2021 NBA regular season thread

[dtgold88]

The Sixers weren't any luckier with the lottery. They were just consistently worse for longer and the ping pong odds favored the bad teams more. When the worst you can get is 4th and you get 3rd, 3 times, you aren't exactly crushing the lottery.

Today, the odds are much worse no matter how you finish.

Fair point, but my comments had nothing to do with luck or lack of luck. Just facts....and Philly picked 1st, 1st and 3rd while Cavs picked 5th, 5th and 8th. No doubt it's likely the new lottery rules were why the Cavs picked so low and old rules why Philly picked so high (and their trade to 1).

 

[shopson67]

Again, what does what Griffin did with the other players in his time have to do with how Altman has handled this rebuild? Altman did now have those firsts and if you have an issue with wasting them that is on Griffin. Altman turned Kyrie into Sexton and Nance.

all your complaints are based on moves Griffin made. So, you've made my point.

I'm not concerned with who made the moves, they all add up to where the team is today.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Fair point, but my comments had nothing to do with luck or lack of luck. Just facts....and Philly picked 1st, 1st and 3rd while Cavs picked 5th, 5th and 8th. No doubt it's likely the new lottery rules were why the Cavs picked so low and old rules why Philly picked so high (and their trade to 1).

You all hit gold with Kyrie and Bennett (albeit fools gold there) so not all awful

 

[dtgold88]

I'm not concerned with who made the moves, they all add up to where the team is today.

OK. But conversation more about where the current GM has them and job he has done. Surprised you didn't mention should have drafted someone better than Bennett. Hell, maybe the team is in a different spot now had Ted Stepien been smarter, not traded picks who became stars for garbage, leading to a rule named after him.

 

[shopson67]

OK. But conversation more about where the current GM has them and job he has done. Surprised you didn't mention should have drafted someone better than Bennett. Hell, maybe the team is in a different spot now had Ted Stepien been smarter, not traded picks who became stars for garbage, leading to a rule named after him.

I did mention Bennett in a roundabout way by saying those two questionable 1sts (Waiters and Bennett) didn't provide much as trade capital towards the current roster building task at hand. Clarkson for Exum ended up poor value as well.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Aldridge went to Brooklyn. That team is buying their way to a title.

So trash.

This team is basically cheating their way to a title....The basketball gods need them to not win this title

if you want to blame anyone- the person that deserves the most blame is LeBron James.

 

[bksballer89]

if you want to blame anyone- the person that deserves the most blame is LeBron James.

Miami's big 3 wasn't the first big 3 in nba history so quit with the bs

 

[WiggyRuss]

Miami's big 3 wasn't the first big 3 in nba history so quit with the bs

who are the others?

 

[bksballer89]

who are the others?

So now we're going to act like Boston big 3 of KG, Pierce, & Allen didn't exist? Cool lmfaoo

 

[WiggyRuss]

So now we're going to act like Boston big 3 of KG, Pierce, & Allen didn't exist? Cool lmfaoo

all of those guys were past 30 and both came in trades. Older big 3's were all organic or drafted.

for you to act like the super team era did not start with LeBron- which books have been written about- its just either ignorance or denial.

 

[bksballer89]

 

[dtgold88]

I did mention Bennett in a roundabout way by saying those two questionable 1sts (Waiters and Bennett) didn't provide much as trade capital towards the current roster building task at hand. Clarkson for Exum ended up poor value as well.

well by your logic don't we get to mention Exum used in the deal for Allen? They also acquired the Bucks' #1 pick used in that deal as well (and altman acquired it in his trade of Hill).

 

[Wamu]

if you want to blame anyone- the person that deserves the most blame is LeBron James.

You're such a clown. You went from kissing LeBron's ass 24/7 to his biggest critic faster than Steph can drain a three.

 

[CitySushi]

all of those guys were past 30 and both came in trades. Older big 3's were all organic or drafted.

for you to act like the super team era did not start with LeBron- which books have been written about- its just either ignorance or denial.

Oh, qualifiers now...who didn't see that coming.

The fact is there is a history of superteams winning championships. Assembling them versus them being created "organically" is just a way for you to take shots at Lebron. There is a proven track record of needing multiple NBA superstars to win championships, way before Lebron.

Kareem, Magic, Worthy
Bird, McHale, Parish
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
KG, Pierce, Ray

The formula was always there. You might not like that Lebron did it, but adding qualifiers just so you can single out Lebron is comical.

 

[WiggyRuss]

The first Superteam was ushered in when LeBron James decided to join his fellow draft-class players, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, at the Miami Heat at the end of the 2009–10 season.

The three were named "the Big 3" and would establish their dominance by making it to the NBA Finals for all of the four years that they were together, winning back-to-back titles in the 2012 NBA Finals and the 2013 NBA Finals. James had joined the Heat as a back-to-back MVP winner and equal six-time All-Star with Dwyane Wade, whilst Chris Bosh had been a four-time All-Star.

Although Superteams are mostly thought of as a fairly new concept, some have tried to apply the term to teams of the past, prior to the 2000's, due to the multiple players considered "superstars" or "stars" at the time, that were on the team. However, some refute this by claiming that the stars on these teams were past their prime and teamed up as a last ditched effort to try to win a championship, such as the 2007–2012 Celtics. Teams that feature multiple stars that were drafted by the team they play on, do not meet the "super team" criteria in many people's eyes.[

 

[WiggyRuss]

Oh, qualifiers now...who didn't see that coming.

The fact is there is a history of superteams winning championships. Assembling them versus them being created "organically" is just a way for you to take shots at Lebron. There is a proven track record of needing multiple NBA superstars to win championships, way before Lebron.

Kareem, Magic, Worthy
Bird, McHale, Parish
Jordan, Pippen, Rodman
KG, Pierce, Ray

The formula was always there. You might not like that Lebron did it, but adding qualifiers just so you can single out Lebron is comical.

maybe we can call what LeBron started the beginning of the Coward Teams?

 

[Wamu]

The first Superteam was ushered in when LeBron James decided to join his fellow draft-class players, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, at the Miami Heat at the end of the 2009–10 season.

The three were named "the Big 3" and would establish their dominance by making it to the NBA Finals for all of the four years that they were together, winning back-to-back titles in the 2012 NBA Finals and the 2013 NBA Finals. James had joined the Heat as a back-to-back MVP winner and equal six-time All-Star with Dwyane Wade, whilst Chris Bosh had been a four-time All-Star.

Although Superteams are mostly thought of as a fairly new concept, some have tried to apply the term to teams of the past, prior to the 2000's, due to the multiple players considered "superstars" or "stars" at the time, that were on the team. However, some refute this by claiming that the stars on these teams were past their prime and teamed up as a last ditched effort to try to win a championship, such as the 2007–2012 Celtics. Teams that feature multiple stars that were drafted by the team they play on, do not meet the "super team" criteria in many people's eyes.[

 

[Wamu]

maybe we can call what LeBron started the beginning of the Coward Teams?

Why don't you have the same issues with KD joining the Warriors?

 

[CitySushi]

Why don't you have the same issues with KD joining the Warriors?

Because Steph is an overrated piece of garbage, so it wasn't a superteam.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Because Steph is an overrated piece of garbage, so it wasn't a superteam.

when they signed Durant it was.

Steph is overated

definitely not garbage--- a great player- a hall of famer easily by any measure--- definitely not deserving of being a 2 time MVP though.

but 10th in the West is what it is.