2021 NBA Offseason

[SJ76]

Bulls sign Lonzo 4 yr $85 million? Is he worth that?

 

[DJ]

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Nope, Lakers will not take back a S&T, since it would hard-cap them and remove any in-season flexibility with the roster.

Can't do a double sign and trade anyway or so I am told from cap geniuses on here.

 

[shopson67]

in some ways yes---- paying a specialist who is already 27 a contract of 90M is a lot of money--- but they used Bird Rights- and since they were way capped out they couldnt bring anyone else in to replace him.

and they are clearly going for it. At least he is really good at what he does.

Its pretty much based on Joe Harris' contract with the Nets.

Plus- after the Covid caused stagnation of the cap- the cap should go up a decent amount starting next year probably. Unless issues come up like declining ratings, issues with China, etc. which I suppose are possible.

Thing is, who are they competing against at that number? Is there any team that could free up that much cap space to give him a similar offer? I think they competed against themselves a bit.

 

[DJ]

Bulls sign Lonzo 4 yr $85 million? Is he worth that?

He had a good season and has turned into a good outside shooter. Means Lavine doesn't have to do as much handling the ball.

 

[dtgold88]

It could take some time for Garland but he really is coming on. Sexton is so explosive, efficient and a great scorer but the sad part is you just can't make it as a 2 guard in this league being that small, well at least and win. You can live with a smaller PG like Garland.

I mean look at it from an age standpoint, Garland is 21 when Steph was 21 he was a rookie:

17.5 ppg 5.9 apg .462 fg % .437 3 pt % 4.8 3pa
17.4 ppg 6.1 apg .451 fg % .395 3 pt % 4.9 3pa

Not comparing them and saying Garland will become an amazing shooter like Steph but he has the ability, he is quick and his vision is already evolving. It's probably why the Cavs covet him so much, I think a lot more than Sexton but I think this year will mean everything for Sexton. If he can help the Cavs get to the playoffs, I think we could see a long-term deal. Is that the best for the organization, maybe not but he is player you would want on your team. At least they are trying to surround him with nice defensive players with length to make up for his weakness.

I mostly agree with this but not sure they covet him that much more than Sexton (if more at all). I mean, sexton showed when garland was out last year he could run the offense and he was getting 6-7+ apg. That was with many G Leaguers as teammates.

Tell sexton they might move him to the bench I'm not so sure he doesn't work his ass off and force his way back into the lineup.

But, sure, if he can be dealt for a stud wing then have at it (or Garland).

 

[DJ]

surprised Portis returned to the Bucks....has he had a good contract yet?

 

[dtgold88]

Maybe the Cavs can get him a gift card before he does?

Is that legal with the cap?

 

[tlance]

It could take some time for Garland but he really is coming on. Sexton is so explosive, efficient and a great scorer but the sad part is you just can't make it as a 2 guard in this league being that small, well at least and win. You can live with a smaller PG like Garland.

I mean look at it from an age standpoint, Garland is 21 when Steph was 21 he was a rookie:

17.5 ppg 5.9 apg .462 fg % .437 3 pt % 4.8 3pa
17.4 ppg 6.1 apg .451 fg % .395 3 pt % 4.9 3pa

Not comparing them and saying Garland will become an amazing shooter like Steph but he has the ability, he is quick and his vision is already evolving. It's probably why the Cavs covet him so much, I think a lot more than Sexton but I think this year will mean everything for Sexton. If he can help the Cavs get to the playoffs, I think we could see a long-term deal. Is that the best for the organization, maybe not but he is player you would want on your team. At least they are trying to surround him with nice defensive players with length to make up for his weakness.

I think Sexton would be great as a 6th man finisher type, like Lou Williams.

In that role the Garland/Sexton combo might make more sense, but the Cavs area couple perimeter pieces away from being able to do that.

 

[tlance]

The Lakers have become Reunion Central bringing back all these ex-Lakers. They are also getting older. Outside of THT and a few of the bench players, no youngsters (relatively speaking) there. All of Magic's draftees have been traded or shown the door. Should be interesting to see what happens in the next two-to-three years when the Lakers have to begin a rebuild by getting rid of an aging roster and have little draft assets to do it. Are they walking themselves into a corner? Perhaps.

They are the Lakers. It doesn’t matter.

As long as they have a star on their roster they can attract top free agents.

Rebuilds don’t take nearly as long in a market like LA if done right.

 

[shopson67]

This is what the Athetlic said on Robinson.

Duncan Robinson re-signs with Miami Heat | $90 million over five years:​

First and foremost, shooters get paid. That’s what happened with Duncan Robinson. And Duncan Robinson is one of the most prolific shooters we’ve ever seen. The Miami Heat sharpshooter has the second most 3-point attempts per game for his career at 7.8 taken each night. Only Steph Curry (8.6) attempts more deep shots per game in NBA history. Curry makes 43.3 percent of his career 3-pointers. Robinson is at 42.3 percent. His level of shooting is ridiculous. But what happens to these shooters if they can’t end up working in a team defense long-term? Opponents hunt him out. Khris Middleton demolished him. Is $18 million per season on a relatively one-dimensional player going to look good in four years? It’s the same thing Washington will go through with Davis Bertans.

I know it's not a perfect stat by any means, but that's a lot of money to spend on a a guy with a 11.10 PER last year. His defense (largely ignored by PER) isn't going to boost that rating either.

That career % is inflated a bit by the lockdown year. He dropped back a bit this year down to 40.8% (and his FT% dropped too, but that almost had to).

 

[dtgold88]

I think Sexton would be great as a 6th man finisher type, like Lou Williams.

In that role the Garland/Sexton combo might make more sense, but the Cavs area couple perimeter pieces away from being able to do that.

I mean, sure, IF you had someone better than him he could be a 6th man. But sexton seems like he's a lot better than Lou, Clarkson, Crawford or all the other guys I've heard people say he "could be like".

 

[DJ]

I mean, sure, IF you had someone better than him he could be a 6th man. But sexton seems like he's a lot better than Lou, Clarkson, Crawford or all the other guys I've heard people say he "could be like".

Pump the brakes on that nonsense. He hasn't been in the League long enough to be mentioned with them....LOL.

 

[tlance]

Your perseverance, TJ12, is admirable but the Kings are the ones now who have little interest in Schroeder. I gather, after reading between the lines, that obtaining Schroeder and losing Hield is step down for the Kings as they consider Schroeder somewhat of a knucklehead who has an over-exaggerated sense of his skills and basketball worth.

If the Wizards miss on Dinwiddie, they might take a swing at Schroeder.

That could allow for the Kings to be included in a 3 team deal perhaps sending Kuzma and someone else to Sacramento.

That is about the best hope the Lakers have to get an impact player for Shroeder at this point, IMO.

 

[tlance]

I mean, sure, IF you had someone better than him he could be a 6th man. But sexton seems like he's a lot better than Lou, Clarkson, Crawford or all the other guys I've heard people say he "could be like".

That is why I said they are a couple pieces away from that.

The starter wouldn’t have to be a better player than Sexton, but he would have to be able to score and defend.

And Lou Williams was really damn good.

 

[Shanemansj13]

I mostly agree with this but not sure they covet him that much more than Sexton (if more at all). I mean, sexton showed when garland was out last year he could run the offense and he was getting 6-7+ apg. That was with many G Leaguers as teammates.

Tell sexton they might move him to the bench I'm not so sure he doesn't work his ass off and force his way back into the lineup.

But, sure, if he can be dealt for a stud wing then have at it (or Garland).

It has nothing to do with his play that I think they covet him more, it's more so bc of his position. Garland is a sharpshooter PG that has great vision, you need that in this league. Another thing you need is a two way wing, Sexton isn't that but I believe he is one of the quickest guards in the NBA, if not the quickest. The combo of Garland-Allen/Mobley in the pick-n-roll is very very dangerous. They could keep both but if one goes, it's likely Sexton. Sexton is a very hard worker this isn't a slight to him, just not many two guards at this height. You can be the best defender in the world and he just doesn't have the length. I hope it works out and like I said, they seem to be surrounding them with the right pieces, guys with length and high defensive capabilities.

 

[DJ]

They are the Lakers. It doesn’t matter.

As long as they have a star on their roster they can attract top free agents.

Rebuilds don’t take nearly as long in a market like LA if done right.

BOOM.

you forgot to drop the mic. It's okay....I did it for you.

 

[Shanemansj13]

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Pump the brakes on that nonsense. He hasn't been in the League long enough to be mentioned with them....LOL.

He is saying right now and it isn't close. Clarkson did have a very solid year in Utah but Sexton is the better option at this point.

 

[Retroram52]

Hope things are going good for you, my friend.

Just real busy working lots of OT on a regular job and building a business when I am not sleeping but thanks for the sentiment!

 

[shopson67]

Yeah, there's a big deal being made out of it because he's a fan favorite. He's an energy guy who has a knack for making plays and he played well with Lebron.

I loved watching him play and will miss him being a Laker. But his overall impact isn't worth $30 million dollars.

I have to agree. I will miss the Bald Mamba though...

Maybe Reaves can become the next folk hero of sorts in a year or so.

 

[DJ]

Just real busy working lots of OT on a regular job and building a business when I am not sleeping but thanks for the sentiment!

Remember those days of yore when you and I were carrying the Laker game threads.....LOL.