2021 NBA regular season thread

[trojanfan12]

I dont see how being the best rebounder in the league is no impact

If hed just consistently apply himself on D and take what he can on offense.....

It's about how/when the stats are being accumulated. For rebounding it could be things like, not being in proper position on either end of the floor because he's to busy trying position himself to get the rebound instead of, for example, boxing a couple of guys out so a teammate can get the rebound.

It's like when Westbrook won the MVP for averaging a triple double...all of those triple doubles he had, didn't really have a lot of impact on winning. A lot of them were just empty stats, (scoring inefficiently, teammates going out of their way to make sure he gets rebounds, staying in during blowouts, etc.).

If Drummond comes in and understands that he's going to be sacrificing stats for a chance at a title, he'll find that he'll have fewer stats, but the stats that he does have, will have a direct impact on winning.

 

[thunderc]

Heat need another big badly. Precious brings very little to the table

I’m sorry but if you expect much out of that name that’s on you

 

[trojanfan12]

I hope so. He would be perfect for the Lakers. But I also read the Magic aren't planning to release him

lol

Who knows? They could definitely use a 3 and D guy like him though.

 

[bksballer89]

Rus currently with 25-20-10

 

[bksballer89]

Rus currently with 25-20-10

Ended up with 35/21/14

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I’m sorry but if you expect much out of that name that’s on you

 

[flyerhawk]

Ended up with 35/21/14

That is a pretty insane stat line

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

Not the best of starts for Fournier in a C's uni....

 

[flyerhawk]

Not the best of starts for Fournier in a C's uni....

0-10? Ouch.

 

[bksballer89]

Not the best of starts for Fournier in a C's uni....

He scored more points than you did?

 

[Shaqdaddy11]

He scored more points than you did?

Well, my +/- was a solid 0

His was -12

And i'll match those numbers for half of what he's getting paid!

 

[shopson67]

Maybe. There were a lot of teams that were VERY scared that he would never play a game in the NBA. The Sixers were in a situation where their GM had no interest in being good the next season so the choice was easy for them. Would Jim Buss have been willing to make that same choice?

Obviously they didn't know ahead of time, but Randle played about half a game and missed the rest of his rookie season too.

 

[shopson67]

other big difference is McGee will do what he's asked and Drummond is selfish.

Admittedly, thought McGee was a dunderhead but didn't see that behavior here.

He's cut that way back, but the occasional blunder still slips through.

So far, Drummond is saying the right things, so I guess we can only wait and see.

 

[Wamu]

Can't argue.

Oh yes I can. What's the topic?

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah and I was fine with the response. I'm just not sure what the Sixers have to do with it.

Well, once reason I'm fine with it was they are only in year 3 of their rebuild with really shitty lottery luck so pointed out a few teams who took 6, 7 and 8 seasons to make the playoffs AND had far better lottery picks. Philly happened to be one of those teams.

 

[shopson67]

I'll answer your question...You wondered why they are just mediocre and I pointed out it's only year 3 of their rebuild while it took LA 7 years, NY is in year 8 and Philly 6 to make the playoffs. And, yes, pointed out Philly was aided with a couple #1 picks in their rebuild while the Cavs never picked above 5th.

Guess what I'm wondering is how are the Cavs previous #1 picks not with team supposed to have helped in their current rebuild (and don't forget they got a title and 4 other Finals' trips out of those #1s)?

Well, those previous high firsts (if better chosen) could've brought more trade capital back to the team (other than Wiggins). Waiters got them Shump/JR and a protected 1st from OKC that didn't materialize, and Bennett was a throw in on the Wiggins deal. Not a lot of building for the future value from those trades, other than Kevin Love (and there lies another argument best left aside). Trading Kyrie for Isaiah Thomas, Zizic, Crowder and the 2018 Nets 1st. Those assets got them Clarkson (gone for Exum), Nance, and Sexton (Zizic still on the roster). Three firsts and Kyrie got them Nance, Sexton, and (at this point) the downside of Love's career to build around essentially.

Besides, nitpicking about whether a team picked 1st or top 5 is a bit lost in the weeds IMO. They traded away 1sts in 2016 and 2017 with Lebron in house, then picked 8th, 5th and 5th. The Sixers picked 3rd, 3rd, 1st and traded up to 1st from 3rd. Two of those picks were duds for the Sixers as well (Okafor and Fultz, bringing back little in return).

 

[shopson67]

Well, once reason I'm fine with it was they are only in year 3 of their rebuild with really shitty lottery luck so pointed out a few teams who took 6, 7 and 8 seasons to make the playoffs AND had far better lottery picks. Philly happened to be one of those teams.

It's the way of the board. Any criticism of a poster's team is directed back at the team of the criticizing poster, even if not part of the original topic.

 

[CitySushi]

Andrew Wiggins up to 39.7% from 3 this year. Previous career high was 35.6% and 34.1% for his career.

Think that's got to be because of some spacing the Warriors utilize because of Curry but also his shot selection this year has been incredibly good for the most part. Some lapses here or there, but nothing egregious.

Last night he played phenomenal defense on Zach Lavine. I like his play a lot this year. He still needs to work on not disappearing like he tends to do some times and be more consistent. It's going to be even more vital next year when Klay comes back and his touches are affected more. Hopefully this is a positive trend though.

 

[flyerhawk]

Well, once reason I'm fine with it was they are only in year 3 of their rebuild with really shitty lottery luck so pointed out a few teams who took 6, 7 and 8 seasons to make the playoffs AND had far better lottery picks. Philly happened to be one of those teams.

The Sixers weren't any luckier with the lottery. They were just consistently worse for longer and the ping pong odds favored the bad teams more. When the worst you can get is 4th and you get 3rd, 3 times, you aren't exactly crushing the lottery.

Today, the odds are much worse no matter how you finish.

 

[dtgold88]

Well, those previous high firsts (if better chosen) could've brought more trade capital back to the team (other than Wiggins). Waiters got them Shump/JR and a protected 1st from OKC that didn't materialize, and Bennett was a throw in on the Wiggins deal. Not a lot of building for the future value from those trades, other than Kevin Love (and there lies another argument best left aside). Trading Kyrie for Isaiah Thomas, Zizic, Crowder and the 2018 Nets 1st. Those assets got them Clarkson (gone for Exum), Nance, and Sexton (Zizic still on the roster). Three firsts and Kyrie got them Nance, Sexton, and (at this point) the downside of Love's career to build around essentially.

Besides, nitpicking about whether a team picked 1st or top 5 is a bit lost in the weeds IMO. They traded away 1sts in 2016 and 2017 with Lebron in house, then picked 8th, 5th and 5th. The Sixers picked 3rd, 3rd, 1st and traded up to 1st from 3rd. Two of those picks were duds for the Sixers as well (Okafor and Fultz, bringing back little in return).

Again, what does what Griffin did with the other players in his time have to do with how Altman has handled this rebuild? Altman did now have those firsts and if you have an issue with wasting them that is on Griffin. Altman turned Kyrie into Sexton and Nance.

all your complaints are based on moves Griffin made. So, you've made my point.