	15	2	-5	0	0	5	3	0	1	0	0	2.0	129	75	54	6	2		8
2020	27	ARI	LILB	59	16	16	0	0	0	0	3	1	0	0	0	0	2.0	99	69	30	7	2		8
2021+	28	GNB	LB	59	16	16	2	15	0	13	5	2	0	1	3	0	2.0	146	102	44	6	6		14	AP1

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

@Old Lion
Not that it's definitive but. 2017 good season/2021 extraordinary year
He doesn't have a high % of missed tackles versus run (less than 7%) but a bit higher versus coverage
De'Vondre Campbell

overall grades

2016 .......... 55.7 ..............147th versus run ................. 59.8 ............. 90th coverage .............. 75% comp rate ................ 5 TD
2017 .......... 69.1 .............. 82nd versus run ................. 68.2 ............. 39th coverage .............. 70% comp rate ................ 1 TD
2018 .......... 56.6 .............. 63rd versus run .................. 50.6 ..............137th coverage ............. 78% comp rate ............... 3 TD
2019 .......... 50.1 .............. 71st versus run ................... 41.1 ..............144th coverage ............. 84% comp rate ............... 4 TD
2020 .......... 49.0 ........... 125th versus run ................... 51.5 ............. 110th coverage ............. 72% comp rate ............... 1 TD
2021 .......... 85.0 ................ 7th versus run .................... 82.1 ................ 7th coverage ............. 78% comp rate ................ 2 TD

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Coming soon to a neighborhood near You

Report: Detroit Lions to release EDGE Trey Flowers

The Lions are moving on from their starting edge rusher.

www.prideofdetroit.com

According to OverTheCap.com, the Lions will incur a $12.85 million cap hit for releasing Flowers but will also clear $10.4 million in new cap space for 2022.

 

[broncosmitty]

It is much better than what Robinson or Godwin will get. They are over 15 mil/yr

Those other two are a different class of player.


But I wouldn’t offer any of the three a deal.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Detroit Lions re-sign C Ryan McCollum, EDGE Rashod Berry

The Lions add two more depth options on either side of the line.

www.prideofdetroit.com

McCollum could be competing for the Lions’ backup center job in 2022, as Brown is a restricted free agent going into this offseason.

Week 14 when he started in place of Ragnow’s replacement Evan Brown. But he was also asked to step up in Week 18 after Brown was injured. Unfortunately, he only played 30 snaps before Jonah Jackson shifted over from guard to center.

Berry made five game appearances as a rotational defender, logging 62 snaps, three tackles, and a quarterback hit.

 

[Gulf of Brazil]

Does not include signing of Reynolds or release of Flowers at this time

It’s not an unexpected move. Flowers is due a $1.6 million roster bonus on Friday, March 18th and the Lions don’t want to pay any more than needed. Depending on the structure of the release, the Lions will save at least $10.386 million in salary cap room for 2022. If designated a post-June 1st release, that figure goes up to $16 million.

Detroit Lions Salary Cap | Over the Cap

Detroit Lions salary cap, contracts, bonus money, dead money, and cap savings for every player

overthecap.com

Total Cap Liabilities: $202,251,678

• Top 51: $183,720,892
• Team Cap Space: $25,793,894
• Offense: $104,475,149
• Defense: $85,205,743
• Special: $4,405,000

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Contracted Players (64 total)​

 

[Old Lion]

Those other two are a different class of player.


But I wouldn’t offer any of the three a deal.

Robinson is getting old and Godwin is coming off serious injury and may not be the same. Robinson still the best of the 3 overall but he is not as good a fit as Chark.

 

[Old Lion]

Does not include signing of Reynolds or release of Flowers at this time

It’s not an unexpected move. Flowers is due a $1.6 million roster bonus on Friday, March 18th and the Lions don’t want to pay any more than needed. Depending on the structure of the release, the Lions will save at least $10.386 million in salary cap room for 2022. If designated a post-June 1st release, that figure goes up to $16 million.

Detroit Lions Salary Cap | Over the Cap

Detroit Lions salary cap, contracts, bonus money, dead money, and cap savings for every player

overthecap.com

Total Cap Liabilities: $202,251,678

• Top 51: $183,720,892
• Team Cap Space: $25,793,894
• Offense: $104,475,149
• Defense: $85,205,743
• Special: $4,405,000

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Contracted Players (64 total)​

Probably pays for our entire draft this year.

 

[broncosmitty]

Robinson is getting old and Godwin is coming off serious injury and may not be the same. Robinson still the best of the 3 overall but he is not as good a fit as Chark.

Chark is always hurt. I’ll be pissed if they offer him a deal.


Robinson is atleast a local guy. But I don’t want him either.