Why use Jordan as the bench mark? COMPLETELY different player and skill set. Oh, did you mean Jordan Farmar?
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Please. Lol you can call me old all you wanna, but they don't get any more real than me...Like TJ said, Happy wife=happy life.
Miserable wife=miserable life.
I added that last part....and I know you know a little sumpin' sumpin' about that as long as you have been married. Don't front, retired playa'.
I consider Lillard a top 10 player in the league, and arguably the best PG in the league (I said arguably). It's wasted because Portland has failed to surround them with any talent as they've relied on those two to carry them. The only backcourt that's been better, IMO in the last few years is Steph and Klay.
Again, that's why I say that Portland's wasted their chance as making only 1 conference finals with that backcourt talent is less than optimal.
So Lillard is a top 10 player, but not top 5.
McCollum is like a top 30ish player. Never made an all star team.
How many franchises in NBA history have won titles with a 2nd tier star (not top 5) and the 2nd best player has not made an all star team?
I can’t think of one.
Portland has done well to get to the WCF. They have not underachieved at all IMO. Lillard and McCollum are not a championship 1-2.
He's missed 5 or 6 straight games.Didn't know he was having issues. Hope it's nothing serious. I like watching him play.
Could be wrong, but I think Heatles point is that Portland as an organization underachieved because they had a special talent like Dame and another at least near all star player and never put a team around them that could truly contend.
Is he special though?
Again, top 10 and a near all star is not enough to contend. I can’t think of a time where it was.
I get his point. I just don’t agree.
Good luck.Yes, I accepted the bet... unless I screwed it up somehow, which is possible.
I wish you the worst of luck.
^ Sucks to that.Good luck.
Yep.I get the MJ comparison because Lebron is in the GOAT convo and some think he already is.
But, MJ and Lebron has always been an ill fitting comparison based on how each plays.
Lebron's game has always favored Magic far more than MJ. Kobe is who you compare to MJ.
He and AD ain't playing.^ Sucks to that.
I hope LeBron James gets a hang nail... and that hang nail festers and gets kinda infected.