2021 NBA regular season thread

[dtgold88]

Thunder now have the 4th worst record, the battle to suck is on for the rest of the season.

Was looking like Cavs/OKC were locked into 5th/6th worse records for a while....now either could end up 2nd.

Good luck.

 

[trojanfan12]

Guessing done this season as teams lost 10 games and a better chance to make up ground.

No doubt that's why they chose this season. Apparently, Adam Silver has been pushing a play in tournament for a few years. Financially speaking, this year, weird year or not, was best from that perspective.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Was looking like Cavs/OKC were locked into 5th/6th worse records for a while....now either could end up 2nd.

Good luck.

Detroit has pushed into second. The benefit of 2nd is having no worse than the 6th pick. Which for this draft is pretty key.

 

[dtgold88]

Detroit has pushed into second. The benefit of 2nd is having no worse than the 6th pick. Which for this draft is pretty key.

Exactly!! while many say no reason to tank as harder to win the lottery with new rules it matters for that reason. How much would it suck to be #6 and drop to 8 (or worse)?

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Exactly!! while many say no reason to tank as harder to win the lottery with new rules it matters for that reason. How much would it suck to be #6 and drop to 8 (or worse)?

It's a stout top 5 and then it's a pretty average draft from there imo. Getting one of the 4 or 5 top guys could be franchise changing.

 

[flyerhawk]

True, but I guess to be fair seems like all the players on teams expected to be better are complaining about potential of being in play in game....those who might be the 9-10 seed like it.

Go figure.

Yeah. Lebron is hardly alone in being a little hypocritical about this stuff.

 

[shopson67]

No matter how you describe him, he is offensively a negative value player at this point. Which is one of the reasons why the Warriors are a bottom 7 team on offense despite the heroics of Steph Curry.

Golden State is currently 14th in the league in PPG. Bottom 9 in efficiency though.

 

[dtgold88]

It's a stout top 5 and then it's a pretty average draft from there imo. Getting one of the 4 or 5 top guys could be franchise changing.

agree....Cannot say I saw him play much but some seem to like Barnes, too.

No clue what would be best for Cavs. To just be added to current team would seem like Kuminga would be best fit as just slide him in at SF. If Cade is all that he'd have to be the choice at 1, though (hope we find out). No research so wonder if he could be a SF or is he projected as a PG. If latter would seem like Garland would be the one to go to the bench.

Wonder what they'd do if they love Mobley if he's sitting there and top of their board (since they have Allen). Clear BPA, I think they need to take him or trade down a spot or 2 if possible. If they feel like he or Allen can play PF then just take him. Guessing Pistons can just go BPA and not even think about it, right?

 

[shopson67]

Hey you know me, I say the Lakers losing is a good thing. I'll be watching the game tonight. You gonna watch? Looking at the standings they have 8 games remaining. It would be funny if they go 0-8 and finish at .500.

Almost as funny as the Celtics going 2-5 to finish at .500. Given their recent play, just as or more likely. I see at least 3 losses, but the other games should be pushovers (Magic, Cavs, Wolves, maybe Bulls) as most of those teams are actively tanking.

 

[flyerhawk]

Golden State is currently 14th in the league in PPG. Bottom 9 in efficiency though.

PPGs is largely a reflection of pace of play.

 

[trojanfan12]

Yeah. Lebron is hardly alone in being a little hypocritical about this stuff.

It'll be interesting to see if their opinions change after this season.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah, heard about that on BSPN earlier today. And I agree it DOES make him look very hypocritical...

Players Union also signed off on the schedule, and Lebron was against that as well. I agree with him on both. The league rushed the start of the season and compacted the schedule. Playoff teams got a mini-offseason and many star players seem to be getting hurt, not a coincidence IMO. I hate the play-in games too, just like I hate the wildcard play-in games in baseball. Playing that many games only to potentially lose your playoff spot over one game? Terrible idea IMO; I hate gimmicks.

 

[DJ Fieri]

Yeah. Lebron is hardly alone in being a little hypocritical about this stuff.

Yep.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

agree....Cannot say I saw him play much but some seem to like Barnes, too.

No clue what would be best for Cavs. To just be added to current team would seem like Kuminga would be best fit as just slide him in at SF. If Cade is all that he'd have to be the choice at 1, though (hope we find out). No research so wonder if he could be a SF or is he projected as a PG. If latter would seem like Garland would be the one to go to the bench.

Wonder what they'd do if they love Mobley if he's sitting there and top of their board (since they have Allen). Clear BPA, I think they need to take him or trade down a spot or 2 if possible. If they feel like he or Allen can play PF then just take him. Guessing Pistons can just go BPA and not even think about it, right?

Yea detroit would do BPA. Grant can do either the 3 or the 4 imo. Killian shouldn't keep them from taking Suggs

 

[shopson67]

PPGs is largely a reflection of pace of play.

Sure, that's why I included efficiency. That said, putting that exclusively on Dray's shoulders is exaggerating; the only player on the roster with a positive offensive plus/minus above 0.5 is Steph. At least Dray balances his negative offense with strong defensive numbers to have the second best overall plus/minus on the team, unless you count Payton's 40 minutes played.

 

[WiggyRuss]

That's not really one of the reasons. Did Rodman's lack of scoring make him a negative offensive player?

the fact taht youthink Green is a realistic comparison to Rodman is all we need to know. Rodman was way better for longer.

Draymond was basically a high level NBA player for 3 MAYBE 4 seasons.

 

[msgkings322]

the fact taht youthink Green is a realistic comparison to Rodman is all we need to know. Rodman was way better for longer.

Draymond was basically a high level NBA player for 3 MAYBE 4 seasons.

Missing the point as usual

 

[thunderc]

Curious (really don't know)...other than SGA who are they still missing?

Dort is back now but it seems only plays every now and then. Bazley the same deal, Muscala been out 2 months. They are giving a bunch of minutes to a lot of guys that likely won’t be around next year. It’s a full on push for Cade Cunningham.

 

[CitySushi]

the fact taht youthink Green is a realistic comparison to Rodman is all we need to know. Rodman was way better for longer.

Draymond was basically a high level NBA player for 3 MAYBE 4 seasons.

I'd say he's already had 5 high level seasons and 1 more this year. Sure points are down, but he's averaging nearly 9 assists a game while being the best defensive player on the roster by a good margin.

I mean just surface value right now in terms of accolades

Dennis Rodman - 14 seasons
2x DPOY
2x AS
2x All NBA
8x All NBA Defense

Draymond - 9 seasons
1x DPOY
3x AS
2x All NBA
5x All NBA Defense

I don't think there even comparable to be honest because they do different things. Rodman was one of the greatest rebounders in NBA history as well as one of the best defenders.

Draymond is an Elite defender, but he's arguably the greatest (statistically anyways) play making PF in the history of the NBA.

Rodman contributed more on defense. Draymond contributes way more offensively.

 

[msgkings322]

I'd say he's already had 5 high level seasons and 1 more this year. Sure points are down, but he's averaging nearly 9 assists a game while being the best defensive player on the roster by a good margin.

I mean just surface value right now in terms of accolades

Dennis Rodman - 14 seasons
2x DPOY
2x AS
2x All NBA
8x All NBA Defense

Draymond - 9 seasons
1x DPOY
3x AS
2x All NBA
5x All NBA Defense

I don't think there even comparable to be honest because they do different things. Rodman was one of the greatest rebounders in NBA history as well as one of the best defenders.

Draymond is an Elite defender, but he's arguably the greatest (statistically anyways) play making PF in the history of the NBA.

Rodman contributed more on defense. Draymond contributes way more offensively.

Some folks just don't understand basketball