2021 NBA Draft Lottery Predictions

[dtgold88]

If anything Sexton would be included in that trade or another trade. Suggs would be the guy that makes a lot of sense for the Cavs. If this trade were to happen as laid out, then you have Schroder, Garland and Suggs as their guard trio. Kuzma would be a bench guy behind Nance, Love and Okoro. I feel like getting Suggs in this draft would be great if they could move Sexton, Suggs is a true combo guard that would fit better along Garland imo

Sexton is a lot better than Schroeder and Nance can give you what Kuzma offers and probably more. Why are we better off trading Sexton for lesser players?

 

[trojanfan12]

Sexton is a lot better than Schroeder and Nance can give you what Kuzma offers and probably more. Why are we better off trading Sexton for lesser players?

I don't think Sexton is better than Schroder right now. But I do think that it's pretty darn close and that with Sexton's youth, he'll end up being the better player, maybe significantly better, within a year or 2. So, unless they just feel like they need to move him for some reason, they're better keeping him. And as you point out, Kuzma and Nance are basically the same guy.

 

[dtgold88]

I don't think Sexton is better than Schroder right now. But I do think that it's pretty darn close and that with Sexton's youth, he'll end up being the better player, maybe significantly better, within a year or 2. So, unless they just feel like they need to move him for some reason, they're better keeping him. And as you point out, Kuzma and Nance are basically the same guy.

I mean, Schroeder has never had even a 20 ppg season while Sexton was at 24+ as a 22-year-old. As far as shooting efficiency, Sexton was at 47.5% as a 22-year-old AND as the guy defenses tried to stop. schroeder has never been above 47% and every season but 2 was below 44%.

Right now? Even on a team where Lebron and AD get the defenses attention he made 43.7% of his shots and 33.5% from 3. as the main focus, Sexton was 47.5 and 37%+. Sexton is also 22 and has improved every season.

IF they move Sexton, fine, but I hope the return would not be for a guy no better than Nance and a lesser player to himself IMO.

 

[trojanfan12]

I mean, Schroeder has never had even a 20 ppg season while Sexton was at 24+ as a 22-year-old. As far as shooting efficiency, Sexton was at 47.5% as a 22-year-old AND as the guy defenses tried to stop. schroeder has never been above 47% and every season but 2 was below 44%.

Right now? Even on a team where Lebron and AD get the defenses attention he made 43.7% of his shots and 33.5% from 3. as the main focus, Sexton was 47.5 and 37%+. Sexton is also 22 and has improved every season.

IF they move Sexton, fine, but I hope the return would not be for a guy no better than Nance and a lesser player to himself IMO.

Schroder hasn't been on a team that has needed him to score like that. And how much were Lebron and AD there to draw attention away from Schroder?

I'd bet that if Sexton found himself playing alongside Lebron and AD, his stats would drop a bit too.

 

[tlance]

I mean, Schroeder has never had even a 20 ppg season while Sexton was at 24+ as a 22-year-old. As far as shooting efficiency, Sexton was at 47.5% as a 22-year-old AND as the guy defenses tried to stop. schroeder has never been above 47% and every season but 2 was below 44%.

Right now? Even on a team where Lebron and AD get the defenses attention he made 43.7% of his shots and 33.5% from 3. as the main focus, Sexton was 47.5 and 37%+. Sexton is also 22 and has improved every season.

IF they move Sexton, fine, but I hope the return would not be for a guy no better than Nance and a lesser player to himself IMO.

Sexton definitely a lot more valuable in trade than Schroeder, probably pretty similar in terms of impact though.

I don’t feel like scrolling all the way back, so I might be wrong, but if the trade was Sexton + Love for Kuzma and Schroeder than it makes sense value wise. You take the downgrades to move Love’s contract.

This is not a trade I think Cleveland would ever do, but I have definitely seen worse trade ideas.

 

[dtgold88]

Schroder hasn't been on a team that has needed him to score like that. And how much were Lebron and AD there to draw attention away from Schroder?

I'd bet that if Sexton found himself playing alongside Lebron and AD, his stats would drop a bit too.

His scoring would drop, but why would his FG% or 3 point % go down? Seems reasonable to assume those 2 would make it easier for him. Not harder.

 

[dtgold88]

Sexton definitely a lot more valuable in trade than Schroeder, probably pretty similar in terms of impact though.

I don’t feel like scrolling all the way back, so I might be wrong, but if the trade was Sexton + Love for Kuzma and Schroeder than it makes sense value wise. You take the downgrades to move Love’s contract.

This is not a trade I think Cleveland would ever do, but I have definitely seen worse trade ideas.

I've seen worse trade ideas, sure, and also agree no way Cavs' would do it. Not even sure they'd do it to attach Love's contract somehow (would take a lot more from LA to match the salary, as well, I believe).

Cannot say I expected it, but Pop seems to think more highly of Love than his critics. No idea what to make of that, but can only hope playing on that team with a potential stud added reinvigorates him.

 

[trojanfan12]

His scoring would drop, but why would his FG% or 3 point % go down? Seems reasonable to assume those 2 would make it easier for him. Not harder.

If he's a volume scorer (not sure he is because I haven't seen enough of him), volume shooters tend to need to get into a rhythm to score efficiently. Fewer shots means less opportunity to get into a rhythm. He might start a game 1 for 6, but then he keeps shooting and hits 7 of his next 10. Playing alongside star players would mean less shots to develop that rhythm. Especially when he's also having to depend on them to get him the ball.

 

[trojanfan12]

I've seen worse trade ideas, sure, and also agree no way Cavs' would do it. Not even sure they'd do it to attach Love's contract somehow (would take a lot more from LA to match the salary, as well, I believe).

At the least, the Lakers would probably have to throw in KCP...another player the Cavs wouldn't really need. lol

 

[trojanfan12]

I've seen worse trade ideas, sure, and also agree no way Cavs' would do it. Not even sure they'd do it to attach Love's contract somehow (would take a lot more from LA to match the salary, as well, I believe).

Cannot say I expected it, but Pop seems to think more highly of Love than his critics. No idea what to make of that, but can only hope playing on that team with a potential stud added reinvigorates him.

I tend to agree with Wiggy. It's not like Love has forgotten how to play, he's been injured. If he's healthy, he can definitely help. His passing alone would be a big help. Pretty sure he can probably still shoot some too, since that's a skill that tends to age well.

 

[WiggyRuss]

Hey Kings, what do you think of all this Cavs talk? Can they win another title? Will they ever even compete for another?

well- coming from a team tht had Durant, Harden, Westbrook from the draft and never finished it off- you better hope a team like Cleveland can win it all again. The Bucks seem to be proof of that anyway. Certainly not like the Jazz or Suns or Hawks are huge markets either.

 

[WiggyRuss]

At the least, the Lakers would probably have to throw in KCP...another player the Cavs wouldn't really need. lol

yah thats the thing- the Cavs just dont need anything the Lakers have (beside AD and LeBron of course).

 

[The Q]

yah thats the thing- the Cavs just dont need anything the Lakers have (beside AD and LeBron of course).

just 22 and that 2027 first

that’s really it

 

[WiggyRuss]

Schroder hasn't been on a team that has needed him to score like that. And how much were Lebron and AD there to draw attention away from Schroder?

I'd bet that if Sexton found himself playing alongside Lebron and AD, his stats would drop a bit too.

his ppg might drop- but you would hope his efficiency would go up.

for Sexton to be this efficient, on a team where he is the #1 guy, as a 22 year old -is pretty impressive stuff.


playing around star players means less defensive attention- which means a helluva lot more than the rhythm you get from taking 5 less shots a game. cmon..

 

[dtgold88]

I tend to agree with Wiggy. It's not like Love has forgotten how to play, he's been injured. If he's healthy, he can definitely help. His passing alone would be a big help. Pretty sure he can probably still shoot some too, since that's a skill that tends to age well.

The idea the youngsters don't like him as many report is kooky talk, too. They go out of their way to say glowing things about him and what a big help he is. Sure, it wouldn't be smart to say bad things but they go above and beyond what should be said if just being politically correct. Even refer to him as a HOFer.

 

[tlance]

The idea the youngsters don't like him as many report is kooky talk, too. They go out of their way to say glowing things about him and what a big help he is. Sure, it wouldn't be smart to say bad things but they go above and beyond what should be said if just being politically correct. Even refer to him as a HOFer.

I have no idea how his relationships are with the current players in Cleveland.

But I do know that he was widely disliked by teammates in Minnesota. Apparently he was a pretty major jackass back then.

 

[wildturkey]

 

[msgkings322]

That's an interesting one. I'm fine dealing Wiseman and the pick to win now. The window is only another 2-3 years really.

 

[The Q]

That's an interesting one. I'm fine dealing Wiseman and the pick to win now. The window is only another 2-3 years really.

And siakam keeps you at least playoff relevant even when the title window closes so those picks you still owe aren’t too juicy lol

 

[tlance]

And siakam keeps you at least playoff relevant even when the title window closes so those picks you still owe aren’t too juicy lol

I don’t think he can do that by himself. He is a solid player.