2021 NBA regular season thread

[Iggloo]

What happened to the Celtics?

 

[AD2022MVP]

You are projecting what's in your own head onto the rest of us. These thoughts of yours are not widely shared. And GTFO with Butler being better than Kawhi

My thoughts are right, if you don't share them then you're wrong. As for Butler being better than Kawhi. I only see people viewing it that way if Kawhi doesn't win a ring with the Clippers and he leaves to join Butler in Miami. If that happens then Kawhi will be viewed as inferior to Butler because he's going to his team to be saved.

 

[AD2022MVP]

See, that is where you are wrong.

Kawhi Leonard is a better player than Jimmy Butler.

As of now but if Kawhi can't win with LAC and has to have Butler save his ass then he longer is better than him.

 

[trojanfan12]

As of now but if Kawhi can't win with LAC and has to have Butler save his ass then he longer is better than him.

By your "lawjik", if the Clippers win a title this year, then Rondo will be a better player than Kawhi.

 

[msgkings322]

My thoughts are right, if you don't share them then you're wrong. As for Butler being better than Kawhi. I only see people viewing it that way if Kawhi doesn't win a ring with the Clippers and he leaves to join Butler in Miami. If that happens then Kawhi will be viewed as inferior to Butler because he's going to his team to be saved.

Nope. By this logic Lowry is better than Kawhi too.

 

[AD2022MVP]

By your "lawjik", if the Clippers win a title this year, then Rondo will be a better player than Kawhi.

You have to at least be one of the best players on your team too. And I don't think Rondo will be that leader they need. If the Clips win it will be PG or Kawhi stepping up to be the leader.

 

[trojanfan12]

You have to at least be one of the best players on your team too. And I don't think Rondo will be that leader they need. If the Clips win it will be PG or Kawhi stepping up to be the leader.

But you can also be the best player on the team and not be the leader.

I don't think Rondo will be either, but he's their only chance at having that type of leader.

 

[msgkings322]

By losing to Boston?

Oops.

 

[msgkings322]

Kerr: Can't force issue with Wiseman's growth

Steve Kerr is confident Warriors rookie James Wiseman will find his rhythm down the stretch of the season but said Monday that you "can't force the issue" by giving the big man more minutes.

www.espn.com

@msgkings322

The article is interesting. I'm not pretending I'm smarter or know more about hoops than Kerr. He's forgotten more than I'll ever know. He's a championship coach, championship player, former GM and former NBA Analyst. He's worn every hat and along the way received knowledge that I will never be able to get.

The article mentions that you can't just force players minutes to get them experience and develop. This may be true for some players, but coming into this draft Wiseman had the smallest amount of actual court time of any of the players drafted. Wiseman played 4 games in college. At some point you need to get him court time.

It's Kerr's inconsistency that baffles me. Here's what Steve Kerr said on March 5th, right before he moved Wiseman back into the lineup:

“The last couple of weeks, his minutes have been down a little bit,” said Kerr, who moved Wiseman into a bench role in late January after starting him the first 16 games of the season. “We’ve really been in a mode here where we’ve kind of given him the slot minutes at the end of the first (quarter) and the end of the third (quarter), and then, if he’s earned more, we’ve put him out there for more.

“But where we are right now, he needs to play more. There’s no doubt we’ve got to develop him. And I would say over the last couple of weeks, he has not played as much as he will.”

I mean Kerr previously acknowledged that he needed to play Wiseman more to help him develop, but all of a sudden now he's got to earn all time. He cites he needs Summer League and Training camp next year to improve. What do those have in common? Court time. Real in game learning in addition to practices.

Some fair points but one can't get too caught up in 'consistency' especially with interview comments. Things change, and coaching is about adapting to what's working or not. Maybe he sees it differently now a month later...

 

[WiggyRuss]

Kerr: Can't force issue with Wiseman's growth

Steve Kerr is confident Warriors rookie James Wiseman will find his rhythm down the stretch of the season but said Monday that you "can't force the issue" by giving the big man more minutes.

www.espn.com

@msgkings322

The article is interesting. I'm not pretending I'm smarter or know more about hoops than Kerr. He's forgotten more than I'll ever know. He's a championship coach, championship player, former GM and former NBA Analyst. He's worn every hat and along the way received knowledge that I will never be able to get.

The article mentions that you can't just force players minutes to get them experience and develop. This may be true for some players, but coming into this draft Wiseman had the smallest amount of actual court time of any of the players drafted. Wiseman played 4 games in college. At some point you need to get him court time.

It's Kerr's inconsistency that baffles me. Here's what Steve Kerr said on March 5th, right before he moved Wiseman back into the lineup:

“The last couple of weeks, his minutes have been down a little bit,” said Kerr, who moved Wiseman into a bench role in late January after starting him the first 16 games of the season. “We’ve really been in a mode here where we’ve kind of given him the slot minutes at the end of the first (quarter) and the end of the third (quarter), and then, if he’s earned more, we’ve put him out there for more.

“But where we are right now, he needs to play more. There’s no doubt we’ve got to develop him. And I would say over the last couple of weeks, he has not played as much as he will.”

I mean Kerr previously acknowledged that he needed to play Wiseman more to help him develop, but all of a sudden now he's got to earn all time. He cites he needs Summer League and Training camp next year to improve. What do those have in common? Court time. Real in game learning in addition to practices.

not a great pick- though the draft was not exactly great- esp. at the top.

the funniest part about that article i thought was that he talks to Durant on a daily basis Wiseman said. I am sure that thrills Kerr. lol.

with your guys big man rotation- he basically has to play. Justifying him sitting the bench and playing some of the backups is just not a good look for a #2 overall pick.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Oladipo has not been near the player he was before his injury. Its been a while since he had it at this point too.

The price was cheap for Miami so i get the trade and would have done it too- but no way would i give him 25 million a year for 3 years at this point. His efficiency is down the drain and his athleticism isnt what it used to be.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Garland played like 4 college games-- just turned 21 in January.

He has looked really good of late. Shooting 40% from 3 and 45% from the field is pretty good.

they need an athletic wing that can be a threat and just make plays so bad. Whether its a 2, 3 or 4.

Suggs would be amazing to get. If they had a shot at Cunningham at #1 honestly i might even pass on it for suggs at this point. Who knows- just please get a top 4-5 pick.

then let it gel for a year or two and let the guys develop.

Suggs is only 6'4- so i dont know what you do there---- I think a Garland/Suggs back court would be a very nice fit. They would have some serious debating to do about what to do with Sexton at that point.

If they get pick 5--- it would be close between Barnes and Kuminga. Barnes really looked good towards the end of the season. Kuminga is just an amazing athlete. Prob. the best in the class.

Mobley - i just dont know- he looks great- but hes a pure center and they have Allen who is only 22.

 

[trojanfan12]

Have to give the Lakers credit. Doing better than I thought with no Bron or Davis

Just gotta stay around .500 until Lebron and AD get back.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Clips just put up 47 in the first quarter vs. the Blazers. Unreal. That team can look amazing at times.

 

[trojanfan12]

Clips just put up 47 in the first quarter vs. the Blazers. Unreal. That team can look amazing at times.

Pfft, the Lakers scored 40 in the first quarter without Lebron and AD.

 

[WiggyRuss]

big surprise that when the Hawks got Gallinari and Bogdonovic back- and they got healthy and in shape that htey took off.

Hawks and Mavs were bad at the beginning of the year- but both seem to have figured it out to a certain extent. I dont expect either to do a whole lot- the hawks have chance to win a playoff series i suppose- but those teams needed to show progress this year and it looked pretty dismal for both early on. credit to them.

the Rockets are just so bad...lol.....

 

[WiggyRuss]

Pfft, the Lakers scored 40 in the first quarter without Lebron and AD.

the raptors have pretty much mailed it in beside that historic beat down of the Warriors a few games back.

I am honestly scared of the Cavs passing them- which just should not be possible.

 

[trojanfan12]

the raptors have pretty much mailed it in beside that historic beat down of the Warriors a few games back.

I am honestly scared of the Cavs passing them- which just should not be possible.

Agree with that. Their season has just fallen apart.

Just looked at the standings...yeah, your Cavs are only 2 games back. Nervous time. lol

 

[fightinfunbags]

What happened to the Celtics?

I for one have really enjoyed this sweep. Let’s be honest, the Cs roster construction says that they don’t even consider the Sixers a threat as they planned their franchise. If they did, they’d have a competent 5 that could at least attempt to body him up. But they have seemingly no issue being trash there.

 

[WiggyRuss]

I for one have really enjoyed this sweep. Let’s be honest, the Cs roster construction says that they don’t even consider the Sixers a threat as they planned their franchise. If they did, they’d have a competent 5 that could at least attempt to body him up. But they have seemingly no issue being trash there.

shouldve traded for drummond.