2021 NBA Draft Lottery Predictions

[shopson67]

They already gave up Moses to the Celtics in that deal

Yeah, hence trade one away. Drafting Moody would be bringing another in....right?

 

[thunderc]

what are you giving Houston to not take one of 4 guys better than the top pick last year

All the picks back that they owe us plus some more

 

[WiggyRuss]

Mobley won’t be available at 3, the Thunder will take him at 2.

I pray.

 

[dtgold88]

So easy to be a reporter....just say Cavs "might" trade Sexton, would "consider" trading Sexton, etc and you'll be flooded with clicks.

And, sure, they might and they should listen.

 

[dtgold88]

do you think this is a fair indication that they mean to draft Green or Suggs--- even if Mobley is there?

and again- you really think Houston takes Mobley over Suggs?

my dream scenario is the Cavs get a good wing player and or a pick, etc. for Sexton- they draft Suggs.

PG- Garland
SG- Suggs
SF- Wing Trade, Okoro (hes 20- he will start eventually but itd be nice to bring him off the bench- esp. if the Cavs are trying to win)
PF- Love, Nance
C- Allen

I hope the Cavs sign a Caruso or McConnell type guard if they deal Sexton as well.

rumors of "considering" dealing Sexton doesn't mean much of anything IMO. I think they are taking their BPA no matter what they do with Sexton.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

rumors of "considering" dealing Sexton doesn't mean much of anything IMO. I think they are taking their BPA no matter what they do with Sexton.

I don't feel like Allen's presence should determine anything. But if they got Mobley moving Love or Nance would make sense.

 

[trojanfan12]

I think they are taking their BPA no matter what they do with Sexton.

Yeah, if they go BPA, that will likely determine what they do with Sexton. Or as @Stakesarehigh points out...a couple of their other players.

 

[dtgold88]

I don't feel like Allen's presence should determine anything. But if they got Mobley moving Love or Nance would make sense.

Hard to pay Allen $100 mil+ if they don't think he can be on the court with Mobley, though (isn't to say he cannot..I don't know). Though I guess that does not take away from your comment as maybe taking Mobley just means they try to get a sign/trade with Allen.

Nance can play a number of positions and do a number of things (also pretty cheap) so I don't see them dealing him unless it's part of a deal for someone better. Might try to deal Love regardless but I don't think having Mobley as a center means you need to move him as it's a decent fit...of course that depends - like always - on Love's health.

 

[dtgold88]

Yeah, if they go BPA, that will likely determine what they do with Sexton. Or as @Stakesarehigh points out...a couple of their other players.

They definitely have a ton of options it would seem.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I just hope the Pistons don't overthink this and take anyone but Cade. I know Green has the highest ceiling but Cade is the pick

 

[dtgold88]

I just hope the Pistons don't overthink this and take anyone but Cade. I know Green has the highest ceiling but Cade is the pick

I cannot recall a time there was a guy many were calling a no-brainer #1 that a team passed on. NBA GMs are too afraid to be second guessed.

Not saying it will be Cade but I'd bet someone outside the top 4 (maybe way outside) will be better than one of the top 4 picks. Perhaps a lot better.

 

[trojanfan12]

They definitely have a ton of options it would seem.

Saw an interesting suggestion on FanSided on, I think their "Lake Show Life" section. That had Jarrett Allen to the Lakers in a sign and trade for Schroder (also a S&T), Kuzma and the Lakers #22 pick. Then the Cavs take Mobley with their #3.

Immediate issue I see with it is, why would the Cavs want Kuzma when they already have Nance? I can see why they might consider Mobley, since he's more skilled than Allen. But he's also unproven. Unless Nance has fallen out of favor and they're looking to move him, I don't see why they'd want Kuzma.

Now that I think of it, not sure how much sense Schroder makes either, unless they're moving Sexton.

 

[dtgold88]

Saw an interesting suggestion on FanSided on, I think their "Lake Show Life" section. That had Jarrett Allen to the Lakers in a sign and trade for Schroder (also a S&T), Kuzma and the Lakers #22 pick. Then the Cavs take Mobley with their #3.

Immediate issue I see with it is, why would the Cavs want Kuzma when they already have Nance? I can see why they might consider Mobley, since he's more skilled than Allen. But he's also unproven. Unless Nance has fallen out of favor and they're looking to move him, I don't see why they'd want Kuzma.

Now that I think of it, not sure how much sense Schroder makes either, unless they're moving Sexton.

Yeah I don't get any of it for the Cavs for reasons you gave. Schroder makes no sense IMO. sure he's a couple inches taller than Sexton but also not nearly as good.

Think I agree with wiggy and am hoping Mobley goes #2.

 

[shopson67]

Yeah I don't get any of it for the Cavs for reasons you gave. Schroder makes no sense IMO. sure he's a couple inches taller than Sexton but also not nearly as good.

Think I agree with wiggy and am hoping Mobley goes #2.

The only prayer of that deal happening would be along with a Sexton trade. Even then, the Cavs could just select a guard instead of Mobley instead of the trade.

Even if it did make sense for the Cavs, I don't know that the Lakers can really afford adding someone due a big payday like Allen to a lesser role (3rd at best, likely 4th or 5th offensively).

 

[WiggyRuss]

So easy to be a reporter....just say Cavs "might" trade Sexton, would "consider" trading Sexton, etc and you'll be flooded with clicks.

And, sure, they might and they should listen.

For sure.

I don't want to give up on Sexton- and I hope if they do trade him that they get a package back that has some kind of significant asset- but maybe for the long term it might be the better way to go.

I think a back court of Garland and Suggs/Green would have more size, be better defensively, and give the Cavs a more natural 1 and 2 to work with.

Sexton is a very good NBA player. He is a very hard worker too. His work ethic is incredibly and he seems to be a tough dude. He is both a volume scorer and an efficient scorer- and not many guards his age can both score in volume and stay efficient. Does it make sense to pay him 25 million or so a year though? I dont know.

I think long term a Garland, Suggs, Okoro 1-2-3 would fit very well together. In the next year or two, while those guys continue to develop- they could keep adding wing talent- which they need. Honestly- a Nance/Allen front court is pretty good if you ask me- especially if Nance keeps on developing a decent 3 pt shot and Allen keeps improving.

We will see what Altman is made of. All of a sudden the Cavs have some assets, and a great draft position in a very good draft. He could do all matter of things- trade Sexton, trade Allen - hold onto both.

Want to know my ideal? Somehow trading Sexton to Toronto for Siakam. I saw a trade someone wrote about where it would be Sexton and #3 for Siakam and #4 (and other pieces).

Say Toronto traded up for Suggs- you take Green-

PG- Garland
SG- Green
SF- Okoro
PF- Siakam
C- Allen

now that is a lineup that could grow and do some damage one fine day.

 

[dtgold88]

For sure.

I don't want to give up on Sexton- and I hope if they do trade him that they get a package back that has some kind of significant asset- but maybe for the long term it might be the better way to go.

I think a back court of Garland and Suggs/Green would have more size, be better defensively, and give the Cavs a more natural 1 and 2 to work with.

Sexton is a very good NBA player. He is a very hard worker too. His work ethic is incredibly and he seems to be a tough dude. He is both a volume scorer and an efficient scorer- and not many guards his age can both score in volume and stay efficient. Does it make sense to pay him 25 million or so a year though? I dont know.

I think long term a Garland, Suggs, Okoro 1-2-3 would fit very well together. In the next year or two, while those guys continue to develop- they could keep adding wing talent- which they need. Honestly- a Nance/Allen front court is pretty good if you ask me- especially if Nance keeps on developing a decent 3 pt shot and Allen keeps improving.

We will see what Altman is made of. All of a sudden the Cavs have some assets, and a great draft position in a very good draft. He could do all matter of things- trade Sexton, trade Allen - hold onto both.

Want to know my ideal? Somehow trading Sexton to Toronto for Siakam. I saw a trade someone wrote about where it would be Sexton and #3 for Siakam and #4 (and other pieces).

Say Toronto traded up for Suggs- you take Green-

PG- Garland
SG- Green
SF- Okoro
PF- Siakam
C- Allen

now that is a lineup that could grow and do some damage one fine day.

I really like Sexton, but that "ideal situation" is very intriguing. Would still have Nance and Love (maybe that reinvigorates Love?) as assuming Toronto wouldn't want him. IF they like Green a lot, not sure I'd make the deal unless I know I'm not losing Green by dropping to 4. And, of course, I could see if Toronto wouldn't do it without more going to them.

Sexton being a volume scorer AND efficient is ignored by all his critics. It's always "well anyone can score on a bad team". First, that is just not true as a lot of bad teams and not a lot of 24+ ppg scoring guards. Never mind adding in hitting 47-47% overall and 37-38% from 3 and the list shrinks even more.

Have heard them say "well, we have not won with him". Also absurd. By that "logic" you certainly wouldn;t want a guy who was 21-61 in year 3 then regressed to 19-63 year 4. That guy was Booker.

I'm not saying Sexton is or will be as good as Booker, Mitchell or Young (he could be)......but those 3 play more like Sexton's critics accuse Sexton of playing. Shoot too much, hold ball too much, too many TOs, etc. Booker is 18-59 shooting with 10 assists and 17 TOs. his last 3 games. ............Young finally had an efficient shooting game in Game 1, but in Game 7 last series and Game 2 this one he was 11-39 with 13 assists and 15 TOs (his teammates carried him to the Game 7 win). .............Mitchell was 27-72 in games 4-6 as his team went down the crapper.

All that said, sure, if they feel the best move is deal him and it makes us better then have at it.

 

[Shanemansj13]

Yeah I don't get any of it for the Cavs for reasons you gave. Schroder makes no sense IMO. sure he's a couple inches taller than Sexton but also not nearly as good.

Think I agree with wiggy and am hoping Mobley goes #2.

If anything Sexton would be included in that trade or another trade. Suggs would be the guy that makes a lot of sense for the Cavs. If this trade were to happen as laid out, then you have Schroder, Garland and Suggs as their guard trio. Kuzma would be a bench guy behind Nance, Love and Okoro. I feel like getting Suggs in this draft would be great if they could move Sexton, Suggs is a true combo guard that would fit better along Garland imo

 

[The Q]

If anything Sexton would be included in that trade or another trade. Suggs would be the guy that makes a lot of sense for the Cavs. If this trade were to happen as laid out, then you have Schroder, Garland and Suggs as their guard trio. Kuzma would be a bench guy behind Nance, Love and Okoro. I feel like getting Suggs in this draft would be great if they could move Sexton, Suggs is a true combo guard that would fit better along Garland imo

its a weird spot for CLE to be in, but worth the extra effort to make it work.

it might be easier to sign and trade Allen though.

but I get this school of thought as well.

 

[thunderc]

At least you had fun

Hey Kings, what do you think of all this Cavs talk? Can they win another title? Will they ever even compete for another?

 

[msgkings322]

Hey Kings, what do you think of all this Cavs talk? Can they win another title? Will they ever even compete for another?

No doubt....they are so close. If they deal Sexton and draft well they are only like 4 years away from being the 7th seed.