2021 Trade Deadline

[LHG]

https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/mlb/miami-marlins/article252875053.html

I'm okay with this, if the price is right. If the main reason would be Duggar's bat cooling off, it should be noted that Marte's bat has been doing the same. Marte is a proven commodity but he's been up and down the past few years and is a free agent after this season.

 

[tzill]

If you’re talking about a rental, maybe. If you’re talking about a four year deal - hell no.

 

[LHG]

Apparently, both the Mariners and Mets have both recently stated that they are going to be buyers at the trading deadline and are looking for starting pitching. Its going to be interesting the cost, in prospects, the Giants will have to dish out for rotation help. Hopefully, it won't be too much or it will be worth it (i.e. World Series title).

 

[pachyderm]

Yeah I think we're actually at least one year ahead on the rebuild. I don't think anyone expected this kind of success this season.

IMHO that is...

So I'd hate to bankrupt the future.

 

[filosofy29]

Yeah I think we're actually at least one year ahead on the rebuild. I don't think anyone expected this kind of success this season.

IMHO that is...

So I'd hate to bankrupt the future.

Agreed. I wouldn’t trade Heliot for any rental, yet alone for Marte lol.

 

[LHG]

If you’re talking about a rental, maybe. If you’re talking about a four year deal - hell no.

Yeah I think we're actually at least one year ahead on the rebuild. I don't think anyone expected this kind of success this season.

IMHO that is...

So I'd hate to bankrupt the future.

Agreed. I wouldn’t trade Heliot for any rental, yet alone for Marte lol.

In that article, Marte claims to want to stay in Miami but, apparently, 3 years wasn't long enough so he wants to leave. Talk about only saying what you think will get you money. I'm okay with acquiring Marte if the prospects sent to Miami isn't nearly as step as Ramos. And, like tzill said, a 4 year extension is a bad idea.
And besides, I strongly disagree with the author's assessment that center field is a gaping hole for the Giants. Duggar has done well, except for recently. The author clearly showed himself to a home team homer when he called Marte's slump a mini slump but categorizes Duggar's slump as a glaring hole.

 

[tzill]

Bottom line: Marte won’t fix the bullpen. That’s the weak link.

 

[msgkings322]

On the radio I forget who the sports pundit was who they asked about targets for the Giants, but he said as far as the pen they probably won't be in on Kimbrel (too expensive) but might look at names like Ian Kennedy, Kendall Graveman, or Brad Hand as stopgap closers for this year.

The playoffs are different anyway, you don't need 5 starters so that adds one arm to the pen right there. And you often use 4-5 pitchers per game in the playoffs, the starters don't have to go 7 every day.

One thing is for sure, we don't have 2014 Bumgarner to just dominate a series. We'll be mixing and matching.

 

[LHG]

On the radio I forget who the sports pundit was who they asked about targets for the Giants, but he said as far as the pen they probably won't be in on Kimbrel (too expensive) but might look at names like Ian Kennedy, Kendall Graveman, or Brad Hand as stopgap closers for this year.

The playoffs are different anyway, you don't need 5 starters so that adds one arm to the pen right there. And you often use 4-5 pitchers per game in the playoffs, the starters don't have to go 7 every day.

One thing is for sure, we don't have 2014 Bumgarner to just dominate a series. We'll be mixing and matching.

I would be a bit surprised if Graveman is available. The Mariners aren't that far off so trading off players would really tick off the fanbase. The Nationals have said that this next few games will determine whether they sell or not. I wouldn't be surprised if they do sell, though, so Hand's availability is very possible.
As for Kennedy, my concern is that this is his first year closing. Not sure he is really any different than Jake McGee in that slot. He'd still be a nice addition to the bullpen though, just not at the price of what a team would expect to get for a closer.

 

[msgkings322]

I would be a bit surprised if Graveman is available. The Mariners aren't that far off so trading off players would really tick off the fanbase. The Nationals have said that this next few games will determine whether they sell or not. I wouldn't be surprised if they do sell, though, so Hand's availability is very possible.
As for Kennedy, my concern is that this is his first year closing. Not sure he is really any different than Jake McGee in that slot. He'd still be a nice addition to the bullpen though, just not at the price of what a team would expect to get for a closer.

Sure just reporting what they said, I love knowing we have a good GM we can trust to figure out something.

 

[tzill]

I would be a bit surprised if Graveman is available. The Mariners aren't that far off so trading off players would really tick off the fanbase. The Nationals have said that this next few games will determine whether they sell or not. I wouldn't be surprised if they do sell, though, so Hand's availability is very possible.
As for Kennedy, my concern is that this is his first year closing. Not sure he is really any different than Jake McGee in that slot. He'd still be a nice addition to the bullpen though, just not at the price of what a team would expect to get for a closer.

I’m not sure there is really much out there aside from Kimbrel that is an upgrade to the back of the bullpen. Also, with Long, Moronta and Sanchy due back I’m not sure there is an overwhelming need in long relief either.

Might just go for a SP and shuffle guys in long relief.

 

[LHG]

I’m not sure there is really much out there aside from Kimbrel that is an upgrade to the back of the bullpen. Also, with Long, Moronta and Sanchy due back I’m not sure there is an overwhelming need in long relief either.

Might just go for a SP and shuffle guys in long relief.

The problem is that there are not many options for starting help either and most buyers have publicly said that they want to upgrade their starting rotation.

 

[LHG]

Sure just reporting what they said, I love knowing we have a good GM we can trust to figure out something.

Understood. Just giving my thoughts on the names they gave.

 

[Hangman]

We need a closer and set up man not a centerfielder

 

[msgkings322]

We need a closer and set up man not a centerfielder

Just a closer

 

[msgkings322]

I’m not sure there is really much out there aside from Kimbrel that is an upgrade to the back of the bullpen. Also, with Long, Moronta and Sanchy due back I’m not sure there is an overwhelming need in long relief either.

Might just go for a SP and shuffle guys in long relief.

We need a guy who can handle the 9th. Maybe Moronta?

 

[LHG]

We need a guy who can handle the 9th. Maybe Moronta?

He seemed to be doing okay for the brief time he was healthy this year. The question, can he get, and stay, healthy? If the majority of guys on the IL can get healthy in the next few weeks, this team may not need much at the trade deadline. That's a big if, though.

 

[LHG]

We need a closer and set up man not a centerfielder

Just a closer

I do think that Rogers and McGee would be great as the 7th/8th inning guys. Maybe one of them could even settle into the reliable reliever role. Too bad that they've had such problems in high leverage 9th inning appearances.

 

[Hangman]

If we just get a closer I will be happy.

 

[LHG]

Interesting idea. Maybe they could buy low on him. Or course, this would be a huge gamble. And the author cites a name that will make tzill blow his top.

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