2022 Free Agents

[ulmax]

there are more needed..but im hoping for a few trades....soo

 

[NWinAZ]

there are more needed..but im hoping for a few trades....soo

The only problem with trades is that we have few players of value to get talent back in a deal and those few players of value are needed. I know that is Dipoto's method, but it is time to start adding without subtracting. Sign free agents!!!!

 

[SeattleCoug]

I would have to disagree with the point of his production not being difficult to replace. He is a 90+ RBI guy and those don't grow on trees. Could Semien replace him? In theory, yes but that only makes us a bit better compared to having Semien and a 90+ RBI guy. I like Toro, but would not put him in Seager's category at this time.

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Seager's homer and rbi numbers stand up yeah and lets say he ends at 35/100 there, it might one of the lowest WRC+/OPS seasons of a 35/100 guy ever. I really think Toro can step in you at the very least wouldnt lose too much. Plus that is his best position, he's tried at 2nd but he's gonna lose value there long term. I love Seager and if the team wasnt so cheap and they didnt basically throw him under the bus last winter, I'd say just pick up the option. But it seems clear they wont.

For me it is Semien or bust with the top SS's. I would move him to 2B as well. Not big on the others for various reasons. Would take Taylor as a starting infielder/outfielder.

I agree Semien is the one I want. No chance they pony up for Correa, that will be a Yankees move if he's leaving houston or maybe the Padres really go all in since Tatis might be moving to the OF. Seager/Baez/Story are good players but they are gonna get contracts that I'd rather not deal with.

Taylor because of his versatility and being RH. He fits our style with some speed as well. Joc is intriguing. He wouldn't break my heart.

Yea Taylor would be great. Would mean Moore doesnt have to be here either. But yeah just need a guy that play OF and specifically cover CF at times, Taylor definitely can do that.

No more rejects or bounce back types Mariners. Time to step up. Kikuchi probably is back on the player option, and if so, make him the LH stopper in the pen. If he doesn't want that, then tell him not to pick up his option.

If it were that easy I'd keep Anderson over Kikuchi but I know thats not how things work. Im kinda secretly hoping he pulls a Kaz Sasaki or Johjima and goes home on his own but we will see. He is an intriguing pen option though

 

[SeattleCoug]

I missed this part above. I actually like Torrens as a platoon bench player who can catch if needed, play 1B and 3B in a pinch. He has probably the only legit power bat from the right side off the bench.

I'd definitely prefer Torrens over Murphy I just think Torrens is gonna net you more in a trade so that's why I have Muprhy penciled in to stay.

 

[NWinAZ]

I really think Toro can step in you at the very least wouldnt lose too much. Plus that is his best position, he's tried at 2nd but he's gonna lose value there long term. I love Seager and if the team wasnt so cheap and they didnt basically throw him under the bus last winter, I'd say just pick up the option. But it seems clear they wont.

Totally agree here. I don't do all the new fancy stats, but just think 90+ RBI's is hard to replace. Not sure how many guys have hit that mark for us in the last 10 years? Okay I looked it up. We have had 12 players hit the 90+ RBI mark in the last 10 seasons including this year and Seager has 4 of the 12.

I agree Semien is the one I want. No chance they pony up for Correa, that will be a Yankees move if he's leaving houston or maybe the Padres really go all in since Tatis might be moving to the OF. Seager/Baez/Story are good players but they are gonna get contracts that I'd rather not deal with.

Yes except for the Correa part. Agree the player would be nice, but I can't stand the person and what he and Altuve pulled.

Yea Taylor would be great. Would mean Moore doesnt have to be here either. But yeah just need a guy that play OF and specifically cover CF at times, Taylor definitely can do that.

Yes and easily moved to another position or team if Rodriguez breaks down the door and makes the jump.

If it were that easy I'd keep Anderson over Kikuchi but I know thats not how things work. Im kinda secretly hoping he pulls a Kaz Sasaki or Johjima and goes home on his own but we will see. He is an intriguing pen option though

100% nailed that.

I'd definitely prefer Torrens over Murphy I just think Torrens is gonna net you more in a trade so that's why I have Muprhy penciled in to stay.

Good point, but I am actually not looking at either or. I am considering Torrens just for his bat (I can't believe I just wrote that) off the bench and some DH'ing while being a 3rd catcher, backup 1B, and backup 3B. I think his bat could stick in the right scenario.

 

[ulmax]

The only problem with trades is that we have few players of value to get talent back in a deal and those few players of value are needed. I know that is Dipoto's method, but it is time to start adding without subtracting. Sign free agents!!!!

i think if he does that it will be ...bull pen or ..rotation...not as likely...with the rotation though......
bull pen still needs final touches..as you have mentioned.so if it happens..it may..be..there

flex pen..and go have a............ beer.......

do you have any gray.......dubon

for example

 

[ulmax]

Mauricio Dubón #26​

• SS
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 0"/173
• Age: 27

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• Mauricio Andre Dubón
• Born: 7/19/1994 in San Pedro Sula, Honduras
• Draft: 2013, Boston Red Sox, Round: 26, Overall Pick: 773
• High School: Capital Christian, Sacramento, CA
• Debut: 7/07/2019

 

[ulmax]

when it was time for him to be at ..MLB..there was a pandemic...so...maybe you tube it..

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[ulmax]

my list
Max Scherzer 31

Trevor Story 27 Aaron Loup 32 there own guys Tyler Anderson 31 Yusei Kikuchi 18 Kyle Seager 15 signing there own guys..will not add much more....maybe some..but not..a lot..........of what they are already..spending//other//free agents....will ...up..the anni..(poker)

 

[ulmax]

he is a back up type guy....but he is hitting..268..at..mlb...but the nationals are going in a diff ..direction/.....with...Keibert Ruiz 20.

so for mariners..it would be..Cal Raleigh 29..barrera..then torrens.......i expect cal ..will hit better next year..and become ..a power hitter..RH..power hitter

Tres Barrera #13​

• C
• B/T: R/R
• 6' 0"/206
• Age: 27

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• Felipe Jesus Barrera
• Born: 9/15/1994 in Eagle Pass, TX
• Draft: 2016, Washington Nationals, Round: 6, Overall Pick: 184
• College: Texas

 

[ulmax]

 

[seahawksfan234]

Man... Normally when it comes to free agency I have very strong opinions but I feel like this year there are so many variables. Every time I look at this roster I see so many different things that could happen.

This would never happen, but feel free to laugh at this idea: Sign Kris Bryant (3B), Marcus Semien (SS) and Max Scherzer. Keep Toro at 2B, trade J.P. Crawford and *insert prospects here* for another top of the rotation pitcher.

It's nice to dream but those moves I think would make the Mariners legit in 2022.

 

[NWinAZ]

Man... Normally when it comes to free agency I have very strong opinions but I feel like this year there are so many variables. Every time I look at this roster I see so many different things that could happen.

This would never happen, but feel free to laugh at this idea: Sign Kris Bryant (3B), Marcus Semien (SS) and Max Scherzer. Keep Toro at 2B, trade J.P. Crawford and *insert prospects here* for another top of the rotation pitcher.

It's nice to dream but those moves I think would make the Mariners legit in 2022.

That isn't crazy. I think JP is the heart and soul of the team with his hustle and attitude, but he is no Semien though he is way cheaper. I would 100% do what you proposed. Mariners won't, but you nailed it. Crawford should bring back a good piece.

 

[NWinAZ]

I like Toro, but...

 

[ulmax]

basically..
adding
toro and taylor put the mariners close...as they are today.........
some questions...
like
RH ..power hitters......france..haniger....and next year...lewis...and i have to say this...with lewis..uninjured...they mariners would be going to the playoffs for sure.......
and
Cal Raleigh 29..is a future ..power hitter...makes...4 of 9.....and torrens coming off the bench...for now..makes 6...disagree on needing a RH..power hitter
now a Lh..guy...maybe...so i will do a small line up...to...show....
1..J.P. Crawford 3...L/L.ss
Mitch Haniger 17...RF
really could use a LHh...right here.........DH
Ty France 23...1B.
5..Kyle Seager 15...L/L..3B
6 Kyle Lewis 1 ....CF/LF./..DH
7Jarred Kelenic 10......LF...L/L
8Cal Raleigh 29.....catch
or right ..here.................DH
9 Abraham Toro 13

the 2 guys off the bench right now.....a LHH..and a right

Luis Torrens 22...catch ..1b/3b...im not sure on torrens ake Fraley 28...........Lf..i dont think they will trade fraley..they need him........

catcher is a need....and they have no more time to mess...around with ..it
and moore...really good on defence..but not on offence...yet.....and dont get me wrong i really like moore...but there is no ..more ..time..
the mariners need to re-vamp..there bench....

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but now we are talking about next year.....maybe...cuz they still have a chance this year........

 

[ulmax]

an other spot could be......move ...
Cal Raleigh 29..up to 7 and even 6..with lewis down to 7..,the mariners could..run..on the bases..after..Cal Raleigh 29
and
Jarred Kelenic 10..down to 8

 

[ulmax]

Evan White 12 IL-60..future power ..hitter..makes 1 more......IMO..they wont ..be trading....... WHITE...either..

Evan White #12​

• 1B
• B/T: R/L
• 6' 3"/220
• Age: 25

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• Evan McKee White
• Born: 4/26/1996 in Columbus, OH
• Draft: 2017, Seattle Mariners, Round: 1, Overall Pick: 17
• College: Kentucky
• Debut: 7/24/2020

 

[SeattleCoug]

Yes and easily moved to another position or team if Rodriguez breaks down the door and makes the jump.

From everything I've read he should be knocking on the door to make his debut next year. Obviously not at the start because the service time stuff but I think we really do have a special kid here, even more so then Jarred

 

[SeattleCoug]

Evan White 12 IL-60..future power ..hitter..makes 1 more......IMO..they wont ..be trading....... WHITE...either..

Evan White #12​

• 1B
• B/T: R/L
• 6' 3"/220
• Age: 25

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• Evan McKee White
• Born: 4/26/1996 in Columbus, OH
• Draft: 2017, Seattle Mariners, Round: 1, Overall Pick: 17
• College: Kentucky
• Debut: 7/24/2020

I'm just giving him next year in the minors. He never really showed he could even dominate at AAA so I say let him play there next year.

 

[SeattleCoug]

The more I think about it, the more I feel that a trade might be the route to go to land a top of the rotation starter.

Something that probably wont happen but I hope we make a phone call at least is to the Indians and check in on Bieber/J-ram